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00:00:00that these factors cannot explain the string of incredibly brazen
00:00:04daily attacks on people, because previously cautious
00:00:07animals now fearlessly enter populated areas and
00:00:11seem to test people's strength, and now
00:00:14it's as if they've been reprogrammed, that's the
00:00:16feeling. After our broadcast, a new ominous
00:00:19fragment appeared in this puzzle: Krasnoyarsk Krai
00:00:23on October 7th, here rabies was officially detected
00:00:26in a brown bear, a deadly virus for humans... a virus that
00:00:30is transmitted through bites and which, after the appearance
00:00:33of symptoms, leaves its victim no chance of salvation.
00:00:37But where do predators get this dangerous infection? Was the infection
00:00:41natural, or did someone interfere in this process?
00:00:44History knows cases when pathogens of deadly
00:00:47diseases were used as biological weapons.
00:00:51One example is the Scottish island of Gruinard. In
00:00:541942, the British military, preparing to use
00:00:58biological weapons against.
00:01:30as carriers of this very biological
00:01:33weapon. While scientists are looking for explanations for what is happening,
00:01:36bears continue to throw new riddles at them.
00:01:40The circumstances of some attacks clearly resemble a thriller
00:01:43scenario. Altai Krai. A fifteen-year-old teenager tried
00:01:47to escape from an enraged bear in a tree, but
00:01:50the predator caught the boy and inflicted terrible
00:01:53wounds on him. It seemed the boy was doomed, but the bear's claw
00:01:56pierced the phone in the teenager's pocket. The battery flashed.
00:02:01and the beast ran away, the boy survived, here's another tragedy: unfortunately, in
00:02:05this case, the victim of the beast died, but new circumstances
00:02:08suddenly came to light in the case of her death:
00:02:11Krasnoyarsk Krai, a pensioner was found dead after a bear attack,
00:02:15it is known that the predator dragged her out of the house through the window, but how
00:02:19did this even become possible? Today on the program
00:02:22"Let Them Talk," we will for the first time show footage from a surveillance
00:02:25camera aimed at the window of the deceased, what was captured on
00:02:28film and doesn't this recording hold the key to solving
00:02:32one of the most inexplicable attacks, and most importantly
00:02:36is not the discovered deadly
00:02:38infection just the first signal of impending catastrophic
00:02:42events? Don't miss the investigation of the program
00:02:46"Let Them Talk."
00:02:48In the month since the broadcast of our previous program on this
00:02:52topic, not a day goes by without a report of another
00:02:56bear approaching people or attacking a person.
00:03:00A fifteen-year-old young man was injured in
00:03:03Barnaul, a witness to what happened, Viktor Zhigulsky, is in our studio today, let's welcome him,
00:03:19good evening, what happened before your eyes, yes,
00:03:22a bear attacked a guy, how was it, yes, it all happened before
00:03:26my eyes, well, we came to the apiary to work.
00:03:30was going to treat, just started treating the first hive, I mean
00:03:33I see that a bear is already crossing
00:03:36the fence, so Anton and I ran,
00:03:40I climbed a tree , and
00:03:42that is, where we started treating, there were also trees nearby, he
00:03:46immediately climbed them, and I was a little further away, but
00:03:50there have already been such cases, bears came specifically to
00:03:53attack people, no, we haven't had that, no, so
00:03:57this is the first time, what saved him?
00:04:01Well, his phone exploded, that is, when I was already climbing
00:04:04the tree, and that is, I heard him screaming, that is, I realized that
00:04:08he had thrown him from the tree, and that is, I
00:04:11got down, from the tree I let the dogs go, I also started
00:04:15screaming there, and that is the dogs ran
00:04:18towards him, and he got distracted by them and went, went
00:04:21calmly, and that is, when the bear climbed back over the fence, I quickly ran
00:04:25to Anton, so your apiary is located near the forest, is
00:04:29it safe to set up an apiary near
00:04:32the forest, near the bear's home, but the bear, of course, logically,
00:04:35will come out for the smell of honey, why didn't you think
00:04:39about your safety, probably some kind of fence should have been
00:04:43put up, well, the apiary near the forest, indeed, there were these
00:04:46fences, everything, we have an electric fence all connected, well
00:04:50that is, when we started doing all this work, it was turned off, this is
00:04:53the first such case, the first case, it's just that usually normally
00:04:57everyone lived together in the taiga, and normally. Note,
00:05:01Dmitry, I want to say, the bear came to eat honey, right, like honey, but
00:05:04he saw people, people ran away from him, honey, please, eat, he didn't eat honey, he
00:05:08went after people, he went after the boy, he started hunting,
00:05:12he ran, the hunter's instinct awoke, of course, he
00:05:15ran after well, hunting, well, is this normal, Timofey,
00:05:19is this normal behavior, or an anomaly, because what they are telling us now is that this
00:05:23is abnormal behavior, this has never happened before, no, this is absolutely normal
00:05:27behavior, I want to inform everyone gathered here that
00:05:30a bear morphologically is a plantigrade wolf, that is,
00:05:33it is a predator that primarily prefers
00:05:37a meat diet, another thing is that it doesn't want to hunt
00:05:40often and it... compensates for the lack of meat in its diet
00:05:44with all sorts of tasty things, raspberries, honey, frogs,
00:05:48mice, but it happens that when it sees before itself, here's
00:05:52honey, and a huge piece of meat that climbed not very high
00:05:55into a tree, of course, it thinks, now I
00:05:58will feast, it behaves absolutely normally, there hasn't been a year
00:06:02like this, where every week there are reports
00:06:05that bears are attacking and hunting people, yes there were
00:06:08cases where they came out, but usually they managed to scare them away somehow.
00:06:12Well, in fact, bears, just like people, can be
00:06:16brave, cowardly, kind and evil, smart and stupid
00:06:20and as always, there are very few smart ones, and uh,
00:06:23mostly aggressive and cowardly. A bear really
00:06:26resembles a human, and a bear thinks roughly
00:06:30like a stupid, aggressive human, so its
00:06:33behavior should be interpreted
00:06:36by those around it. Before you is a stupid, aggressive, possibly
00:06:39drunk, very strong man with a knife. This
00:06:43is his kind of psychotype, well there was a heavy sigh from Anatoly Nikolaevich just now, good
00:06:46evening, Anatoly, the Honored
00:06:50Ecologist of Russia is in our studio, who, by the way, took part in
00:06:54the meeting that was held in the government on this topic, that is, this is already reaching
00:06:58the level of serious discussion, the problem
00:07:00exists, yes, the problem exists, it didn't come
00:07:04out of nowhere, it was expected and assumed
00:07:07a long time ago, such cases have already occurred, these are population explosions, I called
00:07:11them that, I... I have been dealing with bears for more than 50 years
00:07:14and I know something about them, I found
00:07:17a very simple answer, this is my hypothesis, I am not saying that it is so, in fact,
00:07:21this is the so-called hundredth
00:07:24monkey effect, when on one, on one of
00:07:26the islands in Japan in a video camera
00:07:30they recorded when the hundredth monkey washed
00:07:32a sweet potato in sea water, all the monkeys on all
00:07:35the islands in the Tokyo Zoo started washing
00:07:38sweet potatoes, has something similar happened with our
00:07:41bears? Look, since the beginning of September, bears
00:07:45started behaving inadequately in Canada, in
00:07:48America, on Sakhalin, on Kamchatka, throughout Russia, in
00:07:52Western Europe, the same thing, that is, there was
00:07:55some kind of population explosion, semi-cosmic, whether they have
00:07:59this, this is what interests me most, because
00:08:02how did they transmit this
00:08:05information to each other, apparently, somewhere the hundredth or 101st bear attacked
00:08:09a person, and bears began to consider a person... worthy
00:08:12prey, let's move away from esotericism and think,
00:08:16after all, let's operate with normal
00:08:19facts, the forests are covered with windfalls, this is an excellent habitat
00:08:23for the beast, uh, so, the bear ceased
00:08:27to be a desirable hunting trophy, because the meat is not
00:08:30valued due to trichinosis, skins are not needed because there are no
00:08:33taxidermists and no demand for it, the license is very
00:08:37expensive, no culling, the food base is enormous, garbage dumps
00:08:40everywhere, of course they multiply.
00:09:42is abnormal, this is exactly what is not happening, this is an anomaly, that
00:09:46very anomaly that we are seeing now, because apiaries always
00:09:50stood in the taiga, and even very often without any
00:09:53electric fences, villages were always in the deep taiga,
00:09:56and people coexisted
00:09:58with bears,
00:10:01because bears were always kept at gunshot
00:10:04range, in recent years the behavior of humans towards bears has changed
00:10:07very much, because what are we doing, we started
00:10:11feeding them, to do what?
00:10:45but it just comes to mind first, it's precisely the version of some biological
00:10:48weapon, of some kind of external influence on the bear, about which, well, I just one
00:10:52second,
00:11:25this hundredth patient, as you say, the hundredth monkey, yes, he just made
00:11:29this observation, recorded by cameras, but
00:11:32no one has ever made such observations of bears, that is, you think, and you
00:11:36announced this at the meeting of the Deputy Prime Minister, yes,
00:11:39that bears somehow the entire population now knows that
00:11:43humans are edible, some information was transmitted,
00:11:47what happened, I cannot say, and even
00:11:50people who are used to bears cannot understand, Vyacheslav
00:11:53Lemzhan, the father of the victim.
00:12:25but weren't you scared to let your son go there, a fifteen-year-old,
00:12:28well, scared or not scared, but there were no such cases where a bear came
00:12:31and attacked
00:12:34someone, yes, they walked there, walked,
00:12:37then everyone came at once, crowded around
00:12:39the village, crowded around the apiaries,
00:12:43at everyone's, not just mine, apiaries are everywhere
00:12:45every 3 km, at every apiary, yes, at
00:12:49every apiary there are attacks on bees, on
00:12:52people, everywhere. I
00:12:55think it's a rather strange phrase: scared, not scared, but it didn't
00:12:59happen, because still, right now, especially in places
00:13:02where people live next to bears, it should
00:13:06be scary, and there should be rules,
00:13:09as far as I know, it happened in the evening, that is, after,
00:13:13it happened, excuse me, please, it happened in the morning at 10 or 11
00:13:16o'clock, that is, it was light, yes, daytime, when
00:13:20it's the peak of work, when it would seem, the boys, now
00:13:24apiaries with these...
00:13:30He got to the point, he even
00:13:33comes to some apiaries, he comes with a log,
00:13:36well, he is smart, he comes with a log,
00:13:40throws it at the bush or breaks the bushes on the shepherd, climbs
00:13:44over and smashes the bees, but by default, what does a bear do at 10 AM,
00:13:48it should be sleeping, it should be sleeping, it should be sleeping, when
00:13:51it's a solid animal, that is, closer to night ideally.
00:13:55should with darkness, when it got light, it should go and
00:13:58rest, that's how bears behave everywhere, the only time
00:14:01is when they have a fattening period, they can feed under
00:14:05a tree until noon or longer, then a break, then
00:14:08feed again, but that doesn't mean they should be active around the clock, no,
00:14:12there's already snow there, isn't it time for hibernation, like, into a global winter
00:14:16already slowly, how do bears usually go into hibernation in your
00:14:19region? For us, probably at the end
00:14:22of September, everything is gone, nothing is there,
00:14:26so it shouldn't be, there shouldn't have been any bear for a month already,
00:14:30ideally, no bear should be there anymore. Your
00:14:33son was saved by a mobile phone, essentially, right, yes, yes, which
00:14:36Viktor saved, and the mobile phone, well, from the impact, terrible
00:14:40burns on the body, this mobile phone exploded, which was
00:14:44in his pocket from the impact of the bear's claw, the bear struck with its claw, yes, the phone
00:14:47exploded, and that essentially scared it away, yes, if not for that,
00:14:51then what are the doctors saying now, how is he doing?
00:14:55Well, the condition is stable, but
00:14:58the boy is all bitten, skull
00:15:01chewed,
00:15:03horror, the skull is bitten through, well
00:15:07it almost reached the brain, large hematomas,
00:15:10bitten shoulders these
00:15:14right arm doesn't work, everything is bitten through,
00:15:17both arms are bitten through, mainly torn, torn
00:15:21nose,
00:15:24torn nose. eye, eye here is also
00:15:26bitten through, well I know, now the best doctors are fighting for Anton's
00:15:30life and his health, well, the most dangerous part is supposedly
00:15:34behind us, I was with him yesterday, he...
00:15:37was glad that I came, well we wish
00:15:40Anton a speedy recovery, we are also dealing with
00:15:44his health with doctors, I heard that he has already been
00:15:47transferred from intensive care, so the worst is indeed
00:15:50over, but this is truly a miracle that after such
00:15:54an encounter with a bear, the person survived, usually, unfortunately, everything ends
00:15:57badly, Mikhail Arsenevich, what will happen if they don't go into hibernation at all, we talked about this last
00:16:01time, but look, it's already
00:16:05November, they are still telling stories. In most
00:16:08of Russia, they are guaranteed to hibernate where
00:16:11it starts to snow, I think this
00:16:15will happen literally in
00:16:17a week or two, for some time the tension will still
00:16:21persist, I think,
00:16:24that generally in such
00:16:27situations, I will tell a little about myself, I have been dealing
00:16:30with bear conflicts since eighty-six
00:16:33, I have seen, well, if not everything.
00:16:37It's a lot, and I saw a year when there were 80
00:16:41fatal cases in the country,
00:16:44therefore, that is, almost nothing
00:16:47surprises me here, everything has already happened,
00:16:50so, I'm telling you, usually the peak comes right before
00:16:53going into the den, now we are
00:16:57saving ourselves by this fact that there is a mass
00:17:01forced culling, now they are simply eliminating this most
00:17:04hungry and aggressive fraction of the population.
00:17:09but it's not a fact that they come out to people because people are
00:17:13doing this, I'm watching a video now, it's
00:17:15feeding, they came by car, if you turn on
00:17:19the sound, we will hear that there are honks, at the honk that
00:17:23a bear should ideally be scared of, we are feeding
00:17:26the animal, accordingly we are creating conditioned reflexes, the animal is not
00:17:29afraid of humans, the animal is not afraid of the chemical
00:17:33smell of a car, the animal is not afraid,
00:17:36it turns out.
00:19:37the brain structure generally at the protein level, or some kind of modified rabies virus,
00:19:40I don't know how to explain that all over the world they suddenly
00:19:44learned to act identically all at once,
00:19:47so I say, bears are - most likely, this
00:19:50is an acceptable explanation, first -
00:19:54yes, our climate is changing somewhat, it changes the bear's life cycles, yes, it
00:19:58goes into hibernation a little later, secondly, magnetic field disturbances, including
00:20:02local ones, the bear loses its orientation, all this
00:20:05changes the behavior of individual individuals, whose numbers may also have increased,
00:20:08well, finally, another thing, it's banal, understandable: in
00:20:12the sixties and even seventies, there was no mobile phone with an HD camera for
00:20:16every second teenager, so these cases remained just rumors
00:20:19or vivid stories at the level of a fisherman telling another fisherman, but now
00:20:23all this is documented. Well, by the way, about documentation, our
00:20:27editorial office has obtained terrifying footage from a surveillance
00:20:30camera, taken at the moment of one of the most mysterious tragedies in
00:20:34Krasnoyarsk Krai. A bear dragged a woman out of her house through a window.
00:20:38killed, what the camera recorded, immediately after a short commercial, we'll be back, let them talk,
00:20:42stay with
00:20:42us,
00:26:32The statistics of the bear invasion continue to be updated with
00:26:35new tragedies, but one of the attacks in the Krasnoyarsk Krai still
00:26:39defies explanation. A bear broke into a house, dragged
00:26:42its owner out through the window into the street, killed her and didn't even
00:26:46touch her body, what made the predator commit this inexplicable
00:26:50reprisal, the editorial staff of Let Them Talk got recordings from surveillance cameras
00:26:54aimed at that very window. Will the mystery of the tragedy be revealed
00:26:58today?
00:27:00The terrible statistics of the inexplicable bear invasion have been supplemented
00:27:04by another horrific case. Altai Krai. An enraged
00:27:07predator attacked a fifteen-year-old teenager. It was not deterred by
00:27:11the presence of an adult man next to the boy, nor by the boy's
00:27:15attempt to escape into a tree. The beast's flight was caused by
00:27:18a mobile phone. The bear's claw accidentally pierced the phone's
00:27:22battery, which was in the boy's pocket, the phone flared up and
00:27:25the predator ran away. Today in the studio "Let Them Talk" is the father of the injured
00:27:29teenager, what made the beast so furiously
00:27:33pursue its victim, and do the local residents,
00:27:36accustomed to living next to bears, know why nothing like this
00:27:40happened before, but there were no such cases where a bear came
00:27:43and attacked someone, yes, they walked
00:27:47there, walked, then everyone came
00:27:51at once, crowded around the village, crowded around the apiaries,
00:27:54an unexpected hypothesis is put forward by Doctor
00:27:57of Biological Sciences, Honored Ecologist of Russia, Anatoly
00:28:01Kudaktin, the scientist addresses
00:28:19connects thousands of predators and how this hypothesis
00:28:23explains the fact that new behavioral patterns emerged
00:28:26in animals not connected to each other simultaneously,
00:28:30how bears transmit to each other.
00:29:02who sense the magnetic field. Of course, all distortions of the magnetic
00:29:06field cause failures in their navigation. Have the
00:29:09animals really lost their natural bearings? Will it be possible
00:29:12to return to the previous model, when humans and bears peacefully coexisted
00:29:16next to each other? This is an anomaly, that very anomaly
00:29:19that we are seeing now, because apiaries always stood in
00:29:23the taiga and even very often without any electric fences.
00:29:27Microbiologist Igor Nikulin is looking for the reason for the inexplicable behavior
00:29:30of bears in a completely different area.
00:30:02one version is more incredible than the other, but while specialists
00:30:05are trying to understand what is happening in the forests, one of the most
00:30:09mysterious tragedies of this season receives an unexpected
00:30:12continuation. Krasnoyarsk Krai: a pensioner was found dead
00:30:16after a bear attack, it is known that the predator dragged the woman
00:30:19out into the street, having entered her house through a window. Today in the program
00:30:23"Let Them Talk", we will for the first time show footage from a surveillance camera
00:30:27aimed at the window of the deceased, will this recording help to restore the picture
00:30:30of one of the most mysterious falls, but the main thing is that
00:30:34a woman will appear in our studio who was in the same house
00:30:37on the night of the attack, the deceased's friend decided to tell
00:30:41everything, what details can make us look at the circumstances
00:30:44of the pensioner's death completely differently, what really
00:30:48makes bears break the unwritten laws of coexistence
00:30:52with humans.
00:30:55Together with Lyudmila Prokopyevna in that same house was Nadezhda
00:30:58Chanchina, she is here in our studio today, she came to Moscow with her daughter-in-law with...
00:31:02And Irina, welcome.
00:31:15Hello, hello, good evening, hello,
00:31:19Nadezhda Anatolyevna, but you were lucky to survive in this
00:31:22situation, it's just a chance, a matter of chance,
00:31:25we spent the whole day making zucchini
00:31:28caviar with her, well the window was plastic,
00:31:32open from above, it was about 10 o'clock and
00:31:36this, I say, Lyud, I say, I'm going to sleep, she says: turn on the radio
00:31:40for me, because in the morning she had to go to work.
00:31:43I, she says, will stay up a little later, I'll finish rolling
00:31:47the jars, well, that's it, I went to sleep, in the morning Svetlana
00:31:50Anatolyevna woke me up, she is the hostess, next door
00:31:54is Fazenda, she says, Lyudmila was killed by a
00:31:57bear. It was a complete shock for me. I
00:32:00woke up, she wasn't there, and the door was
00:32:04latched. I thought, how could I have opened it? Her body was lying about
00:32:08three meters, I guess, from that
00:32:11cabin. I couldn't. They show... a little
00:32:15blood. The experts arrived. When
00:32:18that happened, on one side,
00:32:21there was bear fur, and on the other side,
00:32:25Lyudmila's hair.
00:32:28He just killed her in a moment. Listen, you've been
00:32:31living next to bears for more than a year, it's clear that this animal is
00:32:35familiar to you. Has it ever happened that they just deliberately
00:32:38attack people? Never, never. Well, about
00:32:42that, we have this version.
00:32:45The expert and the investigator,
00:32:48when he started looking at the cabin, you could see
00:32:52claw marks. He started to be skeptical. There was no
00:32:55talk about a bear, nothing. When he
00:32:58started being skeptical, she thought again that the bulls had gotten in.
00:33:02Uh-huh, she just opened that door, oh, this
00:33:05window, the window, and he killed her at that time.
00:33:09So, it's like a hunt for people, a hunt for people has been declared. You understand, it's
00:33:13a hunt. He came up, entered the yard,
00:33:17but Lyudmila's door opens inwards.
00:33:19He would have, if the door had opened outwards,
00:33:23he would have just pushed it in. Uh-huh, because
00:33:26near the porch, there were huge
00:33:30footprints, everything was overturned on the porch. So he tried to enter through the
00:33:33door, and then he realized he needed to lure her out, so she would open the
00:33:37window. But wait, so it's a miracle that you survived, because
00:33:41you were right there in the next window, weren't you?
00:34:51that they don't have enough berries in the forest or something, not berries, at least
00:34:54some explanation.
00:34:57I'll just give my version, my version, about what I
00:35:01heard. Believe me, when Covid started, at our time too,
00:35:04everyone at first treated it so, you know,
00:35:07well, some nonsense, everything, everything, and then it turned out not to be nonsense.
00:35:11It turned out that these were special strains that were released from laboratories. So,
00:35:15I'm more than sure, there's even reason to believe that it's the same here. I
00:35:18think that in some unfriendly country, they could have developed this
00:35:22potion and sprayed it in the habitats of bears, targeted at
00:35:26bears, turning off their fear brain, you understand? That is, they started a
00:35:30biological war against us. In fact, at the same time, environmentalists still believe that
00:35:33the version is more natural, Anton Nikolaevich, yes, that somehow they themselves
00:35:37transmit it to each other for the first time. This science is not
00:35:40yet known, so when they say now, let's take some
00:35:44measures. There is a group of synanthropic bears, they
00:35:47need to be removed, synanthropic, to save the
00:35:50population. I have always said that a good
00:35:53chess player, when he starts playing a game, sacrifices a piece
00:35:57and wins the game. Now we have
00:36:00such a situation, we must remove this synanthropic group
00:36:04that has come to people and attacks people, to save
00:36:08the rest of the bears. But to this, animal rights activists say that
00:36:11we are doing everything so that, I don't know, to increase.
00:36:27Let's look at the footage that people themselves record in defense of
00:36:31bears. Friends, the world has gone mad. I am just in
00:36:34shock at the news I just read: premiums will be paid for shooting bears during
00:36:38hibernation. I start crying immediately. Bears are going to be
00:36:42shot even in winter right in their dens, where bear cubs are with their mothers.
00:36:45At the same time, they are promoting the removal of limits on their hunting and other legislative restrictions. For
00:36:49killed animals, monetary rewards are already being introduced in some regions, up to 50,000 rubles per
00:36:53animal life is worth 50,000 rubles. I just have no
00:36:56words. All this.
00:37:03Oh, good evening, this is your video, it's clear that it's very touching, you really want to protect
00:37:07animals, yes, are you not convinced by experts who say
00:37:10otherwise? Of course, it's very scary what's
00:37:14happening now, that bears attack people, children,
00:37:17you wouldn't wish such a thing to your enemy
00:37:20to experience, but I believe that this needs to be investigated,
00:37:24why this is happening, they say that... there's no
00:37:28food, right, I mean, no berries,
00:37:31why, why are forests being cut down, yes,
00:37:33why are bears coming to people
00:37:37for help, they are not all going
00:37:40to attack and be aggressive, they are going for help, for food,
00:37:43because we humans ourselves have accustomed them to this,
00:37:46as they said in the previous broadcast, that there are landfills that are not
00:37:50equipped. I think that this problem needs to be solved at the
00:37:54root, the problem with landfills, the problem with this
00:37:57feeding, yes, when it's thrown away, it should be solved
00:38:01systematically, right? Here's the story about, it's not clear anymore what
00:38:05started, what was first, these feeding places, as you
00:38:08say, yes, feeding, or attacks on people, and people are already
00:38:12forced to feed them, because they say, there are no berries in the forest, we'd better
00:38:16feed them now so that they don't bother our children
00:38:19and don't hunt in the kindergarten, as the footage shows us,
00:38:23around the kindergarten, yes, the bear tries to get through the
00:38:26fence, there it is. And maybe it's worth restoring the fear of humans in
00:38:30bears, and arranging special feeders, their feeding places
00:38:33deep, deep in their habitats. Why feed
00:38:36them from your hands and teach them that humans are edible? This is a mistake, never
00:38:40feed a bear, just a second,
00:38:42sweetie,
00:38:45yes, while we're figuring out who is responsible for this bear
00:38:48behavior, stars, magnetic radiation, or
00:38:52Covid, excuse me, but we need to understand who is responsible for
00:38:56people's safety?
00:39:27Aren't you ashamed? Who is responsible for human
00:39:31lives? I will say in defense of Lisa that it is a very
00:39:34popular opinion that bears' lives are also worth something, and they need
00:39:38to be saved. Let's watch more videos that users post online.
00:40:27years, bears are starving, female bears migrate and lose
00:40:31their cubs,
00:40:32bear,
00:40:36how to find this balance between saving humans and saving bears,
00:40:39after all? And you know, first and foremost, I still adhere to the idea
00:40:43that everything should be in moderation, and I feel just as
00:40:46sorry for animals, but I also feel sorry for people who suffer from
00:40:50these animals. Let's watch the video. You,
00:40:53Ekaterina, know firsthand what a bear is. Look.
00:41:40Well, these videos get millions of views, Kat, but the
00:41:44animal rights activists don't come to you saying, what are you doing to the predator, so how will
00:41:47it be in nature after this? Let's start
00:41:51with the fact that the bear cubs shown in the video will
00:41:54never go into the wild. A bear that
00:41:57has contact with humans is not released into the wild, it
00:42:01remains to live in a rehabilitation center, where it is.
00:42:05This video was shot on the territory of the nature
00:42:07rehabilitation center. Children...
00:42:47and we scientists had to gather, make a decision, fortunately we were heard in the ministries.
00:42:51We finished with the wolf, now the same component, the green,
00:42:54is spreading some incomprehensible nonsense, which is incomprehensible. I say
00:42:58that it is necessary for the country to have a strategy
00:43:02for managing predator populations. This
00:43:05strategy will then allow us, on a scientific basis,
00:43:08to say: where there is a large number of synanthropic bears, and
00:43:12synanthropic bears are the most terrible, these are synanthropic bears that live next to
00:43:15humans, this is a potential. There are so many
00:43:19different scientific associations that identify the reasons
00:43:22why the bear did something wrong, but the problem
00:43:26is that while we are going to figure out if this is against
00:43:29us, politicians, this is against us, geneticists, this is against us,
00:43:33who, the bear comes to these people and
00:43:36specifically kills their surroundings.
00:44:47Alena, good evening, good evening. October 15th,
00:44:50yes, you will always remember this date, when the bear broke into the house. What
00:44:53happened? My grandmother was almost eaten
00:44:56by a bear in her own house. She was sleeping
00:45:00at that time, it was 1 AM. She
00:45:03woke up to the barking of her pet dogs. When she went
00:45:07to see who had arrived, these are real shots. This event,
00:45:10look, yes, the bear's visit, how it looks, yes,
00:45:13she saw a shadow in the window. He approached.
00:45:17At that moment, he hit the window with his paw, breaking it.
00:45:21She ran to the veranda, and stayed there
00:45:25until he left. And he acted as if
00:45:28he was a smart bear. He opened cupboards,
00:45:32refrigerators,
00:45:35he ate 10 kg of sugar, he scattered
00:45:38candies there. In the end, he climbed in through the window, and he also climbed
00:45:42in through the window. After he had wreaked havoc
00:45:45in the kitchen, he went into the
00:45:48room where, as she
00:45:51thinks, he saw himself in the mirror
00:45:55and ran away. So he was only scared of another bear, so to
00:45:59speak, himself in the mirror, he wasn't prepared for such a turn of events. The large mirror saved him. Now
00:46:03we'll see it, look, this is the mirror in which the
00:46:06bear saw himself, and judging by everything,
00:46:09that's why. He just ran away, but the supplies
00:46:11too, but she also assumes that
00:46:15he saw himself, otherwise he would have eaten her, she says. In the last
00:46:19program, residents of a whole village said that each of them had
00:46:22their own bear in the garden. How are they
00:46:26living now? Why are
00:46:29bears behaving inadequately this year? A sensational version, right after a short commercial,
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00:51:57This is "Let Them Talk," I am Dmitry Borisov, good evening everyone again. Less than a month ago, in the studio
00:52:01of our program, we discussed bears that seemed to have been reprogrammed.
00:52:05The statistics continue to grow: 70 attacks, 26
00:52:08dead. Now a shocking twist: during the autopsy of one of the
00:52:11bears, rabies was found, a deadly virus, from
00:52:15which there is no escape and which always kills all its
00:52:19victims. Has the riddle of the inexplicable aggression of predators
00:52:22been solved? How many rabid bears are still roaming free?
00:52:26Bears seem to have stopped recognizing the boundaries of the human world. They
00:52:30no longer limit themselves to raids on landfills and apiaries, they
00:52:33invade where humans were once in complete
00:52:36safety. But what made predators break the rules of the game?
00:52:40Scientists talk about an invisible connection between animals, about failures in natural
00:52:43instincts, and even possible external interference. And new
00:52:47eyewitness accounts only add fuel to the fire. Today
00:52:50in the studio of "Let Them Talk": the continuation of one of the most
00:52:53terrible stories of this invasion. Krasnoyarsk region.
00:52:56A bear appears near the house of a pensioner, who is later
00:52:59found dead. It is known that the beast broke into the house and dragged
00:53:03the pensioner out through the window. But now, for the first time, a woman who
00:53:07was only a few meters from the scene of the tragedy
00:53:10will tell about the events of that day. About three meters, probably, from
00:53:14that cabin, a body is lying,
00:53:17well, a little blood. Experts arrived. When
00:53:20this happened, on one side,
00:53:23there was bear fur, and on the other
00:53:27side, Lyudmila's hair. Death a few meters from
00:53:30her own home. What happened in the last minutes of the woman's life?
00:53:34Why didn't the bear retreat, and
00:53:38is it even possible to predict the actions of a predator who
00:53:41suddenly stopped fearing humans? Meanwhile, the country
00:53:44has split into two irreconcilable camps: some demand that dangerous
00:53:48animals be stopped immediately and at any cost, others are ready to defend
00:53:51them even after new reports of attacks. Disputes are raging online, bloggers cannot
00:53:55hold back tears upon learning of plans to shoot bears.
00:53:59Friends, the world has gone mad, I start crying immediately. Bears are going to be
00:54:02shot even in winter right in their dens, where bear cubs
00:54:05are. But while people argue who to save first,
00:54:08humans or beasts, bears
00:54:11continue to behave as if human homes have become part
00:54:15of their territory. Another story that sends shivers down your
00:54:19spine: a bear breaks the window of a residential house, the homeowner miraculously manages to
00:54:22hide on the veranda and avoid meeting the predator,
00:54:26and the beast does what was least expected of him, he doesn't just
00:54:30look for food, he seems to be auditing someone else's
00:54:33dwelling. She saw... who suggest
00:55:06that animals somehow acquire new knowledge and skills
00:55:10from each other, because in our studio, the incredible
00:55:13version of the so-called hundredth monkey effect has already been heard, as if
00:55:18there is an invisible communication channel between bears, through which
00:55:21new experience spreads. But while experts
00:55:24try to understand the behavior of predators, residents of the taiga regions
00:55:28of Russia learn to survive in a new reality. The village of
00:55:32Taizhina, Kuzbass. In the last episode, "Let Them Talk."
00:56:16Good evening, you were running away, it turns out, from that bear
00:56:20that was already coming to kill people, that's how it is,
00:56:24tell me, well, it was approximately the beginning
00:56:27of the tenth hour, I had a
00:56:30small dog in the kiosk, well, a small dog of a certain breed, so she
00:56:34barked.
00:57:17got tangled in the curtains, yes, in the end, it's unknown what this was, this is
00:57:21very close to the moment of that same
00:57:24tourist parking lot where later the bear went and mauled Snezhana
00:57:28Koroleva. The same day, from me, yes, he went and around
00:57:32the bowl he killed her. Most likely the same bear, according to descriptions, they say
00:57:35a black, black bear, the same one, similar to yours, right? So you
00:57:38think that most likely yours, no, well, here you were lucky that you have such a construction
00:57:42of this kiosk, right? Very strong, yes, it can withstand
00:57:46an attack in general. Well, not for long, well, yes, it will last for an
00:57:49hour, you're laughing, it won't last, if no, it's not about
00:57:52that. It's just that there was a provocation here, the dog provoked
00:57:56the bear, he rushed after it, not after the woman, he didn't need
00:57:59her. When she picked up the dog in her arms, he realized that his
00:58:03prey was being taken by another, so to speak, bear. That's why he
00:58:06provoked him. If there had been no dog, there would have been no provocation,
00:58:10he might not have approached the woman at all, and also the dog's side is
00:58:14usually indicators, that is, dogs often protect from...
01:00:17who was guarding the timber warehouse there, was mauled
01:00:20by a bear, despite the fact that, despite the fact
01:00:23that he was, it turned out, a dog, as it turned out. So,
01:00:27the bear went, then he jumped
01:00:30over the hill, and that is, in this way, the hunter was following
01:00:34the tracks of the dog that he had killed, he had mauled
01:00:37his dog, and he, so to speak, when he was following his tracks, that
01:00:41is, he left his tracks and jumped over the hill and thus ambushed him, that
01:00:45is, he, so to speak, tore his skull and he... couldn't even
01:00:49reach the wagoner, that is, this is how a person, but that's not the point. The point is that
01:00:53then, when they came after him the next day, they were stalking
01:00:57this bear, that is, armed, they were sitting, at exactly 12:00 at night, he
01:01:00jumped on this minibus, on the windshield, the two people who were in the front
01:01:04seat, they held this windshield with their hands and feet from the other
01:01:08side, it turns out, that is, when they realized that something needed
01:01:11to be done, that the bear could push through the windshield, that is, since they had a shotgun with
01:01:14a twelfth gauge, they slightly opened the door of the minibus, and his
01:01:18paw was already in the cabin, they shot
01:01:22the barrel of the twelfth gauge at this bear, then they
01:01:26left for the night and came back in the morning additionally, they took carbines
01:01:29and people and looked, this bear ran another 50 meters,
01:01:33and despite the fact that we hit his heart, that is, he still had enough strength to run 50
01:01:36meters, a super predator, simply, yes, I can also say
01:01:40from my own
01:01:42experience and from my history, that 10 years ago in the Katanga district,
01:01:46there were 1500... hunters, professionals, trappers, and
01:01:50today there are only 300 amateurs left,
01:01:53and let's say, when there was bear hunting in winter,
01:01:56it's forbidden now, it gave hunters
01:02:00the opportunity to earn money and regulate the population, that
01:02:03is, these bears. Today, this hunting is cancelled,
01:02:07each female bear, that is, gives birth to two or three bear
01:02:10cubs every year, and when he comes out, that is, after 2 years,
01:02:14she releases them into the wild, he must either defeat the bear
01:02:18that is in this territory, or take over his territory. If this does not
01:02:21happen, this year is the smallest cedar harvest in 5
01:02:25years, but a large harvest, that is, of bird cherry, sea buckthorn, and
01:02:28rowan berries, so the bear comes out...
01:03:30everywhere, they perfectly collect berries in our
01:03:34gardens, they collect apples well there, and if
01:03:37you bother them, then they, that is, you can somehow scare them away, but you know, it feels
01:03:41like they have stopped being afraid.
01:03:45He made himself a nice bed, he
01:03:48sleeps there, he dug up half the garden, you look at the
01:03:52trees, he rests there during the day, we already gave him the harvest,
01:03:55we generally don't go. I have a similar
01:03:59story. Each of us has our own bear, it's not the same
01:04:02bear, there are different bears at each
01:04:05dacha, so we already know when my bear is coming, from which
01:04:09side he is coming, the dogs bark, and I
01:04:12already pack up and leave the dacha. In addition, I have
01:04:16a metal door, well, a regular metal door,
01:04:20an entrance door, so it's all covered in claw
01:04:23marks. Marina Kazarkina is now joining
01:04:27us from her village.
01:04:30Hello, has anything changed since our
01:04:33meeting? Hello, each of us has our own
01:04:36bear, everything
01:04:38is the same.
01:04:40Well, no, of course, after your broadcast,
01:04:44we have seen some progress, albeit small, but
01:04:47progress. The Investigative Committee of Kemerovo
01:04:51Oblast has started an investigation, they
01:04:54declared an emergency
01:04:57situation,
01:04:59heightened. Thank God, they stopped turning off the lights at night
01:05:03to save electricity in the village. Lights are
01:05:06now on at night in the streets,
01:05:10but unfortunately, not the whole village. lit, the private
01:05:13sector we have is without light, and many people
01:05:16abandon their homes, rent apartments in the center of the village,
01:05:20because it's scary to walk from private sectors,
01:05:24but the specific bears that were talked about and that evicted
01:05:27your neighbors from their homes, have they at least... been somehow isolated,
01:05:31has the situation been resolved somehow? You know, there are fewer
01:05:34bears, to be honest, they, either they stopped
01:05:38coming out to people so brazenly, yes, there are fewer of them, but we also
01:05:42noticed that we have gamekeepers appearing, as if they
01:05:45walk, check, set up ambushes, well, they started
01:05:49to control it a little, thank goodness.
01:05:52Well, it's good that there's good news from there, we wish you
01:05:55that at some point when hibernation starts, you completely forget for a while
01:06:00at least about this invasion of bears, but again,
01:06:03this is not just a Russian story, it's a global story, Tager, these could be
01:06:07viruses or some kind of parasites after all, ah, of course,
01:06:10they could be, I wanted to comment on these three versions: biological weapons,
01:06:14viruses, magnetic field, we know many examples
01:06:17in biology when a parasite or virus changes
01:06:20behavior, often so that the animal stops
01:06:23fearing its predator, comes out to it, and the parasite can then spread along the food
01:06:27chain, but here... because of such
01:06:31a large-scale mass problem, I don't see that it's one isolated
01:06:35outbreak, yes, it's some kind of pandemic, as they say in panzate, that is,
01:06:38my friends from America also write to me, there are twice
01:06:42as many 911 calls about bear attacks, they are already breaking into
01:06:46cities, but there they have smaller guns, they are bigger, yes, it's easier for them, and
01:06:50the bears are a little different, in America there are many small bears,
01:06:53who are not such super predators, as you say, yes, here
01:06:56try to oppose something to him about biological.
01:07:12Look, before, I don't know, in the Middle Ages, they used to throw cow carcasses over walls with trebuchets, that's how they
01:07:15fought. Now we have genome editing technology, we have artificial intelligence that allows us to do all this quite accurately, so who knows what they are researching in all these
01:07:19secret laboratories around the world. And biological
01:07:22weapons are very easy to unleash, but they cannot be
01:07:25controlled afterward. That's a big problem, and
01:07:29there is...
01:08:12As soon as he recovers, we are waiting for him in our studio.
01:08:15To everyone, everyone have strength, if you
01:08:19suddenly live where there are bears, read again all
01:08:22the recommendations of specialists, they, I must say honestly,
01:08:25are different, but everyone who lives where there are
01:08:29bears should know them. The results of the day in the program Vremya, I am Dmitry Borisov, see you, let
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