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00:00:05in the end, I connect much more with girls than with boys, and he is
00:00:09heterosexual, so of course, people are surprised and say, "Look how smart he is, look at
00:00:12her, poor thing, she has to accept that even if she likes boys, she has
00:00:16to accept that she can only be with a boy if that's really our common point and where
00:00:20I imagine a life at home with no, what
00:00:23do you say, with me and two children, that's enough, that's out."
00:00:27We have two children, eh, the older one who is 3
00:00:31years old is called Eiden, and the younger one who will be 7 months old, eh,
00:00:50and, and what will you tell the children when they grow up or
00:00:53what? We'll treat it normally, like, like,
00:00:57I don't know, as if it were a normal couple, well, your mother. and your
00:01:00father, I don't know how, yes, her,
00:01:03yes, it's like the children who have two mothers or
00:01:07two fathers or what
00:01:12couple is the basis of do I know.
00:01:15Until now, the two experiences we've had have
00:01:18been very much eh of discovery, both for us and
00:01:22for the other person, I say that they are like the
00:01:25practices of polyamory, and there comes a moment when
00:01:28you say, "Oh, you know, we can't." Yes, well,
00:01:32someone who already has a little bit of
00:01:35experience, who knows how to manage it, or who knows what they want, a
00:01:39girl appeared and then I told Pau, "Dude,
00:01:43tell her." Be with
00:01:45us or no one. I remember one day he told
00:01:49me, "He says, 'Oh, I cook super well, I don't know what, I don't know
00:01:52how many, I'll make you a container.'" "Well, we'll
00:01:55eat it."
00:01:58No, because of course, in the end, when we talk,
00:02:00the girl told him, "No, no, no, if I make you the container, it's only for you, Gesti
00:02:04doesn't eat," eh, and I already thought, "Well, this one wants to take away my
00:02:08almonds, my lands, but where did this girl
00:02:11come from?" So, and he stayed with the girl from the
00:02:14container, yes, we've made some videos on TikTok about the
00:02:17container thing, there are many people who have been following us
00:02:20since then.
00:03:00a person who joins the couple is so mystical
00:03:04or so that it is not easy, so it is like
00:03:07finding a unicorn. People immediately see it as the jewel of the
00:03:11couple, you know, they see it as a complement, that's it, and really for us,
00:03:15once it forms the triad, it's
00:03:18like everyone is equal in hierarchy, so
00:03:22everyone is equal, looking for
00:03:30if we broke up,
00:03:33would you still be
00:03:36polyamorous?" Of course, I've already found my
00:03:40way of relating, the way I want to live,
00:03:43whether you're there or not.
00:04:18is created with communication, with
00:04:33we are waiting for the moment
00:04:47look at me, I'm falling for you, you
00:05:00he's my boyfriend and this is Llorenç, he's also my
00:05:03boyfriend, well, before I used to sleep one night with
00:05:06each of them, I would rotate because there was only one
00:05:10room for each of them, not them, I, I didn't... I had a room and
00:05:14now, since Lluri works three days in the morning and three in the
00:05:17afternoon, I sleep with him the three days he works in the afternoon
00:05:20and the three days he works in the morning, at the moment, it's cold. In terms of polyamory,
00:05:24a V-shape would be when a person
00:05:28has two relationships, but these people
00:05:31with whom they have relationships don't have relationships with each other,
00:05:35so it's not a triangle, but rather only one part, it's the V-
00:05:39shape.
00:05:50People didn't give us much credibility and
00:05:54they said, "Well, this will end in a few months." This has been going on for
00:05:577 years, the three of us. I mean, 11 with him and 7 with him when
00:06:01I met Alfredo, who at
00:06:03first started a monogamous relationship. Lluri
00:06:07also arrived and, well,
00:06:09it was love at first sight.
00:06:19And I started talking to Alfredo about it, saying, "Look, I really like
00:06:22this, this has never happened to me before,
00:06:25but I'm very clear that I didn't want to leave him either,
00:06:29because I was also very much in love with him." It's true that at first you
00:06:32might have those moments of jealousy when you
00:06:35might see them give each other a kiss or whatever,
00:06:38and so on, but well, in principle.
00:06:42At the beginning we didn't kiss, I remember taking Joel to the
00:06:46kitchen and saying, "I'm going for Coca-Cola," and Joel would come, it was like a quick
00:06:49kiss and they would stop, they would stop
00:06:52so that I wouldn't, but really in a short time it's
00:06:56something we've internalized a lot and it has become something
00:06:59that there's no problem with showing
00:07:03affection between us or anything like that, and well, sometimes
00:07:06you've sent us to a hotel, go to a hotel, but
00:07:10well, just kidding.
00:07:17it has greatly facilitated the situation that those two
00:07:21had no problem sharing an apartment also, because at the time of living
00:07:24as three, it's already more like a
00:07:26family.
00:07:40everywhere together, but it's true that I prefer
00:07:50the three of us, first because the expenses are divided by three, second
00:07:54because you have guaranteed fun because you can always
00:07:58talk to one.
00:08:01How well you must have it, like any couple, in the end we are at
00:08:05home watching TV, we are not having
00:08:08sex all the time, I mean, no, there are people who tell us no.
00:08:42Yes, there is the possibility, isn't there, that if someone meets someone and falls in love, which has
00:08:46also happened, no, for example, I have already settled down, no,
00:08:50here with two people, I'm already fine, but for me, the action is not
00:08:53that it's very cumbersome for
00:08:56me to fall in love, eh, to share time, it's just too many new things,
00:09:00it's like saying, yes, I could change jobs, but I'm fine as
00:09:03I
00:09:05am.
00:09:19that I've put on that are very
00:09:22good. Normally, whenever I can, I
00:09:26bring him something or tell him to come and
00:09:28take it.
00:09:34Hello, Karim, look what I brought you. Oh, what
00:09:37is it? Stew. How
00:09:40are you? This is
00:10:25"I'll take the bag,
00:10:28I've always told you, you do whatever you want and the door is always open
00:10:31to you, no matter what happens."
00:10:35Unconditionally.
00:10:40The Moca was the first common project of the
00:10:44three of us as a family, so to speak. Always the
00:10:48joke that the two dogs moved
00:10:52into the house at the same time. I mean,
00:11:05maybe we can't get married like other people or maybe we have more difficulties
00:11:09adopting children if we ever want to adopt,
00:11:12but we can do many other things and I have projects.
00:11:25We must continue to think that a large part of the
00:11:29amorous formulas that exist
00:11:32are based on the fact that the
00:11:37reproduction. Of course, and then we think that the
00:11:39couple system has been
00:11:43transforming and evolving, but also because to a large
00:11:46extent, the reproductive formulas have also been
00:11:50changing. That is, before, you could only reproduce
00:11:54by having a partner. Nowadays, you
00:11:57can have children without needing to have a partner, eh,
00:12:01you can have children eh, from a donor, eh, there are
00:12:04double donors, there are surrogate mothers, there are
00:12:08homosexual couples who can also have children, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, and
00:12:12therefore this is also an element that must be taken into account to
00:12:15understand and explain how the traditional,
00:12:19classic, monogamous couple, eh, has
00:12:23transformed because its main function has also, in some
00:12:27way, diversified.
00:12:43I had a relationship with Ana and I had a relationship
00:12:47with Jessi. Wait,
00:12:50you're doing it backwards. Yes, yes, yes.
00:12:57I am Ana, I am Jessie, I am Olga and
00:13:01we are a throuple. It's recording
00:13:03all of them. Okay, let's see, the
00:13:06relationship that arises between the three,
00:13:10let's say, at first was a
00:13:13V-shape, which was me in this case, who had a
00:13:16relationship with Ana and another relationship with
00:13:19Jessi, but between the two of them there was
00:13:23no relationship at all. In time, this
00:13:27changed because in time, a series of feelings
00:13:30also began to exist between them,
00:13:34which, well, that this V-shape
00:13:37really began to be a throuple.
00:13:56And why do I like this so much? Okay, we upload it.
00:14:00Polyamory,
00:14:04throuple.
00:14:04Well, from my
00:14:13heterosexual relationship that
00:14:17I had,
00:14:19we had two children, a girl who is now 24 years old
00:14:23and a boy who is... 21 years old. They are my children with one of the
00:14:27heterosexual relationships I had. I had a
00:14:30son who is now 12 years old. Well, I have their children
00:14:33now.
00:14:36Really, it would be that and together Ana and I have the
00:14:40three-year-old girl and all together, we are seven, we form a big
00:14:43family.
00:14:51Yes, because that's what you know, eh,
00:14:58to be able to have a child. I would also like to be a mother.
00:15:14He signed up for Tira Marco with me and I
00:15:17suppose I started to blossom
00:15:20a feeling, I think I fell in love with them
00:15:23and they talked and it was reciprocal. So, what do we do
00:15:26now, what do we do if society says I have to choose
00:15:30one or the other? I considered, well,
00:15:34that I had to separate from Ana.
00:15:39And this process of trying
00:15:42to separate was difficult, we had a bad time,
00:15:45I thought: "Will it be possible to love two people at
00:15:48once?"
00:15:51That's when we started a search to see if there were
00:15:54people who experienced the same thing, and so on, well, we saw that
00:15:58yes, we said, "What do we do?
00:16:00Let's try it." We've been here for almost
00:16:04two years now. So, of course, I found that
00:16:08she was a person who had a partner who they had been together for six years, they had four
00:16:11children, so I also had to add all this information
00:16:15into my head, that I had to share not only the relationship but
00:16:19also children. But I think it has all happened naturally, no,
00:16:23in the end it has been easier than I expected.
00:16:36Anyway. Two trips, one with Ana
00:16:39and me and the other with Olga and Ana. The next
00:16:43trip will be with Olga and me, so we'll do
00:16:46one each, let's say, we'll repeat twice, not
00:16:49too much. So it's a way to grow
00:16:53between us as bonds. When they left,
00:16:55I stayed at home, but I was super
00:16:58happy to see the photos
00:17:00and hear their
00:17:03laughter. I was ecstatic, I didn't feel
00:17:07jealous, no, no, I was very happy.
00:17:21Sleeping together, eh, the first time felt a bit
00:17:25strange, you know, to say, we took a photo,
00:17:27everything. Olga and I had a 1.50
00:17:31meter bed, so when
00:17:34the relationship with Jessi started,
00:17:38they were having a bit of a hard time, we decided to change the room, take advantage and change the bed
00:17:42and we put this one which is two by two. We changed the whole
00:17:46room, the three comfortable so that each one has their
00:17:49own comfortable and their drawers. The problem is we haven't found any solutions
00:17:53here.
00:17:56My mother, when she sees it, I don't know how she's going to take it.
00:18:00The parents didn't want to meet her, they didn't want
00:18:03to meet her and all the fear was that we wanted...
00:18:07Ana and I. I thought I wouldn't lose
00:18:10Ana. Finally, they
00:18:14took the step, they met her and they saw the opposite. Now they are
00:18:17delighted. Many times they say, "What luck you are
00:18:21three, you can do it, you can
00:18:24combine." The only person
00:18:26who
00:18:29could hurt me the most was my daughter, my eldest
00:18:33daughter.
00:18:35It didn't make me very happy, neither... They wanted to understand it, but in the
00:18:39end, you realize that you leave your mother's
00:18:43house, your family, your mothers
00:18:45do and undo what they want and that they have to be happy, just as I can
00:18:49live my life independently of what
00:18:53others believe. So if they are happy, I'm fine, who am I to
00:18:57tell them anything? They are my mothers and I consider that it is the
00:19:00partner of my
00:19:02mothers.
00:19:15Yes.
00:19:22Yes, I think Martina is the one who has seen it as more natural, but she has seen it since she was younger.
00:19:37Let's situate ourselves, it's not mommy, mommy, the mamacita as a joke,
00:19:41but it's true that Martina has made her the mamacita, not as you
00:19:45say "mami", "mami"? And who
00:19:48am I? The mommy, her? And what
00:19:59well, eh, I say
00:20:02I have three mothers and
00:20:05we walk with our heads held high, it's not a...
00:20:15But you can make your moves, right? For three, like you used to
00:20:19go to Cocoa, no, mom would ask for 3 euros, you three
00:20:24are
00:20:29of course, legally it's not recognized to be a throuple, eh?
00:20:32The issue is that at the level of raising children, what matters most is the day-to-day
00:20:36and the involvement that
00:20:42we have created a family, this cannot be
00:20:45broken just because the law says certain
00:20:47things.
00:21:23I am Jesus and together we form a
00:21:26triad and a game of Lego are pieces of Lego
00:21:30that can be changed, that are movable and that are
00:21:34equal and flexible and adaptable. When I met
00:21:37Iris, well, for the first four years it was also a
00:21:41monogamous relationship and then due to circumstances
00:21:45we opened the couple, until Jesus
00:21:48arrived, who is the person who at this moment is
00:21:52forming the important bond, no, of what
00:21:56is now the triad, which
00:21:59began with a relationship between Iris and
00:22:02Jesus.
00:22:08The three of them for a socio-affective relationship among themselves. Clear, because more than a relationship, what
00:22:11I wanted was to throw him off a cliff. So it was very
00:22:15difficult to have a relationship when you have
00:22:18these thoughts. I mean, and I dreamed of
00:22:21cliffs, of taking him one day to Jesus, we're going to
00:22:25Cantabria and such, and at that moment, "Oh, look what
00:22:29happened," you know, I mean, some very terrible thoughts came to me,
00:22:32no, it awakened a very, very, very horrible part in
00:22:36me, but with time, with time, this
00:22:40began to change because I said, "Well, he's a good guy, eh? He's so
00:22:43good with Iris, he's a good guy, he's, he's, I like him, and
00:22:47he bakes cakes that are great." Cakes and
00:22:50oh, they are so good, and then everything
00:22:53started to change and until one day my
00:22:57head exploded, no, because because I was already feeling
00:23:01things. I've been heterosexual all my life, totally hetero, hetero,
00:23:05but hetero, hetero, eh, wow, I really like women and
00:23:08I had never considered that a
00:23:12person who was not a
00:23:15woman could attract me and
00:23:18and so... well, one day something
00:23:22happened and we ended up all three together
00:23:25at home, and I even
00:23:27liked it.
00:23:34The arguments of the
00:23:36little one.
00:23:39There are many other sexual identities that are between being a man
00:23:43and being a woman. Right now, I don't define my
00:23:46sexual orientation, I simply like people and...
00:24:09It's that you can have a relationship and meet a person with whom you have a sexual
00:24:13attraction and you have a beautiful connection and
00:24:16perhaps, for however long it lasts, you want to enjoy that connection that there
00:24:20is, whatever it may be. So, we currently have a relationship of, I have it with
00:24:24Yauma, eh, I have it with Jesus,
00:24:27eh, we have it all three of us, they two together and then each one
00:24:31with himself and then also Jesus is meeting other people,
00:24:35Yauma too, I, well, right now I'm more
00:24:38focused on the two of them because right now I can't handle meeting more
00:24:42people, so things are happening, I mean,
00:24:45there are more connections.
00:25:01Of course, in monogamy, what provides security is structure, but
00:25:04actually, eh, security
00:25:08talking, with sharing. Here, there is no
00:25:12fixed structure, it's movable,
00:25:15so there is no security there, so you have to talk much more, you have to
00:25:18share much more.
00:25:22For me, polyamory , well understood, which also has
00:25:25many interpretations, is this: all relationships
00:25:28must be at the same level, taking care of
00:25:32friends, taking care of partners,
00:25:35taking care of thousands of laughter
00:25:38and from heaven it makes caunas
00:25:41two, for each moment you return to
00:25:44live, it says that it transports you to another
00:25:48planet.
00:26:02The throuple, no, but it's not that, it's not about that,
00:26:06finally, for once, it's being shown that
00:26:09people with a university can also be
00:26:12desired, we can also desire, that is
00:26:15fundamental, it's that here we kill both
00:26:18men, we will give it to the, to the, to the grandmas, we will give
00:26:21it to them for gosh.
00:26:24Gosh.
00:26:36I really like Jauma, he's a very
00:26:40mm, how can I put it, he's a precious man, I
00:26:44think he has a beautiful body, and he also has a
00:26:47huge heart, eh, he's very
00:26:50seductive. Now you can publicly acknowledge that in reality
00:26:53you also used her to get to me.
00:26:56That's good, you know that, right?
00:27:01I can now say that I no
00:27:04longer want to throw you off a cliff, as I felt at
00:27:07the beginning. Now I want to share the views from the
00:27:11cliff with you. As Antonio Machín said, "How can I love more than one
00:27:14woman and not be crazy?" That was many years ago, but he was the first, for me
00:27:18Antonio Machín was the first polyamorous person there was, and he didn't even
00:27:21know it.
00:27:31And not be crazy.
00:27:38I prefer that, it's such a strange conversation,
00:27:41okay, you're complicating things, so go on, do
00:27:45it yourself this time, hello, I'm Mihai,
00:27:48this is Tiffany, and I think, I hope we're
00:27:52trying to make relational
00:27:55anarchy together and with everyone in our
00:27:58lives. Australia when I was 25 years old.
00:28:02I've been living in Norway on and off for about 10 years, I had my
00:28:06son when I was 28 and when
00:28:09I turned 29 we moved to Japan,
00:28:13I wanted the best for my son, so I decided to go back to
00:28:16Norway, and while I was there I
00:28:19met a Catalan boy online and we came to
00:28:23live here in
00:28:24Granollers.
00:28:39I'll turn 45 and my sexual relationships will end,
00:28:41that's it, this thought scared me a little.
00:28:45I realized that our relationship
00:28:48was ending and I
00:28:50proposed to open it.
00:28:53I think it's incredibly
00:28:56hard, many people say that wanting to open the relationship to save it is
00:29:00a big mistake, we... We made all the
00:29:03possible mistakes,
00:29:06it's great, you learn very quickly, my
00:29:10ex-partner Albert dove into it and had a lot of practical
00:29:14experience, I got very scared, we
00:29:18had no idea what we were doing, to be honest. Now
00:29:22it's been four years since Albert and I don't have a
00:29:25romantic or sexual relationship,
00:29:29we live together and raise our daughter.
00:29:33We're together now, we have two
00:29:36cats, we're like roommates,
00:29:39he has a relationship outside our
00:29:42family unit,
00:29:45and I also have
00:29:48another one. I am originally from Romania,
00:29:52from Transylvania in the north, now close to the war, in fact,
00:29:55and I was traveling through Europe. I liked Barcelona also for
00:29:59many things, but... I love the
00:30:02politics, I love that
00:30:05people still have hope of being able to change things. I come from
00:30:09Romania, a post-communist
00:30:12country. I don't know how, I don't remember, I discovered the
00:30:15word Polyamory, I said, "Wow, there are other
00:30:19people who not only think like that, but live it
00:30:22and they have a culture, they have
00:30:25words, they have the book, voila, yes,
00:30:28like that, honestly I felt sick,
00:30:32psychiatrically, that I couldn't commit
00:30:36enough, but then reading more and getting more into the
00:30:40community, saying no, it's an option. I will say that the
00:30:43orientation is curious,
00:30:46perhaps, I love to explore. I had
00:30:49quite a few experiences with men, but
00:30:52the attraction in general doesn't come from the men's side,
00:30:55so for me the attraction to Tiffany is the thought, it's...