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00:00:18BBC News. Democratic Congresswoman Congresswoman Haley Stevens endorses
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00:01:17Vandhna Bhan the US mid-term elections
00:01:20elections are just two days away.
00:01:22away. Millions of voters across the the country will determine the balance
00:01:26balance of power in Congress. And And while the Democrats are widely
00:01:29widely predicted to flip the House House of Representatives, the Senate
00:01:32Senate is still up for grabs. Candidates
00:01:35Candidates in battleground states states like Texas and Michigan are
00:01:38are making the final push to voters voters in the hopes of swaying Tuesday's
00:01:42Tuesday's results. Now these are are live
00:01:48Live pictures from Kansas, where President Trump is continuing continuing his months long campaign campaign blitz for Republicans ahead
00:01:52ahead of polling day. The party got
00:01:53got an unexpected last minute boost
00:01:56boost in a critical US Senate race.
00:02:00race. Now in Michigan, Democratic Democratic Congresswoman Haley Stevens
00:02:04Stevens broke with her party by endorsing
00:02:06endorsing Republican Senate candidate candidate Mike Rogers. It follows
00:02:09follows a rift with her fellow Democrat
00:02:11Democrat and nominee for Senate Abdul
00:02:14Abdul El-Sayed, who defeated her her in the primary. Stevens criticised
00:02:18criticised him over a political ad ad by an outside group, blaming Israel
00:02:22Israel for high grocery prices. Stevens
00:02:24Stevens then appeared with Rogers Rogers on the campaign trail. Where
00:02:28Where she explained a little more more of why her support has shifted.
00:02:31shifted. My vote for Senate is going going to be with Mike Rogers, and
00:02:35and I will tell you why because we
00:02:38we have to stand with country. We
00:02:41We can't stand with hate. And I'm
00:02:43I'm sorry people are upset and I
00:02:45I understand that I did endorse the the Democratic nominee and he chose
00:02:49chose to close this campaign by saying saying I wasn't welcome. I've never
00:02:53never been invited to a campaign campaign event. That's fine. You You know, he's busy. He's running
00:02:56running all around. I've had primaries primaries before myself. It's not
00:02:59not about that. It's this is about
00:03:02about leadership and integrity. President President Trump praised Stevens for
00:03:06for her decision to endorse Rogers,
00:03:09Rogers, saying he would welcome her
00:03:11her to the Republican Party. Al Sayed, Sayed, meanwhile, called the endorsement
00:03:14endorsement a distraction and spoke spoke out against his former primary
00:03:18primary challenger. So look, if you're you're somebody who believes that
00:03:21that we ought to have more rights, rights, not less than I would think
00:03:24think you would support me in this this race. If you are somebody who
00:03:27who believes that we should stand stand up to hate, and you have watched
00:03:30watched this last campaign, I think think we probably would not want
00:03:33want to support Mike Rogers and Donald
00:03:34Donald Trump and JD Vance. Our North
00:03:37North America correspondent Nada Nada Tawfik was at Al-Sayed's rally
00:03:40rally in Michigan. We have been speaking speaking with voters all day long
00:03:44long who were just as stunned by
00:03:46by this move. By Haley Stevens, who,
00:03:49who, remember, was running in the the primary to take on Mike Rogers
00:03:53Rogers before she lost to Mr El-Sayed.
00:03:57El-Sayed. Voters very much see this
00:03:59this as a disappointment, as a distraction
00:04:02distraction ahead of, you know, a a few days before the election when
00:04:05when this is such a critical seat seat for Democrats in their fight
00:04:09fight to retake the Senate. They They believe that this is a betrayal
00:04:12betrayal of the Democratic Party
00:04:14Party that Haley Stevens has abandoned
00:04:17abandoned or her core kind of beliefs
00:04:19beliefs as a Democrat. And we have
00:04:21have seen a flurry of reaction from
00:04:24from top Democrats, not just in Michigan
00:04:27Michigan but in Washington as well. well. The Democratic leader, Chuck
00:04:30Chuck Schumer in the Senate, also also trying to portray the party
00:04:34party as united. And we have heard
00:04:36heard from Haley Stevens own staff, staff, including her chief of staff,
00:04:39staff, who said that many have resigned
00:04:42resigned because they don't want want to see this sowing of discord
00:04:46discord right before the election. election. Now, on the state of Texas,
00:04:49Texas, more than half $1 billion billion has been spent on advertising
00:04:53advertising alone, making it the
00:04:55the most expensive non-presidential non-presidential race in American
00:04:58American history. Democrat James James Talarico and Republican Ken
00:05:01Ken Paxton are in a race that's too
00:05:04too close to call. Well, let's bring bring in our correspondent in Washington,
00:05:07Washington, Will Grant. Well, this this is the most expensive political
00:05:11political campaign in US history history aside from presidential ones.
00:05:14ones. I mean, how significant is is it for the Republicans? What would
00:05:18would it mean if they actually lost
00:05:22lost Texas? It would be huge. It's
00:05:24It's you know, it's been decades decades since there's been a Democratic
00:05:28Democratic senator in Texas. It's It's such a vital state. And I think
00:05:32think what makes it so important important is that what it would tell
00:05:35tell us if there was a Democratic Democratic senator out of Texas for
00:05:38for the rest of the races, particularly,
00:05:41particularly, you know, looking at at President Trump's dwindling popularity
00:05:45popularity at the moment, the importance importance of the Latino vote, obviously,
00:05:49obviously, in a state like Texas
00:05:51Texas where people are reacting against against a number of things. First
00:05:55First and foremost, of course, the
00:05:56the cost of living that's a an issue
00:06:01issue across the nation. It has resonance, resonance, particularly in Texas,
00:06:04Texas, particularly in rural states
00:06:06states where the war with Iran is is pushing up the cost, obviously,
00:06:10obviously, of fuel, but also the
00:06:12the cost of fertiliser. You know,
00:06:14know, other products, oil based products products are all rising. And of course,
00:06:17course, the cost of living in terms terms of filling up your car with
00:06:21with gas. So these are the things
00:06:23things that if it does swing to a
00:06:26a Democratic senator out of Texas,
00:06:29Texas, you know, an almost unthinkable
00:06:31unthinkable prospect for the Republican Republican Party in many ways, it
00:06:35it really is an it would be an indication
00:06:38indication of where the night will will be heading or where the race
00:06:41race will be heading more broadly. broadly. All right, Will Grant, thank
00:06:44thank you for getting us across those
00:06:47those details. Now, Ohio, a state
00:06:49state President Trump won by 11 points
00:06:52points in 2024, is now a toss up. up. Republican incumbent Senator
00:06:56Senator Jon Husted is in a neck and
00:06:57and neck race with former three term
00:07:00term senator Democrat Sherrod Brown.
00:07:01Brown. The outcome of this race could
00:07:04could determine who has control of of Congress. My colleague Amanda
00:07:08Amanda Walker has been speaking with with Mr Husted ahead of the vote.
00:07:11vote. First of all, people are really really crying out for the cost of
00:07:15of living to start going down. They They were promised that in 2024.
00:07:182024. It hasn't happened. What steps steps would you take to lower costs
00:07:21costs for working families if you
00:07:23you win? Yeah, look under Joe Biden,
00:07:26Biden, the inflation rate reached
00:07:28reached 9%. Gas was $5 a gallon. gallon. It's come down but not far
00:07:32far enough. The bottom line is is is that you have to create the supply
00:07:36supply to meet demand. What happened happened with some of the radical
00:07:39radical environmental policies of of the past is that closed down pipelines,
00:07:42pipelines, refineries and power plants. plants. And so we don't have enough enough supply to meet demand. In
00:07:46In my own state of Ohio. We used
00:07:48used to be a net electricity exporter.
00:07:51exporter. Now we're a net electricity electricity importer and that has has driven up prices, which make
00:07:55make it harder for people to pay pay their bills and make ends meet.
00:07:58meet. So we've got to we've got to to increase the supply to meet the
00:08:01the demands. We can lower those prices. prices. And I have lots of plans
00:08:04plans to be able to do that. We also also need to let people keep more
00:08:07more of what they earn to spend and and save on their priorities. That's That's what the working family tax
00:08:11tax cut was about. No taxes on tips, tips, overtime or social security.
00:08:14security. All of those things help help people pay the bills at the the end of the week. And as most
00:08:18most voters see it, the biggest reason reason for the rise in gas prices prices in particular is, of course,
00:08:22course, the Iran war. It's hard to to bring down any prices while that's
00:08:25that's still going on. You've called called for a swift end to it, but
00:08:28but you also voted against ending
00:08:29ending it. Why? Well, I want the
00:08:33the war to come to an end, but I I don't want it to come to an end
00:08:36end on Iran's terms. I want it to to come to an end on reasonable terms
00:08:39terms that America can agree to. to. They can't have a nuclear weapon
00:08:42weapon and they can't control the the Strait of Hormuz. If that is
00:08:45is the case, then prices will never never come down. But that's going
00:08:49going to be temporary. The war will will come to an end soon. We will
00:08:51will get new oil in America and into into the market from Venezuela. That
00:08:55That will help drive down prices. But wouldn't that vote? How How do we deal with the most effective
00:08:59effective way we got to deal with with the long-term? The long-term
00:09:01long-term problem is, is that we we have pipelines that have been
00:09:05been shut down, refineries have been been shut down, power plants have
00:09:07have been shut down. Those are part part of the Democrats agenda, not
00:09:11not my agenda. And if we can build build that supply to meet demand,
00:09:14demand, we will lower prices of all all the things that people need to
00:09:17to live and thrive. But as many voters voters see it, Senator, you broke
00:09:19broke with President Trump in words words but not with actions. Has that
00:09:23that contradiction been a challenge challenge for you on the campaign campaign trail? We know that voters
00:09:27voters do not like this war. Yeah,
00:09:30Yeah, and I don't I want it to come come to an end too. I agree with
00:09:33with him, but it is a vote doesn't doesn't get it done. A peace deal
00:09:36deal gets it done and that has to to come together. When Iran understands
00:09:40understands that it has no other other options, its economy is failing.
00:09:43failing. Its military is it is failed.
00:09:46failed. Their navy is at the bottom bottom of the ocean and they need need to come to an agreement and
00:09:50and they will. I'm quite confident confident they will soon after the
00:09:53the election is over and that will will help because this is temporary.
00:09:55temporary. We'll drive down these these prices, but the permanent issues,
00:09:58issues, that's what you're electing electing people also to deal with. with. And if you don't have pipelines,
00:10:02pipelines, you don't have power plants, plants, you don't have refineries, refineries, then you're going to
00:10:06to have higher prices. I want to to build all of those things and and make it easier to build those
00:10:10those things so we can drive down down the cost of living for people people in America. There has been
00:10:13been lots of talk of more strikes strikes after the midterm elections.
00:10:17elections. Do you support that idea?
00:10:19idea? I support bringing the war
00:10:21war to an end and having a good deal
00:10:24deal between America and Iran and
00:10:25and for the world so that we have have peace, a peaceful way forward
00:10:29forward in the Strait of Hormuz with with Iran, and that they don't have
00:10:32have a nuclear weapon. But do you you support more strikes? The tactical
00:10:36tactical aspects of that? I of course, course, as a senator, I'm not involved
00:10:39involved in that is up to the administration. administration. This administration
00:10:43administration is going to be up up there whether no matter what the the outcome of the midterm election
00:10:46election is, President Trump's in in his final term, and we need to
00:10:49to get a deal done with Iran. And
00:10:52And I hope I hope also in the Ukraine Ukraine and with Russia, because
00:10:56because that is also a problem for
00:10:58for diesel prices in particular,
00:11:00particular, that that war is also also impacting the cost of living
00:11:03living for people around the world.
00:11:05world. OK, let's talk Ohio data centres
00:11:08centres have been a contentious issue issue throughout the country, and
00:11:11and especially in Ohio. As lieutenant lieutenant governor, you've been
00:11:14been responsible for attracting a a lot of that business to the state.
00:11:17state. Ohio, now ranked one of the the top states in the country to
00:11:20to do business. So big investments investments and jobs. Yet we know
00:11:23know that data centres are very unpopular unpopular among voters because of
00:11:26of energy costs, water usage, local local quality of life. How do you
00:11:30you plan to bridge that very real
00:11:33real divide? Well, it's a local decision. decision. The federal government
00:11:36government shouldn't be telling a a local community whether they have have a data centre or not. It's up
00:11:40up to them. If they want one, great. great. If they don't, then they shouldn't shouldn't have to have one. What
00:11:43What the federal government can do do is hold them accountable for energy energy prices. That's why I sponsored
00:11:47sponsored the Ratepayer Protection Protection Act to force data centres
00:11:49centres to pay for their own electric
00:11:53electric generation and infrastructure. infrastructure. And that's very popular.
00:11:55popular. It passed the House of Representatives, Representatives, but Senate Democrats
00:11:58Democrats blocked it. Chuck Schumer Schumer at the behest of Sherrod Sherrod Brown, blocked my legislation
00:12:02legislation or we would have that that done today. We would be holding
00:12:05holding data centres accountable. accountable. But the Democrats haven't
00:12:08haven't let us do that. They talk talk about affordability. They don't
00:12:10don't want to do anything about affordability. affordability. That's how you address address the issues surrounding data
00:12:14data centres. OK. President Trump
00:12:17Trump has a fixation with you that that has been a talking point of
00:12:20of these midterms. It's attracted attracted a lot of attention, even even been referenced on Saturday
00:12:24Saturday Night Live. Has that attention attention been a help or a hindrance
00:12:28hindrance to your campaign? Oh, you
00:12:30you know what? It's given us a few
00:12:33few chuckles as we've run a very very competitive campaign. My wife
00:12:36wife and I have a great sense of
00:12:38of humour, but I feel a renewed responsibility responsibility to spend more time
00:12:41time working out so I can keep up up my reputation. But president's
00:12:44president's been campaigning hard hard for us and you know, you have
00:12:48have to have a few laughs along the
00:12:50the way in a bitter campaign. And And as former Secretary of State,
00:12:54State, you have, of course been on on the front lines of election security,
00:12:57security, which President Trump has has repeatedly been calling into
00:13:00into question. Will you accept the
00:13:03the outcome of the election regardless
00:13:05regardless of who wins? Well, I created
00:13:07created the election system in Ohio Ohio where it's easy to vote and
00:13:10and hard to cheat. And I think we
00:13:13we run great elections in Ohio, and and I expect that they will be run
00:13:16run well and that we will embrace embrace the outcome no matter what
00:13:19what that is. And if Donald Trump Trump challenges the integrity of
00:13:22of results in Ohio or elsewhere, elsewhere, will you speak out? I'm
00:13:25I'm going to speak. I'm going to to speak for myself, not for anybody
00:13:27anybody else. I believe in Ohio elections.
00:13:30elections. Now. The BBC reached out
00:13:33out to Ohio's Democratic candidate
00:13:35candidate for Senate, Sherrod Brown. Brown. However, he declined to be
00:13:39be interviewed. Now we'll be bringing bringing you more after a short break,
00:13:42break, including an apparent hacking hacking attack which Ukraine says
00:13:46says has compromised its air alert alert app
00:14:48gains. Follow our coverage right
00:14:50right here on BBC News. Live with
00:15:00with BBC News. The Ukrainian Air Air Force has said its air alert
00:15:03alert app is likely to have been
00:15:06been compromised in an apparent hacking hacking attack on Sunday evening.
00:15:09evening. Many Ukrainians using the
00:15:10the app received false notifications
00:15:14notifications about a radiological radiological threat, a chemical attack
00:15:16attack and even a message about possible
00:15:18possible street fighting in Kyiv. Kyiv. The authorities say functionality
00:15:21functionality in the app is gradually
00:15:24gradually being restored. Meanwhile, Meanwhile, on Monday, Russia's Ministry
00:15:27Ministry of Emergency Situation said
00:15:29said its mobile app had been subjected
00:15:31subjected to what it called a massive massive cyber attack. It said this
00:15:35this had resulted in the distribution distribution of fake information
00:15:38information to the public, and that that work was under way to fix the
00:15:42the vulnerability. Well, let's get get more on this with Herbert Lin,
00:15:45Lin, a senior research scholar for
00:15:46for cyber policy and security at
00:15:49at Stanford University. Herbert previously
00:15:51previously served on President Obama's
00:15:54Obama's Commission on Enhancing National National cyber security. Really great
00:15:57great to be able to get your thoughts thoughts on this, Herbert. I mean,
00:15:59mean, first of all, how concerning concerning is this kind of attack?
00:16:03attack? What was the motive behind
00:16:04behind it? Well, apparently it was
00:16:08was used just to distribute false
00:16:12false messages to the Ukrainian public
00:16:15public to, you know, disturb them. them. I mean, the information was
00:16:19was false. And if you took it literally,
00:16:22literally, it would be upsetting upsetting and, you know, concerning
00:16:24concerning and, you know, and perhaps
00:16:28perhaps life threatening. But I think
00:16:29think that the Iranians sorry, the
00:16:32the Ukrainians are really quite familiar
00:16:35familiar with this. And so my guess
00:16:37guess is that in the long run, it
00:16:41it didn't have much impact. And the the Ukrainian government corrected
00:16:45corrected it pretty quickly. Given Given I mean, talking about the attack
00:16:48attack itself, given the sophistication sophistication required to carry
00:16:51carry out such cyber attacks. I mean, mean, what does this tell us about
00:16:54about the evolution of Russian cyber
00:16:58cyber operations in this war? Well,
00:17:00Well, Russia has conducted a variety
00:17:02variety of cyber operations against against Ukraine during the war since
00:17:05since it started and before, you
00:17:08you know, for it's had cyber operations
00:17:11operations against Ukraine for a
00:17:12a very long time. This particular
00:17:16particular hack doesn't seem to me
00:17:17me to be out of the ordinary in the
00:17:20the sense that it is a you know, know, it's a serious hack. It you
00:17:23you know, it compromises an important
00:17:26important channel for communicating communicating with the Ukrainian
00:17:29Ukrainian public. But you have to
00:17:32to expect that good hackers, which which the Russians are, will get
00:17:36get in every now and then and will will do their you know, their nasty
00:17:40nasty things. So this is you know,
00:17:43know, this is concerning. And I think think it's the first time that this
00:17:46this has happened to an official
00:17:50official Ukrainian information app.
00:17:53app. But I suspect it won't be the the last. Are they getting more sophisticated.
00:17:57sophisticated. Well, somewhat. We We don't know how they did it. Maybe
00:18:01Maybe they used tools from AI and and so on. And maybe they will in
00:18:05in the future be able to do it more. more. But we don't we just don't
00:18:09don't know that yet. Herbert. Globally, Globally, how vulnerable are these
00:18:12these sort of government apps to
00:18:13to this exact kind of hostile hijacking?
00:18:18hijacking? Well, all all computer computer programmes have bugs in
00:18:20in them. And what the AI does is
00:18:25is it gives gives you better ways
00:18:27ways of compromising them more rapidly rapidly so that you can attack them
00:18:31them more quickly. So right now it's
00:18:34it's all a the AI is definitely a
00:18:39a plus for the attacker in the long long run. Will it become is is it
00:18:43it a plus for the attacker? Well Well I think it is. But will time
00:18:46time will tell on that. But it's it's certainly right now a plus for
00:18:49for the attacker. All right. Herbert Herbert Lom really appreciate getting
00:18:52getting your analysis there. Senior Senior research scholar for cyber
00:18:54cyber policy and security at Stanford Stanford University. Well let's take
00:18:58take a look at some other stories
00:19:01stories in the news. Heavily armed armed Australian police officers
00:19:04officers have started patrolling patrolling the streets of Sydney
00:19:07Sydney in response to last year's year's deadly attack on Bondi Beach.
00:19:10Beach. The Armed Response Command
00:19:12Command was established after gunmen
00:19:14gunmen killed 15 people during celebrations celebrations for the Jewish Festival
00:19:18Festival of Hanukkah. More than 200 200 officers are part of the specialist
00:19:21specialist unit. New South Wales
00:19:23Wales Police say the aim is to deter,
00:19:25deter, prevent and respond to serious serious armed threats while reassuring
00:19:29reassuring the public. In Bulgaria, Bulgaria, the pro-Kremlin presidential
00:19:33presidential candidate, Iliana Litova, Litova, has won the country's run
00:19:36run off election. The Bulgarian presidency presidency is largely ceremonial.
00:19:39ceremonial. Miss Litova, who favours favours dialogue with Russia and
00:19:43and opposes military aid to Ukraine, Ukraine, will become Bulgaria's first
00:19:47first elected female head of state.
00:19:50state. Now Buckingham Palace says
00:19:52says King Charles will speak about
00:19:55about slavery with unflinching honesty honesty and sincere sorrow when he
00:19:59he addresses the Commonwealth Leaders
00:20:00Leaders Summit in Antigua on Tuesday. Tuesday. The King is starting three
00:20:04three days of formal engagements engagements there as part of a wider
00:20:08wider tour of the Caribbean. It's It's understood his speech won't won't be affected by comments made
00:20:12made by the UK Prime Minister, Andy Andy Burnham, raising the possibility
00:20:16possibility of a formal apology for for Britain's role in the transatlantic
00:20:20transatlantic slave trade. The British British government has never made
00:20:22made a formal apology for slavery
00:20:24slavery or offered to pay reparations.
00:20:27reparations. Here's our political political correspondent Joe Pike.
00:20:31Pike. Throughout his Caribbean tour, tour, the King has acknowledged slavery's
00:20:34slavery's place in the history of
00:20:36of these islands. The Caribbean community
00:20:38community have a ten-point plan for for reparations, including investment
00:20:42investment in education and public public health. But Andy Burnham has
00:20:45has ruled out anything financial. financial. The Chancellor explained
00:20:48explained his boss's thinking. The The Prime Minister has said look,
00:20:52look, we are open to a discussion
00:20:54discussion about an apology. He feels feels that that's the right thing,
00:20:58thing, particularly ahead of the the Commonwealth Leaders Conference.
00:21:01Conference. But he doesn't believe believe that reparations are the
00:21:04the right approach and considering considering a formal apology doesn't
00:21:07doesn't mean accepting that British British people now should accept
00:21:10accept the financial liability for
00:21:12for any party. In things that happened happened hundreds of years ago in
00:21:15in which they had no role. For the the Conservatives, even the offer
00:21:19offer of an apology is navel gazing
00:21:22gazing and a distraction. It is time time for the Commonwealth to start
00:21:25start looking forwards, not endlessly endlessly backwards. And why now?
00:21:28now? Why not in the 60s, 70s, 80s? 80s? Why are we - why are we having
00:21:31having this conversation today? What What is it? Because lots of Commonwealth Commonwealth leaders are asking for
00:21:35for it? Yes, that's what I mean. mean. Why are they asking for. It
00:21:39It now? It is because many of these these countries are struggling with
00:21:42with the same issues that we are are struggling with. They're not not becoming richer. They don't know
00:21:45know what to do. So they want to to ask Britain for more money. My
00:21:48My answer is no. We should not even
00:21:50even be entertaining the idea of
00:21:53of reparations. In Antigua, where
00:21:55where Andy Burnham will arrive tomorrow.
00:21:57tomorrow. Views on an official apology
00:21:59apology are mixed. If someone is is apologising, I mean they've done
00:22:03done something wrong and if they've
00:22:05they've done wrong, apology is a a good start. No, I don't think the
00:22:09the UK should apologise for anything anything because the slave trade
00:22:12trade has happened years ago and and what's in the past should stay
00:22:14stay in the past and people should should learn from the past and not
00:22:17not try to live in the past. The
00:22:20The King will address the Commonwealth Commonwealth Heads of Government Government on Tuesday. A message
00:22:24message of unflinching honesty and
00:22:26and sincere sorrow is expected to
00:22:29to feature in that speech. Joe Pike, Pike, BBC News. Well, let's get more
00:22:33more on this with Bert Samuels, deputy deputy chairman of Jamaica's National
00:22:37National Council on Reparations. Reparations. He was part of the legal legal team that helped formulate
00:22:40formulate and file Jamaica's recent recent petition to King Charles regarding
00:22:44regarding Britain's role in the transatlantic
00:22:47transatlantic slave trade and demands demands for reparations. Great to
00:22:50to be able to speak with you here, here, Bert. I mean, look, King Charles
00:22:53Charles has had quite a warm welcome welcome to the Caribbean last week.
00:22:56week. He's due to speak in Antigua
00:22:58Antigua this week at this conference. conference. What are we expecting
00:23:01expecting there? He's saying that that he's coming with unflinching
00:23:05unflinching sorrow but refusing an
00:23:07an apology, let alone reparations.
00:23:10reparations. Well, the journey has has been years. It has been decades.
00:23:13decades. And the fact that Cameron
00:23:16Cameron came to Jamaica in 2015 and
00:23:18and said that we shouldn't peer into into the past and refuse to even
00:23:22even entertain a question of an apology.
00:23:25apology. This is a shift that history
00:23:27history has pushed the entire conversation conversation into this position because
00:23:31because we all have a shared history.
00:23:33history. We have. Repairing is a
00:23:35a continuing harm from slavery, and and I expect that the pressure that
00:23:39that has come to bear, not to rule rule out the fact that in March of
00:23:42of this year, the Ghanaian resolution
00:23:46resolution categorised the transatlantic transatlantic chattel slavery as
00:23:49as the worst crime against humanity
00:23:50humanity in recorded history. So
00:23:53So there's there is a tide that cannot cannot be resisted that that the
00:23:57the King must be responding to at
00:23:59at this time. How much pressure are are we are you by yourself and other
00:24:03other Caribbean leaders putting on on the King? And do you think that that Caribbean leaders are united
00:24:07united in what they want from the
00:24:08the King here? Well, the Caribbean
00:24:12Caribbean leaders, part of the what
00:24:15what you're saying the Commonwealth, Commonwealth, we all have a shared
00:24:18shared history and it doesn't mean mean that the consequences are erased
00:24:22erased because we are now all independent independent nation. It has not erase
00:24:26erase the consequences of our past. past. It's a continuing harm that
00:24:29that has visited the Caribbean and
00:24:32and the 1st of August 1838, we walked
00:24:34walked off the plantation in the
00:24:37the Caribbean without 100% unemployment unemployment and we were not compensated.
00:24:41compensated. The planters got £20
00:24:44£20 million in 1838, which British
00:24:46British taxpayers paid off in 2015
00:24:492015 so that continuing payment means means that it is not centuries old.
00:24:53old. The British taxpayers had to
00:24:54to be paying up to 11 years
00:24:58ago. But there is criticism from from people in the Caribbean as well well that the nation is on the front
00:25:02front lines of climate change. Countries Countries are facing severe economic
00:25:05economic pressure. Does pursuing
00:25:07pursuing a historical claim complement
00:25:10complement or actually hinder those
00:25:12those challenges in itself? No. I I think that the climate justice
00:25:15justice is real. We have not the the Third World and Caribbean countries
00:25:19countries have not been responsible responsible for climate change. And
00:25:22And we saw the worst hurricane in
00:25:25in recorded history in Jamaica last last year. Hurricane Melissa, which
00:25:29which is just a year and three days days old in terms of its anniversary.
00:25:33anniversary. So we're saying that
00:25:34that the devastation of that hurricane
00:25:37hurricane has made our vulnerability vulnerability exposed and we are
00:25:41are not responsible for climate change. change. So climate justice is a huge
00:25:44huge part, but we should not leave
00:25:46leave out the fact that the British British Museum has 800 artefacts
00:25:49artefacts belonging to Jamaica. So So part of it is not a payment. It
00:25:52It is to return and repatriate our
00:25:55our artefacts. But I really appreciate appreciate you taking our time to
00:25:59to take us through all of that. Bert Bert Samuels, deputy chairman of
00:26:02of Jamaica's National Council on on Reparations. That's it from Newsday.
00:27:36sunny and very warm. Take care.
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