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00:00:07MUSIC
00:00:10It's 6pm in London. This is the World
00:00:16World Today with Maryam Moshiri. Moshiri. On the eve of Americas crucial
00:00:19crucial midterm elections, millions millions prepare to vote. Can Donald Donald Trump and the Republicans
00:00:23Republicans keep control of the US US Congress? We want them out. We
00:00:27We want them out. And I am excited excited that if we can flip Kansas,
00:00:31Kansas, we give hope to the rest rest of the country. He says what
00:00:33what he's going to do and just I
00:00:35I have a lot of faith in the man.
00:00:37man. We'll get the latest from our our correspondents on the ground
00:00:40ground in some of the key battleground battleground states, and we'll also
00:00:44also speak to a spokesperson for for the former Republican House speaker
00:00:47speaker Kevin McCarthy. In other other news, Ukraine's president says
00:00:50says Russian forces have bombed a a village in the southeastern Zaporizhzhia
00:00:53Zaporizhzhia region, killing 18 and
00:00:55and injuring five supermarkets in in seven European countries report
00:00:59report problems with their refrigeration refrigeration systems in a suspected
00:01:02suspected cyber attack. The King King will address Commonwealth leaders
00:01:05leaders about the lasting pain of of the transatlantic slave trade
00:01:08trade during the final leg of his
00:01:10his Caribbean tour.
00:01:23Hello and welcome to The World
00:01:26Today on BBC News. Well, the US is is on the eve of crucial midterm
00:01:29midterm elections. Millions are preparing preparing to vote and the outcome
00:01:33outcome will decide who controls controls the two chambers of Congress.
00:01:36Congress. We'll take a look at these.
00:01:38these. These are pictures. Live pictures pictures from Washington and Capitol
00:01:42Capitol Hill. Democrats are hoping hoping to take control of the House
00:01:45House of Representatives. They also also have their sights on flipping
00:01:48flipping the Senate. That has huge huge implications when it comes to
00:01:52to what Donald Trump could be able
00:01:54able to do in his last two years
00:01:56years domestically and on foreign foreign policy. We have correspondents
00:01:59correspondents in most of the key
00:02:01key battleground states Ohio, Iowa,
00:02:05Iowa, Kansas, Texas and Alaska. Remarkably, Remarkably, traditional Republican
00:02:08Republican states like Texas are are in play for Democrats. Kansas,
00:02:12Kansas, which could also switch, switch, hasn't sent a Democrat to
00:02:15to the Senate since 1932. Well, national
00:02:17national polling for Donald Trump Trump has been dire. The war with
00:02:20with Iran, the cost of living corruption
00:02:23corruption all making this a tough tough set of elections for Republican
00:02:27Republican candidates. Well, the the midterms held in the middle of
00:02:30of each four year presidential term term by definition, don't involve
00:02:33involve the President himself. But
00:02:34But if you have any doubt about the
00:02:38the importance of these elections, elections, consider these statistics.
00:02:41statistics. More than 100 million million people are likely to vote vote in person tomorrow. If the turnout
00:02:45turnout is anything like the previous
00:02:47previous midterm we saw back in 2022.
00:02:502022. And as of October the 12th,
00:02:5212th, a record $3.8 billion have
00:02:54have been spent on political advertisements advertisements aired. Top spending
00:02:58spending is in battleground US Senate
00:03:00Senate races in Texas, Ohio and Michigan, Michigan, according to AdImpact,
00:03:04AdImpact, which tracks the activities.
00:03:06activities. Elon Musk alone has spent
00:03:11spent around $366 million to support support Republicans, according to
00:03:15to campaign finance records. Well, Well, let's start now with this special
00:03:17special report from our North America
00:03:21America editor, Sarah Smith. Donald Donald Trump is not standing in these
00:03:24these elections, but he has put himself himself at the centre of the Republican
00:03:27Republican campaign. Hosting dozens dozens of rallies across the country,
00:03:30country, projecting confidence in in the face of opinion polls that that suggest significant defeats.
00:03:34defeats. If we win as big as I think, think, we look at the crowd, if we
00:03:37we win as big as I think we're going going to win, going to they're go go back into their holes. They're
00:03:41They're going to they're going to
00:03:43to go away. In this interview, it's
00:03:46it's clear he has considered that that Democrats may win both houses
00:03:49houses of Congress. If that happens, happens, I guess I'll become Mr Veto.
00:03:53Veto. I'm not going to let him run. run. And then at some point we'll
00:03:56we'll probably make deals. That's That's what's happened. I mean, this
00:03:59this is this wouldn't be the first first time. Donald Trump still draws
00:04:03draws a crowd with fans gathering gathering for a recent event in Port
00:04:06Port Huron, Michigan. His strategy strategy is to try to energise these
00:04:10these people who do still support support him, but often don't bother
00:04:12bother to come out and vote in midterm midterm elections. His views are
00:04:15are in line with most of America. America. I believe today. I think
00:04:18think even if there are things that that he's not doing perfectly, overwhelmingly overwhelmingly his views are what
00:04:21what the American people are looking looking for. He's the leader. So
00:04:24So you lead by being out front. You You don't lead from the back. And
00:04:27And it will inspire people to come come out and vote Republican. Seeing
00:04:30Seeing him. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. He's not for himself.
00:04:34himself. He's not for government. government. He's for the people.
00:04:37people. The Democrat Senate candidate candidate in Michigan, Abdul El-Sayed
00:04:40El-Sayed is in a tight race. His His left wing views and criticism
00:04:43criticism of Israel have turned off off some voters, and now he's under
00:04:46under fire from his own side. Dr Dr El-Sayed defeated a much more
00:04:50more moderate Democrat in the primary primary election. Haley Stevens and
00:04:54and she had pledged to support him. him. But when she was told not to
00:04:57to come to this church event on Sunday, Sunday, she suddenly flipped to backing
00:05:01backing the Republican. I am endorsing
00:05:04endorsing Mike Rogers for the United
00:05:06United States Senate today. I don't
00:05:08don't belong in Abdullah's campaign. campaign. Voters primary concern
00:05:11concern is the cost of living, and and most of them blame Donald Trump
00:05:14Trump and the war in Iran for pushing
00:05:16pushing up prices. At this farmers farmers market in Kennebunkport in
00:05:20in Maine, people think the President President is repelling voters, not
00:05:22not attracting them. How Donald Trump's Trump's performed over the last couple
00:05:26couple of years is that an important important consideration when you're
00:05:28you're deciding who to vote for?
00:05:30for? Definitely needs to go. If the
00:05:33the results are unfavourable to Republicans, Republicans, will that make a big big difference to Donald Trump's
00:05:37Trump's last couple of years? I think think he'll be even more vicious
00:05:41vicious and stupid and lash out in
00:05:44in any way possible to suit his narcissism.
00:05:48narcissism. Donald Trump has been been underestimated in opinion polls
00:05:51polls before. Maybe his Republicans Republicans will do better than expected.
00:05:55expected. Either way, this is his his last campaign and the last time
00:05:58time voters get their say on what what they think of him. Well, that's
00:06:02that's our North America editor, editor, Sarah Smith. Let's cross
00:06:04cross live now and speak to our correspondent correspondent Nada Tawfik, who is
00:06:08is in Michigan. A row has erupted
00:06:10erupted in the Democratic Party after after Michigan Congresswoman Haley
00:06:13Haley Stevens, who of course missed missed out on the party's Senate
00:06:16Senate nomination in the state to to Abdul El-Sayed, endorsed his Republican
00:06:20Republican rival. An incredible story.
00:06:22story. Tell us more. Yeah, that's.
00:06:26that's. Right, Miriam. And you know,
00:06:29know, Haley Stevens quickly came came under criticism from leading
00:06:32leading Democrats all the way from from Chuck Schumer, the Senate leader,
00:06:35leader, saying it was a betrayal betrayal of the party. Two Democrats Democrats here in Michigan who have
00:06:39have said that she has no future future in the Democratic Party after
00:06:42after this to her own staff resigning
00:06:45resigning en masse. And we were at
00:06:48at a rally last night in Southfield,
00:06:53Southfield, Michigan, and supporters supporters there of his essentially
00:06:55essentially said that this is going
00:06:57going to push those who are interested, interested, Democrats who are interested
00:07:01interested in keeping in getting getting the Senate winning back the the Senate. This will push them to
00:07:05to work even harder to elect Abdul
00:07:07Abdul El-Sayed. And that has been
00:07:09been right. We have seen the fractured
00:07:11fractured Democratic Party actually actually rallying around this progressive
00:07:15progressive candidate. Now he had
00:07:17had a record day of fundraising yesterday.
00:07:22yesterday. Miriam $2.4 million in in donations to his campaign. So
00:07:25So it seems her move has backfired backfired after losing to him in
00:07:29in the primary. She had real differences
00:07:31differences with him over his criticisms
00:07:34criticisms of Israel and after the the tensions kind of blew up to the
00:07:37the point where she was asked to
00:07:39to stay away from the campaign, it
00:07:42it seems she decided at that point point that she would support the
00:07:46the Republican, and she has been been on interviews here in the US
00:07:50US media being grilled about that
00:07:52that without really saying exactly
00:07:54exactly what changed her mind. So So a real shock here in Michigan
00:07:58Michigan that days before the election, election, a Democratic congresswoman
00:08:01congresswoman would support a
00:08:05Republican. Thank you very much indeed. indeed. Well, we have so many correspondents
00:08:09correspondents now who are taking taking the political pulse across
00:08:12across the US we're going to start start with Clive Myrie, who is in
00:08:15in North Carolina. It's quite astonishing
00:08:18astonishing that a place like North
00:08:20North Carolina could send a Democrat Democrat senator back to Washington
00:08:23Washington for the first time in in almost 20 years. The Republicans
00:08:27Republicans have ruled the roost roost here, but they're in trouble
00:08:31trouble in these elections. Many Many we've spoken to say the economy
00:08:34economy is their big concern, and and the cost of living is simply
00:08:36simply too high. We found a two mile
00:08:39mile long queue of people trying
00:08:41trying to get help from a food bank. bank. Farmers here say they're angry
00:08:44angry about tariffs and trade policy,
00:08:47policy, though some maintain they'll they'll stick with the Republicans.
00:08:50Republicans. The Democrats are confident confident they can win, and if they
00:08:54they do, that could spell big trouble
00:08:56trouble in Washington for Donald Donald Trump. Just look how long
00:09:00long this line is for early voting voting here in the state of Ohio.
00:09:03Ohio. Some of the guys here told told me they've been waiting 2.5
00:09:062.5 hours already to cast their ballot ballot in the building over there
00:09:10there ahead of Tuesday's midterm midterm election. And we're hearing
00:09:13hearing that the rates of early in-person in-person voting are way up on what
00:09:17what they were four years ago here. here. Now, the big issue, as soon
00:09:21soon as we got here, someone said said to me the cost of gas price
00:09:23price of petrol as it is nationwide, nationwide, of course, but this state
00:09:27state has been marked by an incredibly
00:09:31incredibly acrimonious race. The The Republicans hold this state both
00:09:34both in the Senate and for the governor's governor's mansion. There's been
00:09:37been a big row as far as that's concerned
00:09:40concerned over the attack ads in in that particular race. It all shows
00:09:43shows you just how bitterly fought
00:09:45fought the state of Ohio is going
00:09:47going to be. This state is shaping shaping up to be. One of the most
00:09:51most consequential contests in these these elections. I'm in Texas, where
00:09:54where the battle for a single Senate Senate seat could end up deciding
00:09:58deciding who controls Congress. More
00:10:00More than half $1 billion has been been spent on advertising alone,
00:10:03alone, making it the most expensive
00:10:06expensive non-presidential race in
00:10:08in American history. Democrat James James Talarico and Republican Ken
00:10:12Ken Paxton are in a race that's too
00:10:15too close to call. Democrats haven't
00:10:17haven't won here statewide since
00:10:20since 1994. If they manage it this
00:10:22this time around, it'll be the big
00:10:24big story of the night. Well, let's let's dive a little bit more deeply
00:10:28deeply now into what we could potentially potentially expect and what the ramifications
00:10:32ramifications of that might be over over the coming days. Let's speak
00:10:34speak to Mark Bednar, who was the the strategic spokesperson for the
00:10:37the former Republican House speaker speaker Kevin McCarthy. It's so good
00:10:40good to see you. Thanks so much for for joining us. And I guess my first
00:10:43first question now is what are you you hearing from Republicans? Because
00:10:46Because it just feels like the tide tide is against them right now. Well,
00:10:50Well, thanks so much for having me. me. There's a lot of different chatter
00:10:54chatter across the country. There There are certain situations you you just mentioned North Carolina,
00:10:58Carolina, North Carolina Senate seat seat that is an uphill climb. However,
00:11:01However, there's excitement in other other states for within the United
00:11:04United States Senate, such as Michigan, Michigan, such as potentially New
00:11:08New Hampshire, even Minnesota. So
00:11:11So while there are issues with deeply deeply red, deeply Republican states
00:11:14states that we've been seeing the the actual opportunity to for Republicans
00:11:18Republicans to win some of these these democratically held seats and
00:11:21and kind of provide a blocker in in order to maintain that Senate Senate majority that is still very
00:11:25very much in play as well. So you you believe that is still in play
00:11:28play despite what the polls are telling
00:11:30telling us in certain areas? Well,
00:11:33Well, what we've seen with the polls
00:11:35polls is a lot of these Senate races,
00:11:37races, whether it is in Iowa or Kansas
00:11:39Kansas or Texas, that the. And it's
00:11:42it's and beyond is that a lot of of these the polling averages with
00:11:46with end up being within the margin margin of error. So this ends up
00:11:49up becoming an instance where do
00:11:51do anything independents do conservative conservative leaning independents independents do other Republicans
00:11:55Republicans that have not yet voted voted or who traditionally do not
00:11:58not come out for midterms. Are they they actually going to have the opportunity
00:12:02opportunity here to show up and vote
00:12:04vote on Tuesday? If that's the case, case, Republicans can kind of stem
00:12:07stem the tide of the Democratic momentum. momentum. Mark, what about the President
00:12:11President Trump factor? Is he helping helping or hindering do you think? think? You know, the economy is a
00:12:14a big issue right now. Is President President Trump campaigning for you
00:12:18you as a candidate a good or bad bad thing? Well, any candidate who
00:12:22who thinks that they can cobble together together the unique voting coalition
00:12:26coalition that President Trump has, has, has amassed over the course course of the years. Any Republican
00:12:29Republican who thinks that they can can replicate that on their own does
00:12:33does so at their own peril. President President Trump has, you know, came
00:12:37came up with such an idiosyncratic idiosyncratic voting coalition, him
00:12:40him getting back on the road, him him attracting thousands of people
00:12:43people to rallies and actually engaging
00:12:46engaging a lower, lower propensity propensity voting population. It's
00:12:49It's really important that that part part of the Republican base gets
00:12:52gets out because if they do not show show up, then Republicans do not
00:12:55not have a chance. So President Trump Trump barnstorming the country right
00:12:59right now, that is very encouraging encouraging for Republicans in these these races. You're talking about
00:13:03about the Republicans chances. But But let's just say, you know, they they lose control of either the House
00:13:06House or the Senate or both. What What do you think is going to happen
00:13:09happen to the President Trump and and current administration's agenda?
00:13:13agenda? What are the repercussions repercussions potentially going to
00:13:15to be? Oh, buckle up. That's first
00:13:18first and foremost. But what we're we're going to see from on the what
00:13:22what Democrats have already signalled signalled we they're not in power
00:13:25power right now, but they've also also shut down the government, the
00:13:28the United States government multiple multiple times that the increased
00:13:32increased likelihood of that is only only going to go move forward should
00:13:36should Democrats maintain the power power of the purse with majorities.
00:13:39majorities. But also we get increasingly increasingly like more likely to
00:13:42to another impeachment of President President Trump. It just over the
00:13:45the course of the summer, Democrats Democrats more than 140 of them supported
00:13:49supported impeachment opening impeachment impeachment inquiry into President President Trump. I don't think that
00:13:53that number goes down. I think that that number only goes up. And should
00:13:55should they take the majority in in the House, that would equate to
00:13:58to about two thirds of that caucus caucus already. So we're marching
00:14:02marching towards that sort of dysfunction dysfunction and disruption. And, And, you know, President Trump's
00:14:06Trump's agenda, of course, from a a legislative standpoint that runs
00:14:09runs into a brick wall because Democrats Democrats are probably not going
00:14:13going to negotiate and work with with him. OK. Mark, it's been great
00:14:16great to talk to you. Thank you so
00:14:19so much for your analysis. Thank
00:14:21Thank you. Now you can watch a special
00:14:24special programme here on BBC News News bringing you the results of
00:14:27of those US midterm elections as
00:14:29as they happen. That's live from
00:14:31from Washington, DC with my colleagues
00:14:34colleagues Clive Myrie Sumi Somaskanda Somaskanda and Caitriona Perry. That
00:14:36That starts tomorrow evening at 11:30.
00:14:4011:30. Let's take a short break now, now, though, because around the world world and across
00:15:44are braced for what could be a very very tough winter ahead. Stay with
00:15:47with us on BBC News and we'll bring
00:15:48bring you the latest. Now let's talk
00:15:58talk about Ukraine because we're we're hearing that at least 24 people
00:16:00people have been killed in a Russian Russian attack on a settlement in
00:16:04in the Zaporizhzhia region. Dozens Dozens more are said to be missing.
00:16:07missing. President Zelensky shared shared this video on X. He says the
00:16:11the settlement was hit several times times today and that a school being
00:16:14being used for humanitarian purposes purposes was struck. President Zelensky
00:16:18Zelensky said after the first aerial aerial bomb strike, there was a double
00:16:20double tap strike with nine more more bombs specifically targeting
00:16:24targeting the shelter where people
00:16:26people were taking cover. He's been been posting about this attack. Here's
00:16:29Here's our very latest. Now with with our correspondent in Kyiv. Dan
00:16:33Dan Johnson. He's posted some information information but also a video that
00:16:36that shows the aftermath of these these strikes. He's described this
00:16:39this as a double tap attack, which
00:16:42which is essentially where there's there's one round of strikes. And
00:16:46And then after a short delay, perhaps perhaps when rescue workers have
00:16:49have come to the scene, there is is a further round of strikes. In
00:16:52In fact, the President says after after the first aerial bomb, there
00:16:55there was a double tap strike with
00:16:57with nine more bombs. And that's
00:17:00that's the sirens just going off off here in Kyiv. As I'm speaking
00:17:03speaking to you, the President has has described this attack in the
00:17:07the Zaporizhzhia region as utterly utterly horrific. And he said that
00:17:10that the Russians could not have have been unaware that the building
00:17:13building that was hit was a school school that was actually being used
00:17:17used to distribute aid. He says people
00:17:18people were queuing up there every
00:17:21every week waiting for food parcels parcels and that that's when it was
00:17:24was hit. That's why at least 18 people
00:17:27people are reported killed. He's He's offered his condolences to their
00:17:30their families. He says five people people have been injured and a rescue
00:17:34rescue operation is still under way way and a search is continuing there.
00:17:38there. He said that this has shown
00:17:41shown what Russia's true intentions
00:17:43intentions are that even though the
00:17:45the humanitarian ceasefire had been been respected in the Kherson region
00:17:48region around Oleshky over the past
00:17:50past few days, six days that ceasefire ceasefire was in place, he said.
00:17:54said. The fact that this sort of of attack had just been carried out
00:17:56out by Russia showed that progress
00:18:00progress towards peace was not possible, possible, that Russia was sending
00:18:02sending an entirely opposite Signal Signal and that Russia is counting
00:18:06counting on more killings, he said said there must be a response to
00:18:10to this, a response from the world. world. Russian attacks have continued
00:18:14continued across the country and and presumably the reasons the sirens
00:18:17sirens are now sounding here in Kyiv Kyiv this evening means that there
00:18:20there are more Russian missiles or
00:18:23or drones heading towards this city.
00:18:25city. Of course, it's been a day day of complication for the air raid
00:18:29raid alert system here because of of what people experienced last night
00:18:32night through the Air Raid Alert Alert app, there were a series of
00:18:35of fake warnings that were issued
00:18:38issued through the app warning people
00:18:40people of potential chemical attack attack of a radiation, warning of
00:18:44of artillery shelling and even combat combat in the streets. So people
00:18:48people were questioning the reliability
00:18:50reliability of the alerts that are are issued through their phones.
00:18:54phones. The air raid sirens were were not compromised as part of that.
00:18:57that. So the hope of officials is is that people will still pay heed
00:19:01heed to the air raid sirens when
00:19:03when they sound because they are are a warning of a genuine impending
00:19:07impending threat. And this is what what people are living with right
00:19:10right across Ukraine day and night. night. It's why there's so much weariness
00:19:14weariness with the alert system, system, because it sounds sometimes
00:19:17sometimes up to 20 times a day, which which is disrupting people's lives
00:19:20lives even when it's warning of a a real Russian attack. People have
00:19:24have become so weary that they don't
00:19:25don't always take action in response
00:19:28response to the sirens. So Ukrainian Ukrainian officials, having experienced
00:19:31experienced that hack last night, night, that cyber attack on the system,
00:19:35system, are hoping to secure that
00:19:37that system so that people can have have faith in it so that they take
00:19:41take action when the sirens sound. sound. Well, as Dan just mentioned
00:19:45mentioned there, both Russia and and Ukraine reported those cyber
00:19:48cyber attacks on their apps designed designed to warn people of incoming incoming drone attacks. With more
00:19:51more on that side of the story, Joe
00:19:53Joe Inwood reports. There are parts
00:19:57parts of Ukraine where this is still
00:19:59still the reality of war in the 21st
00:20:0121st century. They call this her her son's kill zone, an area along
00:20:05along the front lines inaccessible inaccessible for most of the war.
00:20:08war. Until last week, a brief humanitarian
00:20:11humanitarian ceasefire that allowed allowed rescue teams to get to people
00:20:14people who had been entirely cut
00:20:18cut off like Natalia. You can see see my house has been damaged by
00:20:22by drones, she says. The 53-year-old 53-year-old is one of a handful of
00:20:25of people who stayed in the village village of Coxsackie. Her life has
00:20:29has been reduced to basic survival
00:20:31survival drinking, rainwater, gathering
00:20:33gathering firewood and staying alive.
00:20:37alive. They've dropped mines everywhere. everywhere. You can't get through.
00:20:40through. I gather firewood for my
00:20:42my stove. I don't hide if a drone drone hovers over me for too long.
00:20:46long. I come out holding a white
00:20:49white cloth. The ceasefire has given
00:20:54given her some respite, but she knows
00:20:55knows it is only temporary. We need
00:21:03need silence. We need to talk and and negotiate. Because war in the
00:21:06the 21st century is nonsense. And
00:21:09And modern war is presenting a whole whole new set of challenges for those
00:21:12those fighting it. Warnings of attacks attacks like this are usually sent
00:21:14sent to an app that many Ukrainians
00:21:16Ukrainians use. But last night it
00:21:19it appears to have been hacked, sending sending dire warnings of fighting
00:21:23fighting in the streets of an impending impending chemical weapons attack,
00:21:27attack, even of a nuclear strike. strike. None of it was real. And
00:21:30And on the streets of Kyiv, people
00:21:32people seem to have taken it in their
00:21:35their stride. On the one hand, you
00:21:39you can laugh about it, but on the the other they were able to hack
00:21:42hack the programme, but it did not not trigger the kind of reaction
00:21:45reaction in society that they expected. expected. Speaking at a meeting in
00:21:49in Brussels, the UK's Defence Secretary Secretary warned the hack was part
00:21:52part of a wider threat. We don't
00:21:55don't yet know who is behind this
00:21:57this particular cyber attack in Ukraine. Ukraine. We'll follow those developments
00:22:00developments closely. But what we're we're in no doubt about is that right
00:22:04right across Europe we have seen,
00:22:06seen, you know, these hybrid or state
00:22:08state sponsored terrorist attacks
00:22:11attacks driven by Moscow. But it's it's also reported that a similar
00:22:14similar message was sent to Russians, Russians, which apparently read risk
00:22:18risk things could get lively. Don't Don't worry. Nuclear warheads have
00:22:21have been launched at all regions regions of Russia. It's not yet confirmed
00:22:25confirmed who was behind either message message back with the rescue teams
00:22:28teams in Kherson and what was the the most successful ceasefire of
00:22:31of the war has now come to an end.
00:22:34end. The realities of conflict in
00:22:36in the 21st century once again upon
00:22:38upon those who lived through it,
00:22:41it, Joe Inwood, BBC News. Well, let's let's speak now to Victor Zhora,
00:22:44Zhora, who's former deputy head of of Ukraine's national defensive cyber
00:22:48cyber operations and now serves the the Ukrainian army in the southern
00:22:51southern region of Mykolaiv Oblast. Oblast. Thank you so much for joining joining us, Viktor. And let me ask
00:22:55ask you first of all, as we heard heard there from Joe, we don't know
00:22:58know who was behind these cyber messages, messages, but the impact psychologically
00:23:02psychologically is clear, isn't it?
00:23:04it? Absolutely. We don't know who
00:23:07who exactly it was, but it's obvious
00:23:10obvious that it was made by Russian Russian hackers often associated
00:23:14associated with the state and backed
00:23:15backed by state. Why? Because they
00:23:22they continue threatening Ukrainian
00:23:23Ukrainian people. So it is another
00:23:27another psychological attack which which is combined with conventional conventional attacks. And this is
00:23:30is a hybrid war conducted by Russia,
00:23:33Russia, who for more than 12 years.
00:23:37years. And now we see the combination
00:23:40combination of cyber in information
00:23:44information operation and unfortunately unfortunately conventional missile missile strikes. Let's talk a little
00:23:47little bit about the impact of sorry,
00:23:50sorry, I just want to ask. You that's
00:23:53that's a typical that's a typical typical technique of Russian military.
00:23:56military. Absolutely. Viktor, let let me ask you a little bit now about
00:23:59about the dangers of doing this because, because, you know, normally in these
00:24:02these kinds of systems, these public
00:24:04public warning systems, they're considered
00:24:06considered off limits normally, aren't
00:24:08aren't they, by hackers, by other,
00:24:11other, you know, parties. The risks
00:24:13risks of actually using these systems systems now in this way are great,
00:24:17great, aren't they? Because it could could mean that citizens in the future future ignore messages like this
00:24:21this if they think they've been hacked
00:24:23hacked again. Well, anyway, the sound
00:24:26sound alerting system runs in parallel,
00:24:29parallel, so it's not an issue. And
00:24:32And as it was said, there are multiple
00:24:35multiple roles within several tens tens of alerts per day and people
00:24:39people can check this. Whether in
00:24:40in app or in other media. For instance,
00:24:43instance, Telegram channel, they
00:24:45they can check this in other apps
00:24:47apps as well. So the hack of this
00:24:52this particular app is of course
00:24:53course an unpleasant thing. But I
00:24:56I don't think it can cause a significant
00:25:00significant impact on the entire
00:25:01entire psychological state of Ukrainians Ukrainians because I believe that
00:25:05that a few of them. Believe that
00:25:09that this was the truthful information
00:25:12information received from the app app yesterday. Viktor, thank you
00:25:15you very much indeed for taking the
00:25:17the time to speak to us. Thank you.
00:25:22you. Dozens of supermarkets across across six European countries have
00:25:25have been hit by a suspected cyber
00:25:27cyber attack affecting their refrigerators refrigerators and freezers. Around
00:25:30Around 40 supermarkets were hit in in Belgium and Luxembourg and a smaller
00:25:34smaller number of shops were hit hit in Sweden, Ireland, Estonia and
00:25:37and the Netherlands. It's believed believed the attack used the same same method as last month's incident
00:25:41incident that hit hundreds of French French supermarkets, where hackers
00:25:44hackers turned the machines to defrost.
00:25:46defrost. Nick Beake has the latest.
00:25:51latest. Everything must go. Not a a sale but a binning of once frozen
00:25:55frozen food. Just some of the damage
00:25:57damage in this latest cyber attack attack to hit European supermarkets.
00:26:01supermarkets. All that you can see see here is having to be thrown away.
00:26:04away. But come and have a look at at this because it tells the story.
00:26:06story. The boss of this supermarket supermarket just outside Brussels
00:26:10Brussels reckons that about 100,000 100,000 worth of produce is having
00:26:14having to be thrown away. That's
00:26:17That's more than £80,000 worth of
00:26:18of stock. So here we've got ice creams,
00:26:22creams, pizza all that useless. Now
00:26:25Now this is one of 40 Delhaize stores
00:26:28stores in Belgium hit by the attack attack which boosted the temperature
00:26:31temperature of fridges and freezers
00:26:34freezers to 50 Celsius in Sweden Sweden and five more European countries.
00:26:38countries. The same cyber hack switched switched on the defrost mode, making
00:26:42making the food warm up. In some
00:26:47some organisation has hacked into into the temperature monitor system
00:26:50system for refrigerators and freezers. freezers. They've gained access and
00:26:52and tampered with settings and the the like. It's insane. I don't see
00:26:55see where they stand to gain from from it. It's a form of terrorism terrorism really. Terrorism that
00:26:59that are you. Cyber security agencies agencies from the affected countries
00:27:03countries are now trying to work work out who was behind this. We
00:27:07We definitely should be worried about. about. This happening again. It's It's not the first time that it's
00:27:11it's happening. It has happened just just a couple of weeks ago in France France and now it's happening throughout
00:27:15throughout the rest of Europe. It's It's thought many supermarkets had
00:27:19had tried to tighten their security security since the French cyber attacks
00:27:23attacks last month. But once again, again, hackers have caused disruption
00:27:26disruption and damages running into
00:27:29into millions of euros. Nick Beake.
00:27:32Beake. BBC News Brussels. Right, Right, we're coming to the end of
00:27:35of this half of the show, but if if we have time, let's take you briefly
00:27:38briefly to Capitol Hill and Washington, Washington, DC because of course,
00:27:41course, today is the final day of of campaigning ahead of Tuesday's
00:27:45Tuesday's midterm elections in the
00:27:48the US we have 435 seats in the House House of Representatives and 35 seats
00:27:51seats in the Senate up for grabs. grabs. Polls suggest the Democrats
00:27:54Democrats set to win back the House House and have a good chance, potentially,
00:27:58potentially, of taking the Senate,
00:27:59Senate, too. So we'll be across this this story here on BBC News. But
00:28:03But now we're going to take a short short break. The Iran
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