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00:00:07that Ukraine will have the resources needed to continue fighting, but also, as we see, what is happening over Estonia, Finland, Baltic Centry,
00:00:11Baltic Coast Guard, that is, Putin's growing strategic dilemmas
00:00:14when it comes to the shadow fleet,
00:00:18all of this shows that we are ready, we have everything we need to
00:00:21respond.
00:00:24Well, that's exactly what NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte
00:00:28says, we have all
00:00:30available responses, as Mariusz
00:00:33Marszałkowski from Defense 24
00:00:35said just now, he is still with
00:00:38us, what are these available responses,
00:00:42the question arises, why don't we use them, because
00:00:45it can be, it can be assumed that the Russians are
00:00:49truly unpunished in what they
00:00:51are doing. I mean, the Russians
00:00:55certainly dictate some narrative, Russia
00:00:59is the aggressive party, Russia
00:01:02is the aggressor in Ukraine, Russia
00:01:06is seeking escalation in other countries as well, despite what it says, because let's remember
00:01:10that the Russian narrative internally, as it were,
00:01:12to the Russian society, shows the opposite
00:01:16side, meaning that NATO countries
00:01:19threaten Russia, that NATO countries are a threat to
00:01:23its independence, to its sovereignty, that
00:01:26we, through Ukraine,
00:01:29are fighting Russia, ignoring
00:01:32the fact that Russia attacked Ukraine first in 2014,
00:01:36then in 2022 full-scale,
00:01:40well, unfortunately, this is always a problem
00:01:43when we talk about authoritarian or even
00:01:46totalitarian regimes, as in the case of
00:01:50an increasingly closed Russian
00:01:53society, and it's different in a situation where we are
00:01:56a democratic country and rely on rules...
00:02:30because let's remember that looking at election
00:02:33polls, if the polls are true, if the elections were to
00:02:37be held today, well, we would have for the first time in
00:02:40history, in recent history, openly pro-Russian
00:02:43politicians in the Polish parliament, which
00:02:47is also a rather dangerous
00:02:51element that the Russians want to strengthen
00:02:55even more. So, on the one hand, we do not act
00:02:57in such a way that
00:03:30NATO has a much greater military potential than Russia
00:03:34today. Well, one must remember that Russia is a nuclear
00:03:37power, and that is its advantage over most NATO countries.
00:03:41However, in the event of a conventional
00:03:44confrontation, Russia has no chance,
00:03:47and that is our advantage as Western
00:04:06I'm wondering about one thing that
00:04:08questions for now, we don't have made me wonder, our previous expert, Professor Milczanowski,
00:04:12or Mariusz Marszałkowski, I'm not sure now, but it was important,
00:04:16because I heard that Russia is really looking forward to
00:04:19our elections, more than to its own elections,
00:04:23and in a way, it's understandable, but on the other hand, these are only
00:04:27elections in Poland, it's not that...
00:04:30they will decide the future of the alliance. We are talking about elections in
00:04:34Poland, of course, but we are also talking about elections in all of Europe. In a moment, we have elections
00:04:37in France, where Marine Le Pen is running, and currently
00:04:41the polls show her unconditional victory. We have
00:04:44Germany, where increasingly popular
00:04:48is the AFD. Well, we have us,
00:04:51as Mr. Mariusz Marszałkowski said,
00:04:55according to the polls we currently have, and if elections were held
00:04:58today, well, then in...
00:05:03The Russians are practicing their
00:05:06propaganda and such minor acts of
00:05:08sabotage, as our guests repeated, to...
00:05:13deter us from wanting to help Ukraine, but it's working. Well, that's
00:05:17unfortunately the worst part, that the Russians are succeeding, we
00:05:20can't find an antidote to this disease that
00:05:24the Russians are currently injecting into our blood,
00:05:28this poison is constantly being injected into us
00:05:31by them in some way, not only to us
00:05:34Poles, but to all countries in Europe, our
00:05:37soil falls particularly
00:05:41susceptible, also because we have a lot of
00:05:45refugees from Ukraine, about how solidary we were,
00:05:48how we helped them when the war broke out,
00:05:52we are slowly forgetting, if we have already forgotten, we
00:05:55forgot quite quickly and unfortunately, politicians
00:05:59are helping us with this, because when we stood at the
00:06:03border and took in everyone who was fleeing the war,
00:06:06we provided them with a roof over their heads, we fed them,
00:06:09we brought toys to the children, we
00:06:12even fed the animals with whom they crossed
00:06:15the border, I thought to myself then, when will a politician
00:06:19come and spoil all this for us and cause
00:06:22our good hearts to turn into bad hearts,
00:06:26well, they are slowly turning into these bad hearts.
00:06:29Politicians came to us from the
00:06:32East, because it's not that our politicians suddenly
00:06:35started opposing Ukraine,
00:06:39this Russian propaganda, which we talked about many times today
00:06:42in connection with this drone, simply
00:06:46enters our national politics,
00:06:48French politics, German politics,
00:06:52Spanish politics, Czech politics, Slovak politics,
00:06:56where we see in which
00:06:59direction this politics is
00:07:02turning, more and more,
00:07:05more and more support is given to parties that are
00:07:08anti-Ukrainian, who either say
00:07:11that they will not spend a single zloty, kopeck,
00:07:15pound, or cent on helping
00:07:18Ukraine, and that everything they can
00:07:21do, they can possibly do for money. Unfortunately,
00:07:25Donald Trump and the United States are leading
00:07:28this, which
00:07:31has largely stopped its aid to Ukraine,
00:07:34and Donald Trump publicly says, we will send weapons, but
00:07:38someone has to pay for them, we will no longer
00:07:41help cost-free. And parties that propose extreme solutions, which
00:07:45usually sound very simple, have already
00:07:48taken power many times, it never
00:08:05the outset, I would like to ask about this specific drone that was
00:08:08found today near Ustka, very close.
00:08:12Ustka, the one that was recovered from the Baltic Sea, actually.
00:08:16Please tell me, what kind of object is this? Well,
00:08:20it is probably an unmanned aerial vehicle of the
00:08:23Gerbera type, and most likely Russian, everything indicates that.
00:08:27However, investigative actions by the military police are underway at the
00:08:30scene, and we will be able to state clearly
00:08:34after these actions. The military police will certainly
00:08:37provide information, they will communicate, if they are
00:08:40sure, where it came from. Well, this object was found
00:08:44during the passage of one
00:08:47of our hydrographic motorboats belonging to the Navy,
00:08:50which noticed, during its passage from Darłowo to Łeba,
00:08:54this object drifting
00:08:57near the beach in Rusinowo, as you
00:09:00mentioned, and they secured this object, notified the relevant services,
00:09:04which are now, as I mentioned, working on site and
00:09:07carrying out actions regarding this object. Tell me about such
00:09:11motorboat patrols.
00:09:42which exist, especially in the vicinity of
00:09:46our critical infrastructure, and patrols are conducted there
00:09:49and so-called show of force or showing
00:09:53our presence, and of course, the routes
00:09:57of passages, whether of foreign
00:10:00ships or vessels, are also analyzed,
00:10:03whether this in any way threatens our infrastructure, meaning
00:10:07eventual ships from the shadow fleet are under your
00:10:10control, of course. The operation, Operation
00:10:14Bay, lasts 24 hours a day, so
00:10:17here, the operation of our ships at
00:10:20sea is daily, if there is such a need, it is
00:10:23intensified.
00:10:26The Navy ensures the security of our infrastructure, and that is
00:10:30how it is every day. I would like to ask about this drone again,
00:10:34what are such Gerbera drones
00:10:36used for? Such drones are usually
00:10:40used as decoys for air defense systems, but they can also
00:10:44be armed with a small several-kilogram
00:10:47warhead, which is why the military
00:10:50police will certainly certainly
00:10:54be supported
00:11:25of an air attack, but here, it's too early to
00:11:28talk about the purpose of this drone,
00:11:31no, we haven't observed any violation of our air space
00:11:35in recent days since July 30th, our systems haven't observed
00:11:38such a violation, so it's too early a
00:11:42stage to confirm where this unmanned
00:11:44aerial vehicle might have come from
00:11:48near our beach, but it will certainly be thoroughly
00:11:51checked. Do you have any knowledge whether a similar drone
00:11:55was used to attack the crossing in Dorohusk
00:11:58yesterday, when it happened, or were they completely different
00:12:02missiles?
00:12:04From the initial information we have, unmanned aerial vehicles of the
00:12:07Geran-5 type were used in that
00:12:10area, even the jet
00:12:14ones, so much faster and with
00:12:17a much larger explosive charge, so no,
00:12:21it was not a similar type of object.
00:12:25I would also like to ask about the Bay operation. You say that
00:12:28it involves patrolling coastal areas, including
00:12:32the Baltic Sea. What else does this operation
00:12:35consist of? Well, in this operation, the Navy
00:12:39is tasked primarily with
00:12:42patrolling our, our
00:12:44areas, where we have critical
00:12:47infrastructure in the Baltic, but
00:12:50also, if necessary,
00:12:56it establishes communication with ships passing through our
00:12:59infrastructure and checks if they do
00:13:01not threaten, they do not threaten the security of this
00:13:05infrastructure. Our sailors
00:13:08also operate within Baltic Centry, so there is also multinational
00:13:12allied cooperation
00:13:15in the Baltic Sea.
00:13:18Well, it is being conducted, this
00:13:22operation in principle started in 2022.
00:13:25Well, it's primarily monitoring, identification of any threats, and
00:13:29observation of our waters. Well,
00:13:33it is known that the threat in the Baltic is increasing, and more
00:13:36and more ships of the shadow fleet
00:13:39are destabilizing the situation there,
00:13:42but our sailors are watching over this
00:13:45security and are on
00:13:48site to be able to
00:13:50react
00:13:52and they also support in this primarily the maritime branch of the Border Guard,
00:13:56whose units are also responsible for the security of this infrastructure.
00:13:59So, Colonel, finally, I would just like to ask, when will we be
00:14:03certain that this drone did not contain any
00:14:06payload, when will it be examined?
00:14:09Well, that's a question for the military police, how quickly they finish their
00:14:12activities, that's within their jurisdiction, the military police will
00:14:15inform about any
00:14:17consequences
00:14:20of this discovery, about its
00:14:23expert findings.
00:14:26Or perhaps further investigative actions will be undertaken
00:14:29by other services, so it's hard for me to say at this moment. As I
00:14:33mentioned, the military police should inform
00:14:48a piece of information I just found, that the Lithuanian
00:14:51Ministry of Defense is conducting
00:14:55a thorough investigation into what happened last night over
00:14:59its territory, namely, an unknown flying
00:15:02object was located, which flew over at 4
00:15:05AM from the territory of Belarus, flew over
00:15:08Lithuania, then headed towards the Kaliningrad
00:15:12Oblast, but its further fate is not
00:15:16known, and it is not excluded that this is exactly the drone
00:15:20that is now found on our beach in the Baltic Sea,
00:15:23because information has also appeared that
00:15:26our services, in turn, are
00:15:28reaching
00:15:31such knowledge that it most likely
00:15:35drifted to the place where it
00:15:38was found, so it is not excluded that this drone,
00:15:41which flew over Lithuania at 4 AM, fell into the sea,
00:15:45and then some current carried it to our
00:15:48beach. Yes, such a scenario is possible, indeed, we will also
00:15:52discuss it with our next
00:16:02now we are wondering whether this drone, probably
00:16:06a Gerbera drone, was found
00:16:10on the beach near Ustka, whether it got there by accident, or
00:16:13whether, as my editorial colleague said, it could have
00:16:17drifted there by accident, or is it that there are no such
00:16:21accidents in this type of events? Well, we have two
00:16:25possible scenarios. The first possible scenario is that it is
00:16:28indeed this Lithuanian drone, and that
00:16:31it flew out of Belarus, flew over
00:16:34Lithuania, found its place in the
00:16:37sea and drifted. Only one thing
00:16:40doesn't fit for me, namely the place
00:16:44where this drone was found, and the fact that it is very
00:16:48close to an important anti-aircraft artillery training ground
00:16:50in Wicko Morskie, something about it doesn't look like a coincidence to me,
00:16:54but let's say it's possible. Now,
00:16:58two things: Gerbera comes in several variants, one of them
00:17:02is a variant that is not only a decoy,
00:17:05but also a reconnaissance drone, and very often
00:17:09these two or three kilograms of explosive material are placed
00:17:13there so that it would be a self-destructing
00:17:16device, so that the potential
00:17:19finder would not analyze what was inside.
00:17:22Honestly, I am very curious what
00:17:26is in this drone, whether it is just a normal decoy,
00:17:30a normal decoy that got out of
00:17:33control and just flew until it practically sank,
00:17:37and drifted to us, or if it is not
00:17:41a deliberate attempt to send a reconnaissance drone,
00:17:45for example, from the Kaliningrad Oblast, from
00:17:49the vicinity of Königsberg, right, because that is also
00:17:52possible. Gerbera is extremely easy
00:17:54to launch. You even have a video where
00:17:57a Gerbera is launched from
00:18:01a pickup truck, and it is indeed possible. Here,
00:18:04an additional detail is the fact that
00:18:08in Scandinavia, two years ago and last year, there was
00:18:12a whole series of thefts of pickup trucks
00:18:15and other pickups. When this
00:18:18network was broken up, it turned out that these
00:18:21vehicles were transported to
00:18:24Russia and there, there they were assigned to soldiers
00:18:28who were involved in reconnaissance, launching
00:18:31these drones. So we have, so to speak,
00:18:34an international enterprise with
00:18:36a Russian flavor. Well, when it comes to the Gerberas themselves,
00:18:40it is a rather slow drone, it is
00:18:44a drone with an internal combustion engine, so
00:18:46here you can say that
00:18:49if, if, it was
00:18:52launched to either reconnaissance,
00:18:56or another thing, the colonel here pointed out
00:19:00the function of a decoy. Sometimes it happens that a decoy
00:19:03is sent to, for example, activate our
00:19:07radars, our air defense system. Then the Russians
00:19:11sit, for example, on board an Il-20,
00:19:15which is an electronic warfare aircraft,
00:19:18or on installations,
00:19:21right, reconnaissance
00:19:23in the Kaliningrad Oblast,
00:19:27they check how our coastal defense radars
00:19:30work. A very important thing, characteristics,
00:19:34bandwidth, how it turns on and how it works.
00:19:37Simply, so that in case of a larger action,
00:19:41to jam it. So there are many
00:19:46answers to them.
00:19:49seeking this answer, which you mentioned, whether it's
00:19:53a month, a week, or we will never know.
00:19:56It could even be a few days, it could be a month, it all
00:20:00depends on whether we can determine
00:20:03what the drone's route was. If this is
00:20:06the drone, then I assume that anything
00:20:10is possible, that it is possible that it was
00:20:14a decoy that got out of control, it is also possible
00:20:17that it was a reconnaissance drone that flew to
00:20:20Lithuania, but due to
00:20:24the electronic warfare system's operation in
00:20:27Lithuania, such systems exist, it
00:20:30went off course and landed in
00:20:32the Baltic Sea. If, however, there is
00:20:36a chance that it was launched from the Kaliningrad
00:20:39Oblast, from the Kaliningrad region, then
00:20:42we have a certain puzzle, whether it was
00:20:45intentional, or whether we want,
00:20:49or wanted
00:20:52to test our air defense or to
00:20:54reconnaissance it? It is very interesting
00:20:58what was in that drone. Mr. Marek, but I
00:21:01understand that we see the routes of such drones
00:21:04that fly over our territories, I don't know if from these
00:21:08AWACS that circle over our, over
00:21:11our sky, or from satellites, and we are able
00:21:14to accurately determine this route. Well, here
00:21:18there is a certain problem for...
00:21:50Barbara will also take up this gap, well, that's a matter of 2028
00:21:52and later, but
00:21:56I think Gerberas were usually launched at a higher
00:21:59altitude, so, so
00:22:02we will recognize how it flew there,
00:22:05rather, and we will have clarity whether it
00:22:09was intentional, or as we discussed earlier,
00:22:13the wind carried it away, unfortunately,
00:22:16it simply had bad luck.
00:23:24that was also the reason for this attack, very likely, because to show the West
00:23:28that the Russians are still strong, are
00:23:32still powerful, to give them something to think about, as they say, the Russians
00:23:35usually like to give something to think about, but fortunately,
00:23:39it doesn't always work out for them. But
00:23:42this time, this time, well, I think
00:23:46they gave something to think about, especially to Carl Bild, that one should... Thank you
00:24:24morning. And we are just wondering if we will
00:24:27find out what kind of drone it
00:24:31was specifically, this drone that is initially assessed by the
00:24:34Operational Command of the Armed Forces as a Gerbera
00:24:37drone. We don't know if it contained any payload, we
00:24:40don't know for sure if it was a drone that drifted to
00:24:44us, as my editorial colleague said, or if
00:24:47it was intentionally sent to the place where it
00:24:50was found, i.e., on the beach near
00:24:53Ustka. How do you assess this situation?
00:24:57The fact that it is a Gerbera drone is visible in the photo, which from...