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00:00:01of 75 billion n that you saved that you could have
00:00:04used to build roads
00:00:05in to build roads, it's like a man that is is
00:00:09boosting that you know have 500 million my account
00:00:13and then your children are hungry, the school fees are not paid services are
00:00:17not rend electric is not available then
00:00:20in you in say oh
00:00:20of i have 500 million so i think that
00:00:24you see politicians largely there are the people that are different
00:00:28but it's always good for people to be very honest, what i've seen here
00:00:32is inconsistency, case of dishonest, even the figures are not
00:00:35consistent, they are not
00:00:36of consistent, and people should not underestimate
00:00:40intelligence of nigerians, we may not bother
00:00:44about the you know social media crowd that even when you come with
00:00:48facts, they are still ready not to disbelieve you, those ones are always
00:00:51there, but there are intelligent people, yeah, and anabra is a state of very
00:00:55intelligent people, very educated people, highly civilized,
00:00:59so you can't... take them
00:01:00of for for ride, for ride, yeah, i also think it's not a good thing that
00:01:04the charity in this case is not beginning at all, if you are content for
00:01:08the president
00:01:10of of the country and your state, the principalities and powers, political powers there, you
00:01:14know, you are not, you are loger with them, yeah, i think it's not always a good
00:01:18thing to affect the you know future plan of your
00:01:21electoral calculation, perhaps you've heard about
00:01:26of the the the talk concerning uh buying a car
00:01:30he he was
00:01:30of supposed to have bought money was voted yeah, but he
00:01:34elected to go
00:01:35of for poser type and and all that and the
00:01:39disparity in the figures, yeah, and we we when he was governor,
00:01:43mean we saw the
00:01:44of convoy, of
00:01:45you know, he was not living in his private house, he was living in government
00:01:49of house, probably could have you know left hand then h the
00:01:52so i think all these things just came around 2023
00:01:55of you know they attempt to give the impression that no we have a
00:01:59puritan uh yes,
00:02:00of impression, yeah, for when he left in March 2014, I
00:02:04think, for about nine years, nobody had about him, yes,
00:02:08no inspiring elector delivered anywhere either locally or abroad, no
00:02:11participation
00:02:12in any pro-democracy movement, no agitation for
00:02:16of researchuring, the only came about four months
00:02:19of before 2023 election, so it's
00:02:21a an adock president
00:02:23of candidate, that just try to package to give the impression that to delude
00:02:26Nigerians, so um, it's an infrusment of...
00:02:30illusion that uh, it's
00:02:32of different,
00:02:32of and we could see also what has happened in his party, you know,
00:02:36in look at people that you know join labor
00:02:39party, see how they have the camp from the
00:02:42a national, from national assembly to the APC, you could not hold them
00:02:46together, hold the party
00:02:47a together, we don't hold the party together, you have to move
00:02:49together, he is been posturing like
00:02:53somebody who does not like death, does not like borrowing and all that, but
00:02:57these revelations are showing us that he
00:03:00of is the opposite of what he he
00:03:03is claims, he claims, because if they are saying
00:03:07that um, it took loans for
00:03:11malaria, erosion control, education, health care,
00:03:14of etc., you know, and that the current government was paying
00:03:18hundreds of millions of naira every month to service those
00:03:21debts, so if you are somebody who
00:03:25took loans and
00:03:29today you postering like somebody who does not like borrowing, who
00:03:33does not uh uh believe in debt
00:03:36and all that, which this government, this government
00:03:39is taking loans here and there,
00:03:43but you are not morally
00:03:47in a strong position to condemn them for
00:03:51taking those loans when even you you
00:03:55took loans and if you were, i think the the even the
00:03:58evidence that they brought. was look,
00:04:01if you are saying you didn't owe
00:04:04anyone, and there's a video of
00:04:08workers protesting, they even went
00:04:12to
00:04:13of court to get you to pay them, the
00:04:16of court granted the reliefs that they sort that you should go
00:04:20and pay, which he
00:04:24didn't, so you can that kind of person cannot
00:04:28come and say he's not owing anybody. No, if you left this
00:04:33of death, and the DMO is in position to to to to
00:04:37explain to Nigerian that this is the situation, so it's
00:04:41difficult for me to believe that ano will say the same
00:04:45thing, and this person will come and say the same, and
00:04:47thankfully, because the internet does not
00:04:51lie, you saw the quotation
00:04:55from ume, yeah, who is probably the closest politician to him
00:04:59today, um, also dismissing
00:05:02the claim of leaving uh 75
00:05:06billion behind and the man
00:05:09is talking about some of '
00:05:13the the uh death that he left behind for the state,
00:05:16women may not be able to talk like that today because they are now very
00:05:20chumy, but what he said back then is on
00:05:24record, yeah which he cannot - he cannot deny, he can't
00:05:28blot it out, so i
00:05:32just think that
00:05:36um leaders have to be really really
00:05:39accountable and he who comes to...
00:05:42equity must come with clean hands, i don't
00:05:46think it was necessary for him to come out and say, oh, if you can
00:05:50find anybody are we, i will quit, no, there's no governor
00:05:54in Nigeria who can do that, there's no governor who will be leaving
00:05:58office who will not leave some liabilities
00:06:01behind, and there's no point, if you you are struggling
00:06:05to mention places where you build schools and all that, and you
00:06:08are leaving money behind,
00:06:12you you you you you couldn't pay even the minimum
00:06:16wage of 18,000 at
00:06:20the time, yes, you couldn't pay
00:06:23commerce, the
00:06:27salary structure for doctors,
00:06:30okay, but you can gather money and leave money and
00:06:34say, okay, this is what you have left behind, when the our roads to be fixed that you
00:06:38didn't fix, when the our
00:06:41schools. to be built that you didn't build, when you are health
00:06:45institutions that you needed to to to to to make
00:06:49much better, I don't see any achievement in
00:06:53keeping money when infrastructure suffers, what
00:06:57is the point in doing that?
00:06:59infrastructure, when we reflect infrastructure, it helps
00:07:03even the economy to grow, okay,
00:07:07yeah, it was Obama who said we
00:07:11are going to spend ourselves. out of recession and what it meant
00:07:14was that they will turn America to huge construction site, there will be
00:07:18infrastructure projects here and there and people will be gamefully employed
00:07:22in the process, so that's what it
00:07:25meant that that we will spend ourselves out of
00:07:29recession, yeah, so there's
00:07:31no it's clear lack of foresight to
00:07:35just gather money, put money somewhere and you
00:07:39say you have left money behind, meanwile you left lot of work. done, you
00:07:43left bills unpaid, you left loans on
00:07:46serviced, come on, okay, people will
00:07:49say it's politics, yeah, it's um,
00:07:53but we should be aware that once
00:07:57you have spoken a word, there's record and
00:08:01people will use what you have said against you, so we need to be very careful
00:08:05about what we say, about what we do, yeah, people are watching, no matter how think
00:08:09you can hide yourself, people will still get to know the truth,
00:08:13so we man now what he said
00:08:17back then we can quote what he said back th
00:08:21uh today cannot repeat the same thing but it's on record
00:08:24that he said so all right um journalist
00:08:28hangout has one particular way
00:08:31of reacting to this the coming days will be very interesting
00:08:35indeed yes yeah and they are warning that if it does
00:08:39not stop that they are going to bring more evidence oh boy
00:08:43all but he's already rejected those claims, he said his
00:08:46administration left uh
00:08:50healthy um this thing account account
00:08:54balance for the state and that uh the claims that these people are
00:08:58making are completely false okay
00:09:02well it took so long before even that response
00:09:05came it took so long before the
00:09:09response he has to think deeply so... has to think
00:09:13deeply. okay folks, let's take on our next story.
00:09:17you now to say there that there is a stuggering humanitarian
00:09:20crisis in the northeast zone is a gross
00:09:24understatement. both governor Babagana Zulum and
00:09:28the international committee the Red Cross (ICRC) have
00:09:31highlighted the overwhelming philanthropic crisis in the
00:09:35northeast zone. to put figures to this, there
00:09:39situation, no less than 5000.
00:09:42schools have been sacked in addition to
00:09:462.2 million children listed as being out of
00:09:50school and no less than 17 thousand people
00:09:53still missing. the state government is investing
00:09:57heavily in reconstruction of more than 136
00:10:01education infrastructure, even as dislocated groups
00:10:05attempt to get reunited with families by taking
00:10:08advantage of tool-free networks coordinated by the...
00:10:12across, this is Share
00:10:14Bed L, this
00:10:17is very party story, yeah,
00:10:20about no state, it wants
00:10:24beautiful. and very peaceful, one the most peaceful
00:10:27uh states in the country uh, to destroy 5000
00:10:31school structures, that's a lot,
00:10:35look at the cost,
00:10:37you know, the people that have been displaced, the
00:10:40psychological and emotional depression,
00:10:43a community,
00:10:45a society where interest in education
00:10:48as the
00:10:49you know declines especially for female, so I think Boko Haram has
00:10:53brought... evil you know in this
00:10:57hemisphere, but I think
00:11:01that
00:11:01in the face these challenges, the
00:11:04governor is really giving us
00:11:07hope, he's giving hope to lot of people in
00:11:11state, you can see the mega school that he
00:11:14built, the 104 mega schools across
00:11:1727 local governments, you can see the vocational integration
00:11:21colleges, recruitment of over 4,00 teachers. you
00:11:25know provision of uh transportation and i think the
00:11:29out of school children that used to be about 2.2 million
00:11:33as declined
00:11:36you know greatly under Zulum's
00:11:39leadership. I'm glad about his statement
00:11:43because it's honest about what has happened in his state and his
00:11:46challenges, it's not a pretender,
00:11:49you know, but I think is somebody that has to be commended
00:11:53for being tough. for
00:11:55getting for for keeping, mean for it keeps
00:11:59on going even when the situation is very tough, keep hope alive here, it's
00:12:03a source of inspiration to
00:12:07um to nigerians and to people of bonus that in spite of all the
00:12:11challenges, you know the governor is one the best in this
00:12:15country, he's trying very hard you know even with limited
00:12:18resources to overwhelm terrorism, to defeat
00:12:22terrorism, bok is not only. distructive in Boron state also in yobe
00:12:26state you know they have burned so many schools, they have killed so many people,
00:12:30that was a particular instance that they went to secondary school
00:12:33you know in the night where
00:12:34the children were sleeping and shot people through
00:12:37bombs, so
00:12:41um I can only wish the governor well and that Nigerian
00:12:45should continue to encourage him, is one the finest things that has
00:12:49ever come out of that hemisphere, yeah and I believe at the
00:12:52fullness of time um... he represent light and he will
00:12:56defeat darkness that we certainly wish him god
00:13:00speed yeah yeah i
00:13:03think that when we look
00:13:06at um the
00:13:10problems that the governor
00:13:12inherited we would not have expected
00:13:16that we will have achieved this much yeah
00:13:20but he is people focused person
00:13:23maybe because the circumstances of his
00:13:27own um b is
00:13:31upbringing, he is very much
00:13:35concerned about the welfare of people,
00:13:38because everything it does, it
00:13:42prioritizes the welfare of people,
00:13:45and zulum can stand for
00:13:48hours personally distributing
00:13:52relief yards of cotting and food. to people and
00:13:56money, i've seen him in such situations, look at the
00:13:59bicycles that talk about earlier, okay, that
00:14:02even secondary school students are given
00:14:06bicycles to take to school, no, you know, in the
00:14:10UK, that happens to, oh yeah, in street corners, they put,
00:14:14they put bicycle, yes, you come and rent that
00:14:18bicycle, you can go to, that's it, so that's even encouraging
00:14:21people to be able to do exercise, to
00:14:25decongest the roads in China to everybody just
00:14:29using vehicles, you can actually ride to work,
00:14:33so is he has spent
00:14:3646.98 billion
00:14:40between 2025 and
00:14:422026 on basic and secondary
00:14:45education, the best schools in terms of
00:14:49structure born found, state,
00:14:52they okay, are you said so you see. how beautiful those schools
00:14:56are, you would think some them are even senate buildings
00:15:00of universities, and the inside of those
00:15:04schools are very
00:15:07beautiful, the the they have chillers and other
00:15:11so that as hot as the weather is, children will feel
00:15:15encouraged to come to class, to come to class, yeah,
00:15:18so the governor
00:15:21um is very aggressive, is
00:15:25courageous, even sometimes when they tell him don't go to this place, he
00:15:29wants to go there, even in some dangerous parts of
00:15:33bno south, this governor is planting
00:15:35projects, planting projects in those because he's
00:15:39committed and he wants to leave a lasting
00:15:43legacy, that's it in this state, so
00:15:47I know that evil will not trium over
00:15:51good, good, yeah, an environment like if you
00:15:54recall how terrible things were around
00:15:582014, you appreciate the
00:16:02progress that has been made, and you are driving through
00:16:05Bono, Madugure roads now. "the roads are wide and the roads are
00:16:09smooth, despite the fact that that flooding that happened, you
00:16:13know, when that damn broke okay, yeah, and the
00:16:17the state capital was submerged, you know the roads were then
00:16:21destroyed, if you go to bonu to within
00:16:24a couple of months he had fixed all those roads
00:16:28and this guy, how does he managed to do
00:16:32it, in every
00:16:35faceset of life?" you will feel h impact,
00:16:39whether it's agriculture, you feel his
00:16:42impact, and i believe
00:16:45that the bon um
00:16:49civilian gtf is what as convinced many
00:16:53states that state police can work, because the bnum
00:16:57people came up with a law to support state to support
00:17:01civilian jtf
00:17:02all right, it's a creation the law in their state and they are giving
00:17:06tremendous support to the... forces,
00:17:10those guys sacrifice their lives, hundreds them have been
00:17:13killed, but the state has kept them
00:17:17going, he also has agro
00:17:21rangers who protect
00:17:24farmers on their farms, oh really, yes, they
00:17:28are armed, they protect farmers, that's the only way the
00:17:32agri production can improve,
00:17:35can thrive, yeah, there are still... areas
00:17:38where so much work need to be done, especially
00:17:42in b north, where Boko Haram
00:17:46C retains some presence,
00:17:50some parts of dambu are local government, okay, which is the
00:17:53biggest local government in
00:17:55that state and one the biggest in Nigeria,
00:17:59Boko Haram, because that place
00:18:00is close to Sambisa, Boku Haram is very
00:18:04active in that area. and they
00:18:08make the use the
00:18:11dambua bu highway extremely
00:18:15dangerous, so people have to first travel
00:18:18to Adam state to
00:18:21come into b south, i
00:18:25believe that we have to find a way to solve that problem, people
00:18:29shouldn't travel that long distance just to be able
00:18:33to get to a part of b state, but it's because insecurity.
00:18:37Yeah, yeah, even army convoys are usually attacked
00:18:41along that road, so nobody wants to go through that road, but
00:18:45generally security has improved in
00:18:49Bowen state and lot of it is down to the
00:18:53efforts of this governor, it's always going to the arm forces to
00:18:57encourage them, when I saw him
00:19:00and malamfatori the other day, yeah, I said uh,
00:19:04yes, this are really getting better and... and is
00:19:08relocating is building house housing is doing housing projects
00:19:11relocate people to the ancestral homes to encourage
00:19:15them sometimes those people get killed oh yeah as soon
00:19:19as they are relocated
00:19:21the these boys go there to kill people but the governor is determined that
00:19:25look I don't want anybody to remain in IDP
00:19:29camp I would rather resettle people in their
00:19:33ancestral homes because idb
00:19:36comes there is not sustainable, those people prefer
00:19:40to work and feed themselves than
00:19:44rely on handouts from government,
00:19:48so is um, all these people that you are
00:19:51seen, yeah, is going to distribute food
00:19:55packs and money to them, that's the kind
00:19:59of work that is, he somebody that has done
00:20:03so much, so much, the people, they are concerned now, who
00:20:07will replace this person? oh yeah, because it's not
00:20:10every time that you find a governor, this
00:20:14hardwing, this committed, it's
00:20:17not the time okay, well
00:20:21what's uh paradoxical to me is
00:20:24that here is a boko haram, people who
00:20:28are avowed to uh post to western
00:20:32education, but they use western instruments
00:20:35and uh they use. put us to
00:20:39to to to to mess people up, yeah, how do
00:20:43you reconcile that? well, i think is
00:20:45just a propaganda that targets
00:20:49devon. venerable, the younger people, yeah,
00:20:53who are not uh a position
00:20:56to question them, who are not who have not been empowered
00:21:00educationally to understand the um, that those
00:21:04claims are are false, and I truly I was in my
00:21:08dug not too long ago and the house the person we we
00:21:12lived was telling us that when they started the first thing they do was to burn their
00:21:15own certificates engineers um
00:21:20professionals were there you know
00:21:22and it's also you
00:21:23know inspired by this ideology in by ISIS
00:21:27but you can see that that ideology has even collapsed in Syria
00:21:30in Iraq and other where the ideology started
00:21:34so there's no justification that you that
00:21:37you just took an ideology from you know because there's no way if you go to
00:21:41Saudi Arabia the headquarter of uh Islamic
00:21:44knowledge they are not opposed to western
00:21:47education you see lot
00:21:50them women can drive them even studied in UK who studied
00:21:54in us you know their leaders you studied all
00:21:58over the world look at UAE one the most developed countries
00:22:01in the middle east the middle east the they have lot of partnership with
00:22:05western countries with Russia you know improving
00:22:09technology bringing technology to so that UAE
00:22:13could have hosted the world cup in 2022 was
00:22:16so we we need to we need to fight this battle at the level.
00:22:20level the military level and also at the level of
00:22:23ideology, indoctrination, so that our younger ones to
00:22:27not be polluted, and I think that's why I'm happy about what is
00:22:30doing, like in 2025, 1.4 million
00:22:34people w roll for education in brown state, which is huge number, so
00:22:38it's actually tackling them in the realm of you,
00:22:41ideology to to educate people to, this is the best way you can fight, one
00:22:45the best ways you can fight bahu haram, it's not just about taking guns and looking
00:22:49up. to also ensure that the mind of human
00:22:53beings is free so that when they come and recruit them they will they will
00:22:57tell them that they don't want to join the organization all
00:23:00right uh we are done
00:23:04um not not before thanking you for your
00:23:07intervention because we cannot thank you enough for
00:23:11your uh
00:23:14intervention too and we want to thank the background boys
00:23:18who made it possible for the show to be on, so
00:23:22that's it, we are done, that's it on Journalist Hangout
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00:26:15Albert was born November 16,
00:26:191930 in Ogidi Nigeria, he went to Government college
00:26:23in Numuahia, Nigeria, in 1948, Achebe
00:26:27won scholarship to the University of ibad to study medicine, but
00:26:31after year he changed. his major to writing after graduation in
00:26:341953 he became a script writer for the Nigerian
00:26:38Broadcasting Service (NBS) eventually becoming the head
00:26:42programmer for the discussion series. In 1956 he
00:26:46visited London for the first time to take a training course with the
00:26:49BBC. On returning he moved to Enogu and edited
00:26:53and produced stories for the NBS. At Shebe was unhappy
00:26:57with books about Africa written by British authors such as
00:27:01Joseph Conrad. and John Bucan because he felt the
00:27:05descriptions of African people were inaccurate and
00:27:08insulting. In his pat time he worked on things fall
00:27:11apart. The novel was published in 1958. The book won
00:27:15immediate international recognition and also became the basis
00:27:19for a play. His second book, no longer at East, published in
00:27:231960 is set in the last decade before Nigeria achieved
00:27:27independence. In 1961, Chinua Chebe met and
00:27:31married Christiana. will holy and they eventually had four
00:27:34children. the said book in the African trilogy arrow of God
00:27:38was published in 1964. Achibit published his fourth
00:27:42novel, a man the people in 1966. The novel
00:27:46tells a story the widespread corruption of Nigerian politicians
00:27:49and ends in the military cool. During the beafra conflict,
00:27:53achibis house was bombed and his friend Christopher kim was
00:27:57killed. Achibi and his family went into hiding in Byafra and then
00:28:01fled to Britain. for the duration the war. From
00:28:041972 to 1976, achibe held a
00:28:07visiting professorship in African literature as the University of
00:28:11Massachusetts at Amest. After that, he returned again
00:28:15to teach at the University of Nigeria. He became chair the
00:28:19Association of Nigerian writers and edited
00:28:22Wandigo, a journal of igo life and culture. Although
00:28:26he wrote many essays and kept involved with the writing community.
00:28:30Achebe did not write another book.
00:28:321988s and hills the savanna, in
00:28:361990, achibil was involved a car crash in
00:28:39Nigeria which damaged his spine so badly he was paralyzed
00:28:43from the wayist down. Barred college in New York offered him a
00:28:47teaching job and the facilities to make that possible and he taught
00:28:51there from 1991 to 2009. In
00:28:542009, achebe became a professor of African
00:28:58studies at Brown University. In 2012 he pas
00:29:02the essay, there was a country, a personal history of
00:29:06viava. Achebe won the man booker international prize for
00:29:09his life's work in 2007 and received more
00:29:13than 30 honorary doctorats. He remained critical the
00:29:17corruption of Nigerian politicians, condemning those that stole or
00:29:21squandered the nation's all reserves. In addition to his own
00:29:25literary success, he was passionate and active supporter of
00:29:29African writers. However, at Chibet died in Boston. chooset
00:29:33on March 21st, 2013, after a brief illness. He
00:29:37is credited was changing the phase of world literature
00:29:40by presenting the effects of European colonization from the
00:29:44point of view of Africans. He specifically wrote in
00:29:48English, a choice that received some criticism, but his
00:29:52intent was to speak to the whole world about the real
00:29:55problems that the influence of western missionaries and
00:29:58colonialists created in Africa. His life was
00:30:02inspiration and sentimental to western culture, promoting
00:30:06customs and values about traditional African
00:30:10Society.
00:30:47At defining moments, societies are often judged by how they
00:30:51respond to their greatest challenges. For immo state,
00:30:55health care has become the clearest sign of exemplary change.
00:30:59For year.