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00:00:00He is from all members of his cabinet and rarely can he
00:00:04say something that is against his views in this way. Can it
00:00:07mean that Mr. Trump, if J.D. Vance wants to run in the
00:00:11next election, is already giving signs
00:00:15that he will support
00:00:16him?
00:00:21Now, in my opinion, it is too early to determine whether
00:00:25Mr. Trump will support J.D. Vance
00:00:28or not. I want to mention a point that in
00:00:32fact, if you allow me, I will
00:00:35just go back to the speech of one of
00:00:38the dear guests regarding two
00:00:42points: Israel and the issue of
00:00:45necessary war. Anyway, my opinion, and
00:00:48I have written this many times and
00:00:51referred to it in other places, in my opinion,
00:00:55this
00:00:58war, that is, what Mr. Trump did,
00:01:02was not to start a war with Iran; he actually
00:01:05wanted to end the war that Iran
00:01:09had started. This was a
00:01:13necessary war, not a
00:01:15discretionary war. It was a
00:01:19necessary war. But the war that Iran
00:01:22had started was proxy wars because we know that
00:01:24America directly attacked Iran, right?
00:01:27The war that Iran
00:01:40declared war on four axes in the Islamic
00:01:44Republic. First, against
00:01:47America; second,
00:01:50against Israel; third, against
00:01:53modernity. You have the fatwa against Salman
00:01:57Rushdie, and fourth, against
00:02:00the majority of their own people
00:02:03who do not accept the Islamic Republic. This is a
00:02:07permanent war. That is, in fact, the mistake that in
00:02:11America, well, meaning a
00:02:14mistake in understanding, is that Americans
00:02:17talk about "forever wars," but in
00:02:21reality, yes, a comprehensive
00:02:25war, comprehensive, but in
00:02:28reality, that war is comprehensive.
00:02:30In fact, it is Iran that has declared war. The Islamic Republic
00:02:33has declared war against
00:02:36America. For 47 years,
00:02:39you imagine only two
00:02:43countries. But in any case, the US midterm elections showed
00:02:46that the American people do not like
00:02:50that America attacked Iran, and it was a
00:02:53very unpopular war. According to every poll you look at, more than
00:02:5760-65% oppose this war in America.
00:03:00Yes, that's right.
00:03:04Yes, that's right. Of course, the polls that have come
00:03:07out now make this issue a bit more complex.
00:03:11That is, in fact, dissatisfaction with economic
00:03:14issues always has priority,
00:03:18and I said, I repeat the issue again.
00:03:22Look, the leader of a country
00:03:25must bear the cost that
00:03:28this country must endure.
00:03:30He must present it to the people, he must explain it,
00:03:33he must show this framework so that you
00:03:37imagine you say that you, that is, in
00:03:41fact, this one extra dollar at
00:03:44the gas pump is actually a type of insurance
00:03:48payment. This is insurance. Imagine
00:03:51that the Islamic Republic, which from America's
00:03:55point of view is the biggest
00:03:56terrorist government in the world.
00:04:00That is, in fact, this issue is not a slogan; it is in American
00:04:04law. That is, in fact, the opinion of the Islamic Republic
00:04:07from Tehran
00:04:10too. I, I just want to say this point, that is, in
00:04:14fact,
00:04:17look, in fact, the Islamic Republic, all
00:04:21American presidents, from
00:04:24Bush to Obama to Biden, all said
00:04:28that we will not allow the Islamic Republic to acquire
00:04:31nuclear weapons. But the Islamic Republic
00:04:35has continuously said that it has no intention of acquiring nuclear
00:04:38weapons. Yes, it doesn't. They officially
00:04:41said so.
00:04:44The Islamic Republic, this claim that we know from
00:04:47the documents that Mossad
00:04:49took from Iran, with
00:04:53all the equipment and with all
00:04:57those documents that were in the Tehran warehouse, showed
00:05:00that it was a pure lie, and the Islamic
00:05:03Republic still today, if
00:05:06indeed the Islamic Republic has no intention
00:05:10of developing nuclear weapons,
00:05:14why does it not allow all
00:05:17atomic agency inspectors to go everywhere? Why?
00:05:21Let's get back to the topic of the program, which is directly
00:05:25related to the US midterm elections. I mean,
00:05:29yes, my point is that my point is
00:05:31very
00:05:33yes, this is actually, well, my point is that this
00:05:37election is actually part
00:05:40of this.
00:05:47Explaining the necessity of this war. Now,
00:05:49I would say this was a necessary war,
00:05:52but then it was planned, then
00:05:56it was implemented, and that's why now
00:06:00the Islamic Republic, that is, America, is trapped.
00:06:03It couldn't, yes, it was implemented to such an extent that even some American publications say that
00:06:07America wanted to carry out regime change in Iran,
00:06:10but in practice, the Islamic Republic in America has carried out regime change.
00:06:14Mr. Mehdizadeh, now, as I said, let's go back to the topic
00:06:18of the elections and their results and their impact on events and
00:06:21developments in Iran. We know that the defeat of the Republicans in
00:06:25the elections has made many officials of the Islamic Republic much bolder. The statements
00:06:28they make are much more defiant. For example,
00:06:32Mojtaba Khamenei threatened America that if aggressions are repeated, war on
00:06:36a much wider scale, which will be trans-regional,
00:06:40will be carried out. Gholamhossein Mohseni Ejei, the head of the judiciary,
00:06:43wrote that we will definitely inflict more defeats on him, that is, Mr.
00:06:47Trump, that this is still from the results
00:06:51of dawn. And referring to the hostage-taking in
00:06:541979, he said that November 4th has always been a day of defeat
00:06:57for Americans. Does this mean that in
00:07:01fact, as I said, they have become much more defiant and determined
00:07:04regarding their demands from America, the officials of the Islamic
00:07:08Republic?
00:07:11One point, because in Iran, Mr. Tajbakhsh
00:07:14raised that they said the war was necessary. No,
00:07:18it was not necessary at all. International laws did not allow
00:07:21such a thing either. I think he has little knowledge of international
00:07:25laws. The International Atomic Energy Agency,
00:07:29in its last report that it sent, and that report actually
00:07:33caused the war, Mr. Grossi, who said that it was even
00:07:36biased, in that same report also emphasized that Iran did not
00:07:40move towards nuclear weapons. On the first
00:07:43day of the 40-day war, Mr. Chuck Schumer, as
00:07:47the leader of the Democratic minority in
00:07:51the Senate, declared that this was an election war.
00:07:54Mr. Trump's partner was someone whom the International
00:07:58Criminal Court had indicted for war
00:08:01crimes in Gaza, and the American people
00:08:04naturally rebelled. It was not just an economic issue. All these
00:08:08factors, plus the war crime in Minab
00:08:11al-Amart, the wedding ceremony
00:08:13in Sirik
00:08:17occurred. All these had global impact,
00:08:20provoking very strong reactions in America and around the world,
00:08:24causing this atrocity. Therefore, your repetition that this is a
00:08:27necessary war and Iran must be attacked, while 90
00:08:31million Iranians live in Iran, is a very
00:08:34crude statement.
00:08:36Mr. Mirizadeh, if you would
00:08:39answer my question, I would be grateful.
00:08:50Regarding the officials of the Islamic Republic, Mr. Khamenei,
00:08:53before these elections, in a meeting
00:08:57he had with military commanders, he also said,
00:09:00that is, Mr. Khamenei the father and Mr. Khamenei the son's
00:09:04positions have always been harsh towards America, and there too he said
00:09:07that if there is to be a war, it must
00:09:11be without limits.
00:09:23Officials of the Islamic Republic who want to challenge
00:09:26Trump, you also said in the early
00:09:29parts of the program that Trump's banner
00:09:32became Netanyahu's, which, of course, is a routine thing in
00:09:36the Islamic Republic, and
00:09:39that too on the eve of the US embassy, which I have always, as
00:09:42a journalist, declared that it was a
00:09:46historical tragedy for our Iranian nation,
00:09:50and I myself, as a journalist, have always said,
00:09:53"My God, I'm sorry," and I think the vast majority
00:09:56of the Iranian people say the same. But the fact that the rhetoric
00:10:00becomes harsher, the fact that it becomes harsher,
00:10:04this becomes very dangerous, Mr. Rajabian, because
00:10:07when Trump has lost and has
00:10:10started with bombs, not with negotiations, unlike
00:10:14Obama, he thinks that he must end it with bombs,
00:10:17and like a man who has gone up to his chest in
00:10:21a swamp and sees a branch in the middle, he won't turn back.
00:10:25He takes the risk and goes forward, although I think and
00:10:29I am sure that he cannot end it with bombs either, and
00:10:32worse, Mr. Hesami, what is your opinion
00:10:36about the question I asked? Do you think that after these, after these
00:10:39US midterm election results, will
00:10:42Iranian negotiators, if negotiations are underway and
00:10:45continue, have a longer tongue, so to speak,
00:10:49will they have more demands?
00:10:52It's interesting, look. Now, this discussion about
00:10:56the necessity of war or explaining war to the people is also a discussion
00:11:00that I disagree with, that this is the issue. But look,
00:11:03what was the goal of the attack and what is it? Let's not mind-read either.
00:11:07Let's see what the goal was. That is, what was the achievement
00:11:11of the 12-day war and the 38-day war?
00:11:15What did they want and what happened? Yes, and whatever the goal was, if this goal
00:11:18was, they had said many times that the goal was regime change, which they also changed
00:11:22later. Then they said it happened, then they said the goal was
00:11:25to eliminate Iran's atomic
00:11:29capabilities. Then they talked about missiles and ICBMs.
00:11:32Then they talked about what we should
00:11:35do about the Strait of Hormuz. The discussion of
00:11:39whether there will be a war or not and whether these negotiations, which are
00:11:43continuous, this issue, this issue has never
00:11:47stopped. But a narrative was presented
00:11:50by two countries to their own people that
00:11:53they have moved away from these two narratives and reached an understanding.
00:11:57When trust is zero, 48 years of
00:12:01trust is really zero. An effort was made during
00:12:04Rouhani and Zarif's time to make the JCPOA or this
00:12:07work happen. During Rafsanjani's time, it was also planned, if you remember,
00:12:11that one of Hashemi's plans was to normalize relations.
00:12:15Well, this confrontation and interaction with the Islamic Republic
00:12:19with America has been an issue from day one. But the
00:12:22possibility of war in these two months exists.
00:12:55The problems that have arisen, both electorally and
00:12:58factually in the region, and
00:13:01the damages that even regional countries have suffered,
00:13:05show America's inadequacy, that it cannot
00:13:08truly maintain regional security and that the superpower
00:13:11and hyperpower that is talked about is unable to do this.
00:13:15Now, this strengthens the hand of the Islamic Republic in the region, yes, but
00:13:18it does not mean that in
00:13:21fact, the main discussion, the nuclear issue
00:13:25of Iran, the issue of the Strait of Hormuz, and
00:13:28the issue of enriched uranium,
00:13:30that is still on the table. Now, let's
00:13:34think about an attack. What is the goal of the attack? Friends say a limited
00:13:37attack. Well, what do they want to hit? And the goal of that attack is
00:13:41whether some other reasonable people will come and sit at the negotiating
00:13:45table so that they can then... They are specifically saying that there is a high probability that they will hit
00:13:48the Kolaneng Gazla mountain, which is thought to have new nuclear
00:13:51facilities or that they are in the process of building them. So
00:13:57then Trump comes and says we succeeded, Iran's nuclear program
00:14:01is gone, now it's 20, 30, 50 years behind.
00:14:04Again, you have to sit at the negotiating table
00:14:08about whether the IAEA, about the NPT, I mean, nuclear proliferation, about the missile
00:14:12program and the Strait of Hormuz, to reach an agreement. Therefore,
00:14:15diplomacy during Netanyahu's time and during Trump's time
00:14:19was actually somewhat lost, and it's lost. The idea that war was necessary
00:14:23I don't see at all, not even from Israel's side. I don't see war as necessary.
00:14:27I know that for Israel, because the Islamic
00:14:31Republic not only says that it is increasing uranium
00:14:35enrichment, it also says we want the destruction of the Zionist
00:14:38country. These two are an issue
00:14:41for Israel, which becomes an imminent
00:14:44danger. But for America, and yes, but for
00:14:48America and, so to speak, Europe, well, the fact
00:14:52that they accept this in Europe, no, not in
00:15:03the Islamic Republic, they consider war a blessing. They even refer
00:15:05to the words of Imam Khamenei, so to speak, Ayatollah
00:15:09Khamenei, Khomeini, excuse me, and say that he said such a thing during
00:15:12the Iran-Iraq war, and in
00:15:15fact, some people say that the Islamic Republic thrives on
00:15:19crisis and its existence depends on creating crises.
00:15:22Some also think that perhaps this time
00:15:26Iranian officials look at this issue differently, because
00:15:29in recent wars where America and Israel attacked,
00:15:32leadership officials lost several layers of leadership,
00:15:36and if
00:15:39another war occurs, there is a high probability that their own lives are
00:15:42at risk. Consequently, they will probably avoid war.
00:15:46Let
00:15:48me elaborate on a few points regarding your question. First of
00:15:51all, war
00:15:54is a crisis that strengthens
00:15:58the sense of nationality in people and makes the government much
00:16:02stronger. This is what Netanyahu also wanted to do in Israel and
00:16:05gain popular support.
00:16:37I want to cut off $4 billion in aid to
00:16:41Israel. But this is the surface of the matter. In essence,
00:16:44this budget is being given to Israel through
00:16:48another channel, through the US military budget. When they approved
00:16:51the budget, there is an article in it that says: The Israeli
00:16:55army can practically be incorporated into the US army,
00:16:58have all military secrets, have access to
00:17:01the most advanced technology, have joint training,
00:17:05and all those military supplies.
00:17:09This is very dangerous for Iran, because Israel, with
00:17:13that direct and indirect aid and, so to speak,
00:17:16American technical aid, is again in danger. What the
00:17:20new Congress wants to do and what the people expect
00:17:24to be done is to
00:17:27change or remove this article. That is,
00:17:31practically, remove aid to the Israeli
00:17:35government for attacking Iran. You.
00:17:56Many of those who have recently been elected are in the left
00:17:59wing of the Democratic Party. That is, a wave of leftism has been created
00:18:03in America, which I call a kind of intellectual revolution, and they call it
00:18:06a political earthquake. And they are trying
00:18:10to purge and cleanse the right wing of
00:18:13the Democratic Party, to push them aside,
00:18:16and we hope that in two years, when the elections are held, this move
00:18:20to the left will continue a little longer. Therefore, a strong movement of
00:18:24the Democratic Party. That's right, as you said, until Biden's time, until
00:18:27the previous elections, they enjoyed
00:18:30the full support of the Israeli lobby. All
00:18:33their candidates were the ones who came to power. But now we see in
00:18:37Texas, which is strongly Republican,
00:18:40a teacher comes to power who says, "I am ashamed that our hands
00:18:44are stained with the blood of Palestinian children, and our tax money should not be spent on that." Therefore, this
00:18:48movement has started in the Democratic Party, and we hope that it will
00:18:51continue. And since we are approaching the end of the program, I wanted to
00:18:55hear the opinions of others on this same issue of Israel. Mr. Tajbakhsh, what is your opinion?
00:18:59I would like to make a point, please allow me, because I participated
00:19:03in the program, and Mr. Tajbakhsh spoke
00:19:06in such a way that it seemed he was Mr. Trump's
00:19:10defense lawyer, in a situation where Trump's own
00:19:14vice president is saying this war was a mistake, it led to this.
00:19:17We made these statements because, as I said, time is very short. Please,
00:19:20let's put personal attacks and such aside. On the
00:19:23topic, this is about your program. Exactly, this BBC
00:19:27Persian program is for the people of Iran. It should be in the direction
00:19:30of supporting the interests of the people of Iran. Well, maybe he thinks that in the
00:19:34way he thinks, the interests of the Iranian people can be served.
00:21:20but against Netanyahu's policies. Here,
00:21:24I see that the same thing that happened to America after September 11th
00:21:28has also happened to Netanyahu and Israel.
00:21:31After September 11th, people around the
00:21:34world were sympathetic and supportive of
00:21:37America, but after Abu Ghraib prison, after
00:21:40Guantanamo and torture, public
00:21:43opinion turned. Now, Mr. Netanyahu is also accused
00:21:47of crimes against humanity and war crimes.
00:21:50Therefore, part of the Democratic
00:21:53Party, part of the Republican Party, are against
00:21:57Netanyahu's policies. I don't see a contradiction.
00:22:00Thank you very much. With thanks to Aram Hesami,
00:22:03Sahel Vahdati, Banaa, Kian
00:22:07Tajbakhsh, and Hamidreza Mehdizadeh, we have reached the end of
00:22:10the coverage of the US elections on BBC Persian. Thank you for joining
00:22:14us. I hope to see you on Tuesday. Until then, have a good
00:22:18time.
00:24:22water and the sufferings of Iranians. When
00:24:26the Tehran metro hits the Qanat Mehrieh, and
00:24:29Topkhane is destroyed, we have disrupted
00:24:32the physical
00:24:33environment.
00:24:36Other cities are like us. They are also
00:24:40unemployed. Hamouns have suffered the same
00:24:43fate as our other wetlands. The water is salty now
00:24:46because of water shortage, the water became salty.
00:24:59Karun is an oppressed, grieving mother who has benefited
00:25:03one Iran, but one Iran has forgotten her.
00:25:06Isn't it a pity that beauty is being
00:25:08lost?
00:25:15Water Season with Kaveh Madani on
00:25:18Aparat.
00:25:24Lately, there has been a lot of talk in Iran about Starlink again. Some people are talking about
00:25:28the possibility of mobile phones connecting to Starlink satellite internet, especially
00:25:31in the southern regions of Iran. Government officials have also made
00:25:35contradictory statements about cutting off Starlink
00:25:38for users in Iran. So what's going on? Some Iranian
00:25:42users on social media have written that some people in the southern
00:25:46and southeastern regions of Iran have seen the option to connect to satellite
00:25:50internet on their phones. So much so that some media outlets have also
00:25:54reported this. According to local sources, in
00:25:57parts of Iran, especially border cities, on mobile
00:26:00phones, the Starlink satellite internet option
00:26:04has been activated. Although the connection is not
00:26:07established, is it really new news? We have said before here in Click
00:26:11that although this technology of direct communication with satellites is very
00:26:15exciting, especially for those whose internet sharing is constantly being blocked,
00:26:18we are still at the beginning of this technology, and it has many
00:26:22limitations. The number of users that it can currently cover
00:26:25may be much, much more limited than Starlink. It is
00:26:29possible that a very limited number of people may gain
00:26:33access to this technology, but again, the key point is that we should not
00:26:36have the idea that from tomorrow, everyone in Iran will be able to
00:26:40directly connect to the internet through their phones. If this technology comes, the important
00:26:44point is that again, people should not fall victim to these
00:26:47scams. That is, suddenly, messages appear in these Telegram groups saying
00:26:51that if you install such and such an application on your phone, you can immediately connect directly to
00:26:55satellite internet and have very good bandwidth. Many people
00:26:59unfortunately may fall for such messages,
00:27:02install the application, and then either their wallet will be emptied, or
00:27:06their bank accounts will actually be
00:27:09misused and they will be harmed. And this is a very important point that our
00:27:13dear compatriots should pay attention to. Now, these are perhaps
00:27:16rumors, or perhaps it is better to say dreams for now, about
00:27:19phone connection to satellite internet in Iran. But what do government officials
00:27:23say? The Deputy Minister of Communications said in a meeting that with
00:27:26Starlink, the government's hand in governing cyberspace,
00:27:29including this nationwide internet filtering, will be
00:27:33closed, and our governance over cyberspace
00:27:37will no longer be based on our network, it will be based on Starlink.
00:27:40Those who care say that this phenomenon is the last nail
00:27:44in the coffin of the Islamic Republic's governance; there will be nothing
00:27:47left after it. Then the Secretary of the Supreme Council of Cyberspace replied that
00:27:51no, we managed to disable Starlink terminals in Iran. Iran
00:27:55was practically
00:27:57the first country that was able to completely
00:28:01disable all Starlink terminals
00:28:05and we forced
00:28:07one of them. But what really
00:28:11happened? It is estimated that at least 50,000 Starlink terminals are
00:28:15in Iran. There is no evidence that the Iranian government has been able to disable a
00:28:18significant number of them, but there are reports of surveillance
00:28:22for owners of these devices and the arrest of some of these
00:28:26individuals. But regarding them, experts said that they probably did not follow security
00:28:29tips well. The government has also made many efforts to actually disconnect
00:28:33this, but it has not been successful.
00:28:37Now, they have tried to do this by disrupting GPS signals
00:28:41and similar actions. To some extent, they have actually been able to create disruptions, but they have never
00:28:45successfully been able to prevent these Starlink terminals
00:28:49from working due to their special technology, which can provide
00:28:52a bandwidth of about 100 to over a hundred
00:28:55megabits per second to users inside
00:28:58Iran, and those dear ones who have access to this technology should
00:29:02consider the points so that, God forbid, no problem
00:29:05arises for them. What, for example? To ensure the anonymity of your
00:29:09address when using Starlink, because this device is smuggled and
00:29:12illegal, it is important to obtain it from trusted sources.
00:29:16Turn off the Starlink terminal when you don't need it.
00:29:20Never, ever use Starlink internet to access apps and websites inside Iran
00:29:23because they can detect that you are using Starlink internet
00:29:27and track you. Do not use the device's own Wi-Fi.
00:29:30Connect a regular router
00:29:32to Starlink with a cable and get your Wi-Fi from that. But
00:29:36apart from these police actions, the Iranian government, ever since
00:29:39Starlink began to expand three years ago, has been
00:29:43trying in international forums to restrict Starlink
00:29:46satellite internet in Iran, including by complaining to the International
00:29:50Telecommunication Union, after which the board of directors of the international
00:29:53body asked Starlink to disable unauthorized terminals in
00:29:57Iran. Recently, the Iranian government has also protested to Norway why
00:30:01this request has not been implemented. Now, why Norway? Because
00:30:04Starlink has officially registered part of its telecommunication
00:30:08infrastructure through Norway and the rest through the US, which recently
00:30:12had a 40-day war with Iran, and currently tensions between Iran and the US
00:30:15are high. Of course, civil groups and internet freedom activists
00:30:19have protested this decision of the International Telecommunication Union and said
00:30:23that only governments should not have the right to comment on this. It
00:30:26seems that the story of Iranians with Starlink will continue for a long time.
00:30:30And
00:30:37now on BBC Persian TV, lifestyle.