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00:00:00when it first came to the market, it was supposed to be a practical car for
00:00:03ordinary people. A car that, for example, farmers could take
00:00:07four people around with them, transport 50 kilos of potatoes with it,
00:00:11and not have to worry about the car breaking down.
00:00:15The goal was to make car ownership and transportation easier for everyone.
00:00:18Now we are pursuing the exact same goal. We hope that those
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00:00:39And now on BBC Persian Television, documentary.
00:00:55it really is a fundamental transformation of civilization as we know it.
00:01:00workers who never rest or miss a
00:01:02shift. there's no driver.
00:01:06heading
00:01:08to ch. that is a weird
00:01:12thing.
00:01:15we've always created more jobs at the end of will robots increase productivity
00:01:19and make us richer?
00:01:22you can only get better. of course, the are risks, of course the are fears, but
00:01:26i am very bullish about the future. or will
00:01:29they... Take our jobs,
00:01:33make us poorer.
00:01:36Does that mean some people will be out of work? Yes, of course, and
00:01:39anyone says otherwise is just not being honest.
00:01:59The world. is about to be
00:02:01transformed
00:02:05by robots with artificial
00:02:07intelligence.
00:02:12Billions are being spent making
00:02:15machines like this:
00:02:16stronger, more
00:02:20dexturous, more
00:02:23intelligent.
00:02:29went through and asked, which one of It's definitely the star of industry. revolution
00:02:32and I think the speed of this is at light speed compared to
00:02:36previous technology, so I think this multi- trillion dollar global market is
00:02:39going to take place and it's going to fall right under
00:02:42robotics.
00:02:51The age of the robot is
00:02:53here. My
00:02:56god, hello.
00:03:00Wow, you're just like a little person. Hello,
00:03:04pleased to meet you. This is Koide, robot made in
00:03:08China and sold here in the US from around
00:03:11$20,000. What can you do with your arms then, coy, show me what you
00:03:15can, show me your tricks? Oh, very
00:03:17good, bit of clapping. What
00:03:21else?
00:03:28So, it can dance.
00:03:30It can also run and has amazing
00:03:33balance.
00:03:37This is the first humanoid robot I've met and it
00:03:40is, it's sort of genuinely
00:03:42weird, it's sort of really impressive and a bit frightening at the same
00:03:46time.
00:03:54It looks good, but this humanoid robot
00:03:58doesn't think for itself.
00:04:05"its movements have been pre-programmed and are
00:04:08controlled by an
00:04:09operator.
00:04:15the machines could become robot workforce
00:04:18operated remotely from countries where wages are much
00:04:22lower.
00:04:26we can almost have people sitting in almost call
00:04:28alone. If we come back in centers and being strapped up to..." mimicking devices for teleoperation and
00:04:32operating in a warehouse right? and it's almost like you could build the whole
00:04:35industry off that, you could have very cheap labor, maybe in countries where it's
00:04:39cheaper than you in Europe or the United States, doing the labor, but controlled by
00:04:42somebody where labor is lot cheaper, it's like outsource physical labor, which is pretty crazy to
00:04:46think
00:04:46about,
00:04:51and that raises one very big
00:04:54question, are robots about to
00:04:58take your job?
00:05:02This is me here,
00:05:06that's my waymo, this is a driverless
00:05:09taxi, look, that's got my name on the...
00:05:12roof, that's RB, that's me on the
00:05:15roof.
00:05:19hello, hi there. so it said, hi
00:05:23there, richard. okay, so it says uh, good afternoon
00:05:26Richard, start ride, i'm going to close the
00:05:29door and i'm going to start the
00:05:32ride.
00:05:35there's no driver, heading to chase
00:05:37center,
00:05:42that is a... weird thing to feel,
00:05:56this is what robots can do when they're powered with
00:05:59artificial intelligence,
00:06:02a machine that can think for itself working the
00:06:05streets of San
00:06:06Francisco.
00:06:10Waymo has around a thousand. them here and they've become part
00:06:14of city life, there's no driver, this is all
00:06:18automatic, and this is kind of wow, it's not
00:06:21afraid to go a bit faster,
00:06:33I've been in it now what a minute and you do
00:06:36think it's in control, we've stopped at a crossing, we've gone through
00:06:39roadworks, stopping a junction now.
00:06:44There's another one coming the other
00:06:45way,
00:06:52yeah, look, it's all starting to feel
00:06:54normal,
00:07:04don't forget your phone, keys, or
00:07:06what?
00:07:12I mean, "I enjoyed it, I
00:07:15enjoyed it, but it's very,
00:07:19very weird at the beginning, it's really weird to be in a car that's just
00:07:22flicking the wheel, using the indicator,
00:07:26just driving itself
00:07:27around.
00:07:33Waymo cars already operate in 10
00:07:36US cities, the plan is to have them on
00:07:40London's roads by the end of this year.
00:07:44"I would say that, they're more like uh the most, the
00:07:48safest, most competent driver uh that you've ever been with, they're
00:07:52paying attention all the time, they're never drunk, they're never texting, um, and they're
00:07:56able to react really at split second uh notice to anything uh that might
00:08:00come around. Do you worry that you're taking jobs away from people?
00:08:03Certainly, I think we're expecting that AI is going to change the world in many,
00:08:07many different ways, but we haven't yet seen data that, jobs or
00:08:10employment in these areas." is necessarily going to fall off
00:08:13cliff.
00:08:17It hasn't all been
00:08:18perfect.
00:08:21One customer started filming when the car went wrong.
00:08:25It's circling around a parking lot.
00:08:28I got my seat belt on, I can't get out the car. Has this been hacked? What's
00:08:32going on? I feel like I'm in the movies. Is
00:08:35somebody playing a joke on me? And I got a flight to
00:08:38cats.
00:08:42Last year Waymo reported around 600
00:08:46incidents from low speed bumps to more serious
00:08:49collisions.
00:08:53Wahimo says its data from the past five years
00:08:56suggests the robot taxes are 10 times
00:08:59safer than human driven
00:09:01vehicles.
00:09:07Waymo is the most mature manifestation of AI in the
00:09:11physical world. "I think that for the vast
00:09:14majority of our driving, it's a chore, it's a burden for
00:09:17many uh uh for many folks, and I think if there's an opportunity to get rid of that and
00:09:21give that time back in society, then we should take that
00:09:24opportunity.
00:09:28There's around 120,000
00:09:31licensed taxi and private hire drivers in
00:09:34London. In the US, there's more than half
00:09:37million taxi drivers
00:09:41a couple of years..." will these guys even be
00:09:44here?
00:09:46we've come to look at waymo, you know the driverless cars, it's the
00:09:50ghost car,
00:09:53yeah, it's a ghost car, i
00:09:56don't know what the cd, what the government is thinking, does it
00:10:00make you angry? of course, we are in a
00:10:04AI era now, you know, technology gonna
00:10:07take a lot of you, not only is taxi, you know, what do you say to the people
00:10:11who use the waymost too? why should they stick with people and reject machines?
00:10:15when they break down don't come to
00:10:16us.
00:10:26the US along with China, leads the way on
00:10:30robotics and
00:10:31AI.
00:10:37What's happening here in California will affect all our
00:10:41lives,
00:10:45and in cities like Los Angeles, AI powered
00:10:48robots are moving door to
00:10:50door.
00:10:54So, I'm... just ordered a cheeseburger for
00:10:57delivering and I want to sit here and I'm going to wait for it to
00:11:01arrive.
00:11:06bouncing towards me is robot a
00:11:09mission. This could be
00:11:12it.
00:11:14Similar machines have been trialed in England. It's
00:11:18a big market. There's thought to be around
00:11:22100,000 restaurant delivery drivers. in the
00:11:25UK, pretty much at every juncture in the
00:11:29past, when new technology has been introduced, people have worried about
00:11:32jobs fairly, um, what has happened is yes, there has been
00:11:36displacement, jobs have evolved, but net
00:11:40the day. of course there are risks, of course there are fears, but
00:11:44I am very bullish about the
00:11:45future.
00:11:51One study estimated that 60% of jobs... done in
00:11:55the US didn't even exist in
00:11:581940,
00:12:01so our robots, job takers or job
00:12:04makers.
00:12:08i think it's always possible to come up with an outcome where which is very
00:12:11unequal, which is very
00:12:15uh unfair to a large portion of the population, but
00:12:18it doesn't have to be that way.
00:12:22james besson studies how technology, changes the way we
00:12:26work,
00:12:29concerns about computers replacing
00:12:32humans have been around since the 60s, so I in
00:12:36fact looked at the
00:12:391950
00:12:40census,
00:12:46they had some 250 some occupations,
00:12:50detailed occupations that were listed, and I
00:12:54these? appeared because of automation, and
00:12:57it turns out there was only one, it was the elevator
00:13:00operator.
00:13:06He says, the lesson from history is new
00:13:08technology expands the
00:13:10economy and creates new
00:13:13jobs.
00:13:17It's just a mistake to think that this technology comes in and
00:13:20replaces the humans and everything else stays the same. It's not what
00:13:23happens.
00:13:30Back in California, someone who has a more radical
00:13:34view. Egdill is one of the
00:13:38founders of mechanized ink, a tech
00:13:41startup that teaches AI how to do specific
00:13:44jobs. He thinks AI later
00:13:48combined with robots will replace us all within
00:13:51decades. Our goal is to...
00:13:55the data products that enable the automation of the
00:13:58economy, so it means that whatever jobs that
00:14:01humans are doing right now, we want AI to get good enough that it
00:14:05can replace humans at those jobs, so so you want to
00:14:08optimize the whole workforce, yeah, how will you do
00:14:12that, how's that possible? i think it's going to take a while uh,
00:14:16it's not going to be very easy, but the it it
00:14:20also won't just be done by us, so we see ourselves as playing uh
00:14:23parts in a much.
00:14:25process,
00:14:30it started
00:14:31already.
00:14:34Amazon has an army of robots a million
00:14:38worldwide.
00:14:41Documents leaked from inside Amazon last year
00:14:45suggested the company wants 75%
00:14:48automation,
00:14:51which would mean hundreds of thousands of jobs that could have been.
00:14:55created wouldn't be needed.
00:14:59Amazon said the plans didn't represent its overall hiring
00:15:03strategy.
00:15:09But it isn't just manual work being taken by
00:15:13machines.
00:15:16Office jobs are also under threat from
00:15:18AI. AI models they are very good at
00:15:22at this point like reading large amounts of document. and summarizing
00:15:26what's in them, we're going to see more junior white color
00:15:29jobs get automated, how soon? and i think it's already
00:15:33happening.
00:15:38An estimated 70% of UK
00:15:41workers are in occupations containing tasks that
00:15:44AI could potentially perform or
00:15:46enhance.
00:15:51One survey of company bosses suggests AI
00:15:54is already replacing more jobs in the UK than it's
00:15:57creating.
00:16:03AI can take a thousand documents and get bowl point list of what's in them
00:16:06in you know. a couple minutes right or less, so I think
00:16:10in the same way humanode robots, if we achieve that potential have the
00:16:14potential to do simple tasks that humans can do
00:16:17now, right, they could automate that, which will change the the
00:16:21reflection of the workforce, absolutely, yeah, and does that
00:16:24mean some people will be out of work? yes of course, and anyone says
00:16:28otherwise is just not being
00:16:30honest.
00:16:36some skilled. jobs like a plumber or a car
00:16:40mechanic are not about to be replaced by humanoid
00:16:43robot for
00:16:46now
00:16:50Jimmy here is showing the robot what to do by moving his arms as he moves his
00:16:54right arm it's moving the right robot arm as he moves his head
00:16:58it's moving the robot head and you can just demonstrate the task and the
00:17:01robot learns from what you're showing it so it's not that he's controlling
00:17:05it it's the it's the robot
00:17:08Exactly.
00:17:10This machine is using AI. It's learning how
00:17:14to move different objects by repeating task over
00:17:18and
00:17:18over.
00:17:23It's called reinforce learning and is how most
00:17:26AI robots are
00:17:28taught.
00:17:32It means this welding machine can make decisions for
00:17:35itself.
00:17:38Initially it requires lot of training data and we're working with uh
00:17:42expert welders across the country to effectively train this welding AI
00:17:46model so that it can weld anything just like master welder
00:17:49could. The US, like many
00:17:53developed economies has a shortage of skilled
00:17:56labor. You talk to any manufacturer here in the
00:18:00US, you hear the same challenge again and again, finding good labor. We've
00:18:03deployed hundreds of robots. We haven't seen a single customer.
00:18:07uh, let go of a worker when they bought
00:18:10robot,
00:18:16but what about when a humanoid robot worker
00:18:20arrives?
00:18:23figure AI say their robots worked 1200
00:18:26hours on 10-hour shifts
00:18:29during a trial a BMW plants in the
00:18:32U.S.
00:18:37so our humanoids about to take over in the
00:18:41workplace
00:18:44and walk into our homes.
00:18:48well, when left to work independently, today's
00:18:51humanoids can struggle with the most basic
00:18:54tasks.
00:18:58there's nothing wrong with being aspirational. i think where it
00:19:02crosses the line is when the
00:19:05aspirational statements get into the real of that's not
00:19:08possible, i can't get behind someone saying, in the next two years
00:19:12we're going to play 10 million robots in homes,
00:19:15like i know that's not physically
00:19:18possible, but it feels like lot of the
00:19:21players going after the home market, it's like the wild wild
00:19:24west.
00:19:30right now, AI powered humanoids are still in their
00:19:34infancy?
00:19:37It's expensive research, so more
00:19:40investment is always needed.
00:19:44The idea that machines can replace humans is something
00:19:47that's fascinated humans, and unfortunately what that means is
00:19:51it's a very ripe pickings for hype. It's
00:19:54a way of selling the company, it's a way of making that company seem valuable. If investors
00:19:58start thinking that they're very close to the real
00:20:02thing, uh, they pour money into
00:20:04it.
00:20:09'These humanoid robots look
00:20:11independent,
00:20:14but they're remotely controlled, pre-programmed
00:20:17machines,
00:20:20a long way from the sci-fi vision of
00:20:23autonomous sentient robots.
00:20:27There's a new video every day of robot doing something cool, dancing,
00:20:30running, backflipping, all those things, and
00:20:34the problem is when it comes to the day-to-day task doing things'. like
00:20:37opening a door, we don't have a humanoid robot that can robustly open
00:20:41doors right now, mean, not even that basic thing,
00:20:45right?
00:20:51"and if we can't open a door, we probably can't have humanoid deployed in
00:20:55your house doing all the other things, right? it can't even get in your
00:20:57house,
00:21:06but that is changing. here at
00:21:09the California Institute of Technology, they are
00:21:12pioneering a new way of teaching
00:21:15robots.
00:21:18the key novelty to this..." humanoid is, it's a normal sort of off
00:21:22the shelf humanoid, yeah, but we've added some additional processing, you can see in
00:21:26its chest there, this is actually a full like desktop computer that we put top of
00:21:30it,
00:21:34this one is designed for emergency
00:21:37rescue. the idea is we'd like to take something like this into
00:21:41let's say fire fighting situations, right? so there's a
00:21:44building, it's on fire, the human only can walk in the building itself, but the
00:21:48drone could surve the building. really quickly,
00:21:50right?
00:21:57here they're looking at ways to make robots safer in the
00:22:01real world. instead of following pre-programmed
00:22:05actions, the robots can work out the movements for
00:22:08themselves.
00:22:10i think that physics have the information we need, that rather than teaching the robot to emulate a
00:22:14human, we should teach robot to understand the physics, and by
00:22:17understanding the physics it can know how to run lots of different ways and do lots of different actions
00:22:21and
00:22:26this is what's coming:
00:22:30safety driven AI guarantees the robot dog avoids
00:22:34collisions. it's computer brain can
00:22:37see, think and work out how to get around
00:22:41objects and people. this
00:22:43is the robot reacting in its own way to
00:22:47information from the environment, right? and so... and it's
00:22:50doing it in a seemingly very natural way,
00:22:53yes, but it's all a function of math, it's deciding where to go, yep, it's
00:22:57deciding where to go and how to avoid you, doesn't like me, multiple people, doesn't
00:23:01like anybody, in fact that's the way it works right, you
00:23:04can do this where you, it is, you come in slow and it seems to almost for
00:23:08second, it's like, it feels like something that's
00:23:11alive, it's a step to autonomy, but also a step
00:23:14safety, yeah, and making robots that people feel
00:23:18comfortable around around, so...
00:23:20no longer scared of this robot, right? yeah, you now almost feel sorry for
00:23:24it. yeah, do, and i think if we can cross that divide where people
00:23:27can feel for robots, then it
00:23:30opens the window to having robots around us in our daily lives in
00:23:34constructive ways. that that's that's
00:23:36incredible.
00:23:38cool. what do you think? that's my favorite. it's
00:23:40extraordinary.
00:23:52Our lives will change.
00:23:56Meta, which owns Facebook, says it's spending
00:23:59$135 billion dollars this year on
00:24:02AI and expects AI to change the way we
00:24:06work.
00:24:09Elon Musk predicts robots will replace us as
00:24:12workers and make work
00:24:15an optional
00:24:16hobby.
00:24:21"all sounds great, doesn't it? but there are one or two things we
00:24:24need to work out before we all start relaxing,
00:24:27like where is our money going to come from if we're not
00:24:30working?
00:24:36if AI driven robots do the work, won't the tech
00:24:39companies that control them take most of the
00:24:42gains?
00:24:46mechanizing says workers around the world.
00:24:50currently paid about 50 trillion
00:24:52pounds.
00:24:55It thinks Big Tech could eventually replace them
00:24:59all
00:25:01and capture most of that
00:25:03cash. Is that ethical to pursue
00:25:07that? I think it's ethical in general for people to try to make money. I
00:25:11would say that
00:25:13uh, people becoming unemployed is obviously a cost,
00:25:17but you have to trade that off against the benefits. The... economy instead of
00:25:20doubling every 20, 30 years could go to doubling like every
00:25:24year.
00:25:30this argument for ever greater automation is
00:25:33being driven by tech
00:25:35companies,
00:25:38but their robots aren't ready to take over
00:25:42yet.
00:25:45money isn't going to really be made by taking
00:25:49a worker way and putting robot
00:25:53in, that's small
00:25:55potatoes,
00:25:57where the real payoff to the technology is is where the
00:26:01technology and... humans working together can do
00:26:04much more than they did
00:26:06before.
00:26:09i think that building technology and
00:26:12advancing our capabilities as humanity
00:26:15is always to our benefit. we have an
00:26:18opportunity to change the world and to
00:26:22basically raise everyone
00:26:24up.
00:26:32The robots are coming, they
00:26:36will transform the
00:26:37workplace.
00:26:41So what happens to us if they're doing most of the work?
00:28:01We had sheep when the lake had water,
00:28:04we had 200 sheep. Now we have
00:28:08200 sheep. When the Hamoun had water,
00:28:12it was abundant. You can see
00:28:14a drop of rainwater for these camels.
00:28:18Now it's dry, there's no water. Hamoun is for its
00:28:21people. Hamoun once,
00:28:25this week on
00:28:26Aparat.
00:28:41It's been a few months since the internet was reconnected, but in practice, many VPNs still work with difficulty
00:28:44or disconnect frequently. The reality is that the internet in Iran has not yet returned to its state before
00:28:48the massacre and war. So what's the situation? Monitoring groups say that
00:28:52users in Iran can still connect to the internet with a fragile
00:28:56and exhausting connection, but even the so-called
00:28:59national internet, or the internet that the Iranian government is encouraging
00:29:03or forcing people to use, after all these restrictions
00:29:06and price increases, still hasn't been able to replace the internet for many
00:29:10people. A survey conducted by ISPA tells us that
00:29:1471% of users are still using foreign social networks.
00:29:18Of course, the dominant pattern is that they usually have an account on at least
00:29:22one of the local platforms or local messengers and also use foreign social networks.
00:29:25The reason for their use of those local platforms, I think,
00:29:29is also clear because from approximately last winter
00:29:33to this spring, almost half of this period we did not have access to
00:29:36international internet. We faced various types of filtering, restrictions
00:29:40were intensified, and in addition to that, we still cannot call this
00:29:44an optional choice for local platforms because many
00:29:47users are still forced to use these local platforms
00:29:51or local messengers for various administrative, educational, and medical
00:29:55services. There are several other interesting data points that
00:29:58clarify the situation of platforms. One is that
00:30:0274% still stated in
00:30:04this survey that they use VPNs, and a question was asked about
00:30:08which platform is their priority for unfiltering.
00:30:11Around 48% named Instagram, and
00:30:14around 21% named Telegram.
00:30:18Therefore, we can conclude that the ISPA survey data tells
00:30:22us that the policies of internet shutdown, intensified filtering, and all these
00:30:26have not yet been able to deter users or
00:30:30push them towards using local platforms.
00:30:34And now on BBC Persian Television, Lifestyle.
00:30:41و حالا در تلویزیون فارسی بی بی سی سبک زندگی.
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