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00:00:13Live from London. This is BBC
00:00:15News just one day to the midterm midterm elections with a last-minute
00:00:19last-minute twist in Michigan's Senate Senate race as a prominent Democrat
00:00:22Democrat announces her support for
00:00:24for the Republican candidate. Ukraine
00:00:26Ukraine and Russia's alert apps are are hit by a cyber attack. Ukrainians
00:00:30Ukrainians get false notifications notifications about chemical attacks
00:00:33attacks and Street fighting in Kyiv. Kyiv. Russia resumes its attacks
00:00:37attacks in the Kherson region after after the longest ceasefire of the
00:00:40the war ends in the Ukrainian city city of Oleshky. Hundreds do manage
00:00:43manage to get out. A business jet
00:00:46jet has crashed over a neighbourhood
00:00:49neighbourhood in Florida, killing
00:00:50killing all nine people on board.
00:00:53board. And Italian driver Kimi Antonelli Antonelli makes history in Mexico.
00:00:56Mexico. He has become Formula One's
00:00:59One's youngest ever world champion champion at just 20. It's incredible.
00:01:02incredible. You know, it's a dream dream that I've had since I was since
00:01:05since I was a kid. And to finally
00:01:07finally achieve it is is really special.
00:01:09special. And this is a this has to to be a new starting point as well
00:01:12well for me. You know. Hello, I'm
00:01:24I'm Lucy Hockings, welcome to BBC BBC News Now final rallies are being
00:01:27being held across the US with the
00:01:28the midterm elections just one day
00:01:31day away. Let's show you the scene. scene. Live in Washington right now.
00:01:35now. Tomorrow, millions of voters voters across the country will determine
00:01:38determine the balance of power in in Congress. The Democratic Party
00:01:42Party has high expectations as it
00:01:44it heads into these pivotal elections elections with confidence pretty
00:01:47pretty high at the moment because because it's widely predicted that
00:01:50that the Democrats will flip the the House of Representatives. The
00:01:53The Senate, though still very much much up for grabs. Democratic candidates
00:01:57candidates lead in well over 218 218 seats needed to change control
00:02:00control of the lower chamber of Congress. Congress. The House of Representatives.
00:02:04Representatives. That's the latest latest from the polling. And they
00:02:07they are tied or narrowly ahead in in the key Senate races. There has
00:02:11has been a last-minute twist, though, though, in a key Senate race with
00:02:14with the loser of Michigan's Democratic
00:02:16Democratic primary, the representative representative Haley Stevens, endorsing
00:02:20endorsing the Republican nominee, nominee, Mike Rogers, instead of
00:02:23of her own party's candidate Abdul Abdul El-Sayed. This comes after
00:02:27after a public feud between Miss
00:02:29Miss Stevens and Mr El-Sayed about about Israel, which led to the cancellation
00:02:33cancellation of public appearances appearances together just days before
00:02:37before the election. Well, latest latest polls do put the Democrats
00:02:40Democrats ahead of the Republicans Republicans in Michigan. It is one
00:02:42one of the most important Senate
00:02:44Senate races this year. So let's
00:02:47let's take you to Bradley Blackburn, Blackburn, CBS correspondent, who
00:02:51who is watching these elections so so closely for us. Tell us a bit
00:02:54bit more about the significance of
00:02:56of what's going on in Michigan. Bradley.
00:03:00Bradley. Well, Lucy, we often talk talk about October surprises in US
00:03:04US politics. This was a November November surprise out of Michigan
00:03:08Michigan that has all of Washington Washington talking this morning sometime
00:03:11sometime between Halloween night
00:03:13night on the 31st and Sunday Morning
00:03:16Morning Haley Stevens the Democratic Democratic congresswoman from Michigan
00:03:20Michigan changed her position. She She had given her support to her
00:03:23her former primary opponent, Abdul
00:03:26Abdul El-Sayed, and she instead said said that she will now back the Republican
00:03:30Republican candidate in that critical critical Senate race. She was asked
00:03:33asked in an interview on CNN last
00:03:35last night about her reasoning for for this decision. She did not provide
00:03:39provide many details, but she said said that she had had time to think
00:03:43think and she came to this conclusion. conclusion. She is following her
00:03:46her heart. We also know that she she is set to leave Congress in just
00:03:49just two months. But the question
00:03:51question now is how much of an impact
00:03:53impact will this have on the race
00:03:55race if people who were supporting supporting her in the primary potentially
00:03:59potentially change their votes? We We know that the balance of power
00:04:02power in the US Senate potentially potentially hangs in the balance
00:04:04balance here. Absolutely. It's one one to watch and certainly given
00:04:08given some drama in these final hours
00:04:10hours as well. Bradley but what about about the situation in Alaska? Explain
00:04:14Explain to us what's happening there.
00:04:19there. Alaska is interesting. It It is another toss up state here
00:04:22here that the Democrats are hoping
00:04:24hoping to win the Department of Justice Justice here in Washington. Lucy
00:04:28Lucy is promising to appeal after
00:04:30after a judge dismissed a lawsuit lawsuit that they filed seeking to
00:04:34to potentially delay the certification certification of the results of the
00:04:37the Alaska Senate race. The Alaska
00:04:39Alaska Senate race. If the Republican Republican candidate in that race,
00:04:43race, Dan Sullivan, loses. What's What's interesting here is the controversy
00:04:46controversy in this race centres centres on an independent candidate
00:04:49candidate who is also on the ballot,
00:04:50ballot, also named Dan Sullivan,
00:04:53Sullivan, the New York Times had had reported that the Democratic
00:04:56Democratic candidate in this race, race, Mary Peltola, her campaign
00:05:00campaign had recruited this independent independent to potentially confuse
00:05:03confuse voters when they looked at at the ballot. That is a claim that
00:05:06that Peltola has denied Lucy. But But there are a lot of eyes on this
00:05:10this race to see which way it goes.
00:05:12goes. And big picture, Bradley, how
00:05:14how much is this election being seen seen as a bit of a referendum on
00:05:18on President Trump, given where his
00:05:19his approval ratings are at at the
00:05:23the moment as well? Well, Lucy, President President Trump has turned it into
00:05:27into a referendum. He has told voters voters as he's been campaigning around
00:05:31around the country to think that that his name is on the ballot here.
00:05:34here. But that comes, as you say,
00:05:36say, as his approval ratings have have sunk to the lowest levels at
00:05:40at any point in either of his presidencies,
00:05:42presidencies, according to some measures. measures. And so he's been campaigning
00:05:46campaigning in Republican stronghold stronghold states like Texas that
00:05:49that he won comfortably, where the the Democratic candidate could be
00:05:52be a lock for Senate. So, you know,
00:05:55know, the big question is whether whether voters that are showing up
00:05:58up for these midterms will punish punish Republican candidates because
00:06:01because of their dissatisfaction dissatisfaction with President Trump. Trump. Great to see you as always,
00:06:04always, Bradley. Thank you so much. much. Bradley, referring to some
00:06:07some of those key states there. Well,
00:06:09Well, let's take you right to those
00:06:11those places that are so crucial crucial in this election because because our correspondents are on
00:06:15on the ground for you, looking at at different key issues that could
00:06:18could impact the outcome of the election. election. Let's begin with Clive
00:06:21Clive Myrie in North Carolina. It's
00:06:24It's quite astonishing that a place place like North Carolina could send
00:06:27send a Democrat senator back to Washington Washington for the first time in
00:06:31in almost 20 years. The Republicans Republicans have ruled the roost
00:06:35roost here, but they're in trouble trouble in these elections. Many
00:06:38Many we've spoken to say the economy economy is their big concern, and
00:06:41and the cost of living is simply simply too high. We found a two mile
00:06:45mile long queue of people trying
00:06:47trying to get help from a food bank. bank. Farmers here say they're angry
00:06:51angry about tariffs and trade policy,
00:06:53policy, though some maintain they'll they'll stick with the Republicans.
00:06:56Republicans. The Democrats are confident
00:06:58confident they can win and if they they do, that could spell big trouble
00:07:02trouble in Washington for Donald Donald Trump. This state is shaping
00:07:06shaping up to be one of the most
00:07:08most consequential contests in these these elections. I'm in Texas, where
00:07:12where the battle for a single Senate Senate seat could end up deciding
00:07:15deciding who controls Congress. More
00:07:18More than half $1 billion has been been spent on advertising alone,
00:07:21alone, making it the most expensive
00:07:23expensive non-presidential race in
00:07:25in American history. Democrat James James Talarico and Republican Ken
00:07:29Ken Paxton are in a race that's too
00:07:32too close to call. Democrats haven't
00:07:34haven't won here statewide since
00:07:37since 1994. If they manage it this
00:07:39this time around, it'll be the big
00:07:41big story of the night. Just look
00:07:44look how long this line is for early.
00:07:46early. Voting here in the state of of Ohio. Some of the guys here told
00:07:50told me they've been waiting 2.5 2.5 hours already to cast their ballot
00:07:53ballot in the building over there there ahead of Tuesday's midterm
00:07:55midterm election. And we're hearing
00:07:58hearing that the rates of early in-person
00:08:00in-person voting are way up on what
00:08:02what they were four years ago here. here. Now the big issue as soon as
00:08:06as we got here, someone said to me me the cost of gas price of petrol
00:08:10petrol as it is nationwide, of course,
00:08:12course, but this state has been marked
00:08:14marked by an incredibly acrimonious acrimonious race. The Republicans
00:08:18Republicans hold this state both both in the Senate and for the governor's governor's mansion. There's been
00:08:22been a big row as far as that's concerned
00:08:25concerned over the attack ads in in that particular race. It all shows
00:08:28shows you just how bitterly fought fought the state of Ohio is going
00:08:31going to be. A shock here in the the high profile Michigan Senate
00:08:34Senate race is rocking the Democratic Democratic Party. Congresswoman Haley
00:08:37Haley Stevens has very publicly endorsed endorsed the Republican Mike Rogers
00:08:41Rogers over her own party's nominee, nominee, Abdul El-Sayed, who she
00:08:45she lost to in the primary. In recent recent days. She has gone after him
00:08:48him again for his stance on Israel. Israel. In reaction, El-Sayed, who
00:08:51who hopes to become Michigan's first first Muslim senator, said he wasn't
00:08:55wasn't thinking of Haley Stevens. Stevens. But the concerns of voters
00:08:58voters in these final hours, this this last minute stunning break with
00:09:01with her party has been swiftly condemned condemned by Democrats here, who
00:09:05who almost certainly need to hold hold the state to have a fighting
00:09:07fighting chance of retaking the Senate. Senate. Many of her own staffers
00:09:11staffers have resigned, including including her chief of staff, who
00:09:13who said the election was too important
00:09:15important to sow. Division and Democratic Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said
00:09:19said the party was united against against Mike Rogers, who he called
00:09:22called a tool of Donald Trump. But
00:09:25But this remarkable public feud points points to the deep divisions among
00:09:29among Democrats. Let's take you straight straight to Washington, and we can
00:09:31can speak to Melik Abdul, who is is a Republican strategist. Let's
00:09:34Let's first talk about the melodrama
00:09:37melodrama in Michigan. It is really really the only topic of conversation
00:09:41conversation today because it has
00:09:42has been so stunning to so many people.
00:09:45people. Malik, what are your thoughts thoughts about what Haley Stevens
00:09:48Stevens has done in endorsing Rogers? Rogers? Do you think it's going to
00:09:51to change voters' minds? Or we'll we'll just look back at this and
00:09:54and see it was just a piece of political political melodrama. You know, it's
00:09:58it's very hard to say. I would say
00:09:59say if this were Texas or some other
00:10:02other state, I would have some really really serious questions about it.
00:10:05it. But there have been some serious serious concerns in Michigan, not
00:10:09not just in the 20 this cycle, but
00:10:11but also in the 2024 cycle. The issue issue of Palestine and our relationship
00:10:15relationship with Israel, it has has become a big issue in many of
00:10:18of these elections, but especially especially in places like Michigan
00:10:21Michigan with a very large Arab American
00:10:23American population. And so there's there's a lot of questions about about whether or not Al Saeed will
00:10:27will be able to get a lot of that that Jewish coalition, the black
00:10:31black coalition in places like Michigan. Michigan. And it's very unique to
00:10:35to Michigan, as I said, as opposed opposed to other places around the
00:10:38the country. But it is a real huge
00:10:41huge problem for Democrats because because this was not a dis. And to
00:10:44to be clear, she's not leaving the
00:10:46the Democratic Party. She's refusing
00:10:49refusing to endorse back at this this point, the Democratic nominee.
00:10:52nominee. Yeah, but. We've heard that
00:10:54that all received another 1.5 million
00:10:57million potentially in donations donations since this happened. Can
00:10:59Can we read much into that? It's
00:11:03It's well, he's the Democratic candidate, candidate, so it's not surprising.
00:11:06surprising. There are a lot of people people who. And you heard from Chuck
00:11:08Chuck Schumer himself. Democrats Democrats are united behind the candidates
00:11:12candidates here because they want want them to win. Everybody wants wants to win. And so even though
00:11:16though that money. It will definitely definitely be helpful in these last
00:11:19last couple of days, it's not something something that's going to decide
00:11:22decide the election on Tuesday. OK. OK. And you're a strategist. President
00:11:25President Trump asking voters to to say pretend that I'm on the ticket.
00:11:29ticket. Do you really think, given given how low his approval ratings
00:11:33ratings are at the moment, that that that was strategically wise? Yeah.
00:11:36Yeah. Well, to be honest, Donald Donald Trump really doesn't have have a choice when you think about
00:11:40about the Republican Party or at at least the voices that are out
00:11:43out there speaking during this cycle, cycle, there aren't very many. And
00:11:47And so Donald Trump didn't have a a lot of options when it came to
00:11:50to what he wants to do as far as as delivering his message. Donald
00:11:54Donald Trump is the at this point,
00:11:56point, the most popular Republican Republican within the Republican
00:11:59Republican caucus. So he's going going out everywhere around the country
00:12:03country and he's spending a lot of of time in places that people have
00:12:07have traditionally criticised because because they're red states. But we
00:12:10we have a lot you know, we don't don't have the wind at our back at
00:12:13at this all of the polls at this this point, most of them are within
00:12:16within the margin of error and those those that are not Republicans are
00:12:19are not leading. So it seems as if,
00:12:21if, at least at this point, that
00:12:24that we're heading into what we would
00:12:26would call a blue wave. If that doesn't
00:12:28doesn't manifest, I want to be back back then to have another conversation conversation about that. OK. I want
00:12:32want to ask you about the voters voters because there are so many
00:12:35many conversations. What about what
00:12:37what people don't like at the moment moment and the negativity, but what
00:12:41what are the messages that you're you're seeing? Republicans talk about
00:12:44about that actually are connecting connecting with voters? What are
00:12:47are some of the messaging that's that's working well? And this is
00:12:51is one of the things here. So we
00:12:53we have, of course, these state elections
00:12:55elections and you're seeing candidates candidates in specific states talk
00:12:59talk about the issues that are relevant relevant to that specific state.
00:13:02state. It's very difficult to do. do. And this is where the balancing
00:13:06balancing act is because Donald Trump, Trump, for all intents and purposes,
00:13:08purposes, sucks all of the oxygen oxygen out of the room. So if Donald
00:13:11Donald Trump is making a message message and you have someone like
00:13:14like a Byron Donalds running for
00:13:16for governor down in Florida talking talking about the work that he's
00:13:19he's doing around the insurance company, company, the prices that that Floridians
00:13:23Floridians pay around, that the data data centres, all of those things
00:13:26things get wiped away because Donald Donald Trump may have said something.
00:13:30something. So it's a balancing act act that Republicans that you're
00:13:32you're really seeing from Maine all all the way to California, you're
00:13:36you're seeing Republicans talk about
00:13:39about local issues because the national national issues are superimposed
00:13:42superimposed on this election. And And Donald Trump, I think it was was in your segment, it was asked
00:13:46asked whether or not this is a referendum referendum or whether or not this
00:13:49this will be a referendum on Donald Donald Trump. It absolutely will
00:13:53will be a referendum on the party party and power. And Republicans
00:13:56Republicans are now in power. And And that includes Donald Trump. Great Great to talk to you, Melik Abdul.
00:14:00Abdul. Thank you so much for joining joining us quickly. Time to show
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00:15:19BBC News. Both Ukraine and Russia
00:15:24Russia say their emergency alert alert apps have been hit by cyber
00:15:28cyber attacks. Late on Sunday, Ukraine Ukraine warning that its air alert
00:15:31alert app appeared to have been compromised compromised after citizens received
00:15:35received false notifications about about a radiological threat and other
00:15:39other attacks. Ukraine's Centre for
00:15:42for Strategic Communications blamed blamed Russia for the hack and a
00:15:44a post on its X account. It showed showed some of the alerts asking
00:15:48asking residents to disregard any any strange messages they might see
00:15:52see in the app, as well as warnings warnings of a radiological threat.
00:15:54threat. The false notifications warned warned of a chemical attack and even
00:15:58even possible street fighting in
00:15:59in Kyiv. They know this morning Russia's Russia's Ministry of Emergency Situations
00:16:03Situations said its mobile app had had been subjected to what it called
00:16:07called a massive cyber attack. It It said this had resulted in the
00:16:11the distribution of fake information information to the public. Let's
00:16:13Let's take you straight to our Ukraine Ukraine correspondent, Dan Johnson, Johnson, who joins us from Kyiv.
00:16:17Kyiv. And with me here in the studio studio is our cyber correspondent,
00:16:20correspondent, Joe Tidy. But first first to you, Dan, what was that
00:16:23that like for people to receive those
00:16:25those messages in the night? Yeah,
00:16:29Yeah, it was certainly unnerving unnerving when the first of these
00:16:32these fake warnings came through through just before 11pm last night
00:16:35night for those who were still awake awake anyway or who were woken by
00:16:39by these notifications on their phone, phone, it's an app that many people people use, and there are different
00:16:43different variants of it all based based on the same data. So whichever
00:16:45whichever app people have, if they they do indeed have it, they will
00:16:48will have got these warnings starting
00:16:51starting with incoming ballistic ballistic missiles and drones, the the sort of warnings that they get
00:16:55get repeatedly here. But then they they were followed by warnings of
00:16:58of a nuclear threat, chemical attack,
00:17:02attack, combat in the streets and and artillery shelling, which are
00:17:06are all unusual warnings to have have received. And I think although although that did unnerve people
00:17:09people at first, the fact that so
00:17:12so many of those warnings are of of such extreme danger all came through
00:17:16through in the space of just 5 or or 10 minutes, I think indicated
00:17:19indicated to lots of people that that this was down to some sort of
00:17:23of glitch or technical problem in in the app, even if they hadn't realised
00:17:26realised it was the result of hacking. hacking. So I think although this
00:17:28this did cause some concern, it did did not lead to widespread panic
00:17:32panic because it was quite quickly quickly apparent to people that something something wasn't quite right with
00:17:36with this. I've been speaking to to Ukrainians this morning who said,
00:17:38said, yeah, you see the word nuclear. nuclear. You're very fearful. But
00:17:41But then you see something like combat combat in the streets and it doesn't
00:17:44doesn't quite add up, especially especially not in combination with with it all coming together. The
00:17:48The Air Force also issued a statement statement very quickly within 15
00:17:5215 minutes of this starting, saying saying that the app had been compromised
00:17:55compromised and that there was indeed indeed no radiation threat and that
00:17:57that people did not need to panic. panic. So officials were pretty quick
00:18:01quick to try to reassure people. people. But they have now got the
00:18:04the challenge of ensuring that that that app is secure so that people
00:18:07people can rely on future warnings warnings that come there is an air
00:18:10air raid alert in place at the moment. moment. We've just heard the sirens
00:18:13sirens sound and there are explosions explosions on the edge of the city.
00:18:16city. So that demonstrates how important important this system is because
00:18:19because not everybody can hear the the sirens in the streets. So they
00:18:22they have a job on to maintain faith faith in this system, even at the
00:18:26the best of times, because the number number of attacks is so relentless
00:18:29relentless and the amount of times times those sirens sound each day,
00:18:33day, lots of people have grown weary weary of it and frankly have given
00:18:36given up taking any action in response response to it. So officials already already faced a challenge there.
00:18:40there. Now they've got to rebuild rebuild faith and confidence so that
00:18:44that the next time those alerts go go off on people's phones, they do do actually respond. Dan. Thanks
00:18:47Thanks for that. Joel. What actually actually happened here? And are we
00:18:50we seeing a tit-for-tat scenario scenario as well? It feels that way.
00:18:54way. It has all the hallmarks of of a hacktivist attack. So activist
00:18:57activist hackers we've seen a lot lot of that in the Ukraine conflict
00:19:01conflict with amateur groups, either either Ukrainian or pro-Ukrainian
00:19:05pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian as as well on both sides using low skilled
00:19:09skilled kind of hacks to carry out out loud and attention grabbing cyber
00:19:12cyber attacks against each other. other. That's what it looked like like at first, because it's not the
00:19:16the first time that a that a warning warning system has been hacked by by hacktivists, for example. But
00:19:20But then you had this immediate retaliation retaliation with only a few hours.
00:19:24hours. And I think that is a bit bit strange in the kind of sort of
00:19:27of shows the sort of murky world world that we live in with cyber. cyber. Because if you'd have been
00:19:31been if you'd have had the access access to do that, you would have have done it before. If you were
00:19:34were a kind of amateur hacktivist hacktivist group. So it kind of implies implies some kind of co-ordination
00:19:38co-ordination here whereby obviously obviously the Russian, the pro-Russian
00:19:42pro-Russian activists or hackers, hackers, whoever they were carried carried out the attack. And then
00:19:45then for some reason they wanted wanted to go straight away as a retaliation
00:19:48retaliation to say to show we can
00:19:50can do it as well. And I'm just about
00:19:54about to talk to someone who's in
00:19:56in Kherson. Dan, but to get your
00:19:59your perspective from Kyiv, the official official reaction to what we've seen
00:20:02seen in the past few hours in Kherson, Kherson, where the ceasefire has
00:20:06has ended. Yeah, there's a huge amount
00:20:10amount of concern about the fact fact that that cease fire is now
00:20:13now over and that shelling and the the bombardment of Kherson city and
00:20:17and that entire region has now resumed
00:20:20resumed for the past almost a week, week, they've had that temporary
00:20:23temporary truce in place, which in in the Ukrainian part Ukrainian controlled
00:20:27controlled part of Kherson, has allowed allowed to some degree life as normal
00:20:30normal to return just for a brief brief period. People have been going
00:20:33going back to homes that they abandoned abandoned months ago, but now they
00:20:37they were warned that that cease cease fire would end and that that that shelling would restart. There
00:20:40There were also warned that the likelihood likelihood was during that temporary
00:20:43temporary truce Russia would have have reinforced its units there and
00:20:46and that the resumption of hostilities hostilities could be even worse than than anything they'd seen before.
00:20:50before. And the early reports were were getting are that that is indeed
00:20:53indeed what is happening in that that region. The Kremlin has also
00:20:55also said that there's to be no repeat repeat of the sort of humanitarian
00:20:59humanitarian evacuation that we saw saw last week from that town. Oleshky
00:21:02Oleshky so very much in that corner corner of Ukraine. The war has resumed.
00:21:06resumed. OK, Dan, good to have you you with us, as always. Thanks so
00:21:08so much. And Joe, thank you. Well, Well, let's take you straight to
00:21:11to the heart of that story. We can
00:21:14can join Cyrille Amoursky, who is
00:21:16is a Ukraine reporter for BFM TV.
00:21:20TV. You have been in Kherson. I'm I'm not sure where you are at the
00:21:24the moment, but what has been your your experience over the past few
00:21:28few days? Well, I'm in the city itself itself and as your correspondent
00:21:31correspondent mentioned, for the the past six days there was a ceasefire ceasefire in the whole region of
00:21:34of Kherson and it was pretty impressive impressive because I've been in her
00:21:38her song in the past and honestly, honestly, it was quite different.
00:21:41different. So in the past and even even today, of course, you could
00:21:43could hear drones, you could hear hear artillery shelling yesterday
00:21:47yesterday and for the past other other days it was complete silence.
00:21:50silence. Yes, we did hear some explosions. explosions. Unfortunately, some people people were injured or killed because
00:21:54because of some mines, but there there were no attacks either from
00:21:57from the Ukrainian side or from the the Russian side. So that was something
00:22:00something completely new. And everyone everyone was quite surprised because
00:22:03because it's been years since people people didn't see such a common situation
00:22:06situation in the city today. Unfortunately, Unfortunately, the attacks resumed
00:22:09resumed and literally about 15, 20 20 minutes before I started talking
00:22:12talking to you, I was in an area area that was pretty crowded with with drones. We could hear them fly
00:22:16fly around, so we had to run to a a shelter. And now I'm with you in
00:22:19in a safer area still in the city city of Kherson. I'm pleased that
00:22:22that you're in a safe area. That's That's good to know. What has it
00:22:26it been like for people there living
00:22:30living under constant bombardment? You know, in a certain
00:22:33certain sense people are in total total war. Total total disbelief.
00:22:36disbelief. For them it was something something that they are not used
00:22:39used to any more. They were used used to explosions. They were used
00:22:42used to hearing drones all of these
00:22:43these days. And some areas were,
00:22:46were, I would say, according to her her sound standards, pretty crowded crowded yesterday if you would go
00:22:50go to the supermarket, for example, example, for the first time since
00:22:53since months or maybe even years,
00:22:55years, you had actual queues at the the desks. That's something that
00:22:58that didn't happen for quite a while. while. We did something similar today.
00:23:02today. The parking was pretty much much empty. Almost no one was at
00:23:05at the store and there were no queues queues any more. The same goes for
00:23:09for other areas. Basically, whenever whenever you talk to locals they
00:23:12they say, yeah, I managed to go to to a district that I didn't go to
00:23:15to for the past few years or months months because it was too dangerous. dangerous. For example, in Kherson
00:23:18Kherson you have an area that is is called the yellow area and the
00:23:21the red area, the yellow area you you can I mean, it's all obviously
00:23:25obviously dangerous, but you can can still kind of try to live. When When we talk about the red zone though,
00:23:29though, you have drones everywhere. everywhere. So I talked to some people people that really tried to enjoy
00:23:33enjoy the past few days by going going to the areas that they left
00:23:37left before to see if their house house is still here, if it was impacted
00:23:40impacted by drones because they were were unable to do it for the past past few years already. Is it possible
00:23:44possible to know how many people people have left and how many people
00:23:47people actually stayed behind? Well,
00:23:50Well, we don't have a precise number.
00:23:52number. And the Ukrainian the Ukrainian Ukrainian government doesn't communicate communicate an official number. I
00:23:56I was at the border between Ukraine Ukraine and Belarus, and one of the the things that we heard is that
00:24:00that basically no official number number will be communicated for,
00:24:03for, I guess, security purposes. purposes. But also in my from my
00:24:07my perspective, it's also a demand demand from the Russian side because
00:24:09because most of the people decided decided to leave to free Ukraine
00:24:13Ukraine and not towards Russia. So So in terms of the Russian political
00:24:15political message, obviously something something is wrong from their perspective.
00:24:19perspective. So in terms of the Russian Russian propaganda, they cannot communicate communicate on these numbers. But
00:24:23But according to various sources sources we are talking about 800
00:24:26800 people. I think that's the number number that was also that was pretty
00:24:30pretty much announced by Melania Melania Trump. So about 800 people
00:24:34people left in total, most of them them to free Ukraine. Even US reporters
00:24:38reporters who were on the ground ground do confirm that at least two
00:24:40two thirds of the people went to
00:24:43to Ukraine and the rest went to Russia, Russia, either to be inside of Russia
00:24:47Russia or some people decided to to go to Russia not to stay there,
00:24:50there, but then to join Europe because because a lot of men did not maybe
00:24:53maybe want to come back to Ukraine Ukraine with the fear of conscription. conscription. And this was a part
00:24:57part of the Russian propaganda. You You shouldn't leave Oleshky because
00:25:00because if you do as a man, you will will be conscripted. But most people
00:25:04people came back to Ukraine. And And honestly, in terms of emotions, emotions, it was something really
00:25:07really impressive. People were extremely extremely happy to be free again,
00:25:10again, to freely speak in Ukrainian Ukrainian and see their members of
00:25:13of their family that they didn't didn't see for almost five years.
00:25:16years. And Cyril, is there a wider
00:25:17wider hope that what we've just seen
00:25:20seen there could become some kind kind of blueprint and happen elsewhere?
00:25:24elsewhere? You asked also about the
00:25:26the numbers. So we said before the the evacuation that about 1200 to
00:25:30to 2000 people were there today. today. We don't know, but we can can estimate a few hundred. Of course,
00:25:33course, if you talk to Ukrainians, Ukrainians, they do hope that more
00:25:36more people that there will be more more initiative initiatives as such
00:25:39such in other areas of Ukraine. But But for the moment, as your correspondent
00:25:43correspondent mentioned, Russia does does not want to implement anything
00:25:46anything like that in any other area. area. I talked to some people and
00:25:49and her son, they even thought that that maybe the ceasefire will be
00:25:53be prolonged and they really hope hope that maybe this is like the
00:25:56the beginning of the end of the war. war. Unfortunately, today they sobered
00:25:59sobered up because right at the moment moment when the ceasefire stopped,
00:26:02stopped, it was at 10pm 59, exactly exactly at this moment yesterday
00:26:05yesterday there was the shelling shelling of the city. So yes, people people really hope for that. But But for the
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