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00:00:00are fighting
00:00:02with more security, and can already now about, also in Ukraine there have been hackers at play, and here it has
00:00:05affected the mobile app that warns the population about
00:00:09attacks. This is confirmed by the country's air defense to
00:00:12the news agency AFP. This is what we can see here, the messages
00:00:15Ukrainians have received, these are false alarms on their
00:00:18mobile phones about imminent attacks with nuclear weapons,
00:00:22chemical weapons and street fighting.
00:00:25The report of irregularities on the app came a few minutes after
00:00:29the ceasefire in the eastern Kherson region expired
00:00:32last night, and it has caused confusion. Well,
00:00:36it is clear that it has made many Ukrainians scared, simply because
00:00:40it was right at the time when people were going to bed that these alarms ticked
00:00:44in, quite quickly it became clear, however, that this was a
00:00:48false alarm, that this was a hacker attack, but there are probably quite a few
00:00:51Ukrainians who were well scared last night, I myself also
00:00:54became, what can you say, surprised by this alarm that ticked in, also
00:00:58because many Ukrainians are currently experiencing that the war is in such
00:01:01an escalation uhm, what can you say, spiral at
00:01:05the moment, where it constantly becomes more and more violent, and therefore are afraid of
00:01:08what Russia might do. Who do you think is behind this
00:01:12hacker attack? Well, according to the Ukrainian
00:01:15authorities, it is Russia that is behind this, they have announced
00:01:18it, but we don't know, the Ukrainian media speculate
00:01:22a lot about this, and try to analyze these messages that have been
00:01:26sent in, whether one can somehow decode something, but right now...
00:01:30we don't know if Russia is behind this, even though it is like
00:01:33the common perception here among Ukrainians, but
00:01:37also the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations' app has been hacked, writes
00:01:41the news agency TASS. Here, the message to users was that nuclear
00:01:44missiles had been fired over the entire
00:01:47country.
00:01:51TV2 has not lived up to its own guidelines in
00:01:55connection with the controversial program, everyone loves Rasmus.
00:01:59That is what it now sounds like from. Minister of Culture Senia Stampe.
00:02:02I have been uh down and looked at TV2's guidelines,
00:02:06and they actually write very clearly and distinctly that all participants have
00:02:10the right to know the framework and theme for the recordings they
00:02:13participate in, and therefore this is also a clear breach of
00:02:17TV2's own internal ethical
00:02:20guidelines. The program was removed on Saturday
00:02:23after massive criticism and accusations of adult
00:02:26bullying. In the series, Rasmus Wallbridge
00:02:29here lives out a dream of making a feature film, but after four months it
00:02:33turns out that the whole thing is a scam. Yesterday,
00:02:38stores, but several of them are TV2 then admitted that the program should not have been broadcast, and also that a central audio clip had been
00:02:42manipulated. The channel is now launching an
00:02:45investigation into the entire process with the program. Several parties
00:02:49have urged the Minister of Culture to get involved in the matter, but Senior
00:02:53Stampe rejects this. I think it would be enormously problematic
00:02:57if I, as minister, interfered in program activities or interfered
00:03:00in personnel matters, we have a very strong tradition that public service
00:03:04media are independent, I think we should be happy about that, it means
00:03:08that most people trust TV2, but right here the trust
00:03:12has suffered an enormous uh, an enormous break, and that is
00:03:16TV2's own fault, and I think TV2 is also aware of it, and
00:03:19TV2 now knows that it now depends on them whether they restore
00:03:23the trust of the Danes, I urge
00:03:26them to do everything they can to restore that trust, and I believe
00:03:30that they will do that, but it depends on uh, what they
00:03:34do now, and I think it's better than me going in and
00:03:37making new rules or micromanaging, especially when I can
00:03:40ascertain that the rules they have should actually be sufficient to
00:03:44avoid something like this in the future, and we have tried to
00:03:47get a comment from TV2, who has not returned our
00:03:50inquiries, here we should have a look at
00:03:52the weather, it is probably not the forecast that can attract the most
00:03:56tourists, it is probably in most places at least a little too grey, but it could be. should take
00:04:00a trip to the North Sea if they would like to experience that the sun might have a little chance to
00:04:04break through, it can at least do so here during the afternoon hours, otherwise a day where we
00:04:08are well planted under the clouds, still layers here over the eastern regions, they will
00:04:11hang around for a good part of the day at least, probably when we look at most
00:04:14forecasts. Temperatures around eight to ten degrees during most
00:04:18of the hours that await us from now on, so we will therefore also have a day that is quite
00:04:22stable temperature-wise. The wind from the northern direction, but here in the southeastern
00:04:25corner, it comes more from the southwestern direction, but it starts to turn as we start
00:04:29Tuesday. which looks like it will be a really nice day with plenty of sunshine,
00:04:33a few clouds here at the end or in the southern regions, also a few showers early
00:04:37independently owned in the day, but in the afternoon hours there is even more room for sun, and we will
00:04:40thus get yet another beautiful round, as we start the days that
00:04:44await us over Wednesday and Thursday.
00:04:56Welcome, now a Danish food producer has also been attempted
00:05:00hacked, says Danish Industry. This happens after
00:05:03freezers and refrigerators in several supermarkets across
00:05:06Europe have been hacked. And Daniel Myer,
00:05:09you are with Danish Industry, you can tell us more about what? What has
00:05:12happened?
00:05:15Yes, first of all, we know that it was at night that a Danish
00:05:18food company was attempted hacked, and let's just ask you,
00:05:21Jeppe Ingel, you are chief consultant at Danish Industry with
00:05:25responsibility for cybersecurity, what exactly happened at your
00:05:29member's? Well, after we sent a warning this afternoon to
00:05:32not just those who deal with installation
00:05:35of food equipment such as refrigeration and
00:05:38freezing, we also sent it to our food producing members, and one of them replied
00:05:42quite quickly that they had been attacked
00:05:46at night, those who monitored discovered it and managed to, so to speak,
00:05:49set the temperature back to where it should be, made sure that it
00:05:53could no longer happen and started installing some
00:05:57new security, and the company has then announced that they need to
00:06:01now invest in new equipment, because they cannot take the chance, and
00:06:04that extra security is not enough, uh, and this is
00:06:08the first example we know of,
00:06:10that the warning we have given and the authorities later today
00:06:14about those who have refrigeration and freezing, and not just
00:06:18retail, but also at the food producers, uh, that they
00:06:22need to take this warning very seriously and contact
00:06:25their uh a voice they have agreements with regarding their
00:06:29services and regarding their installations
00:06:32um, and if they can't reach them, keep trying, because I think there's
00:06:35a lot of work going on at them right now, and if they themselves
00:06:39can their systems ensure that their refrigeration and freezing
00:06:43are not on the internet, and that is typically only for monitoring
00:06:46or for service, and that is not
00:06:49necessary in the next couple of days in that sense
00:06:53um, if they if they succeed or they are in doubt if they
00:06:56succeed, then my best advice right now is to set
00:07:0024-hour monitoring on the facilities that are very
00:07:03important, uh, because we must expect that this attack, it will continue
00:07:07for some time yet, and can we be sure that what has happened in Denmark can be linked to what we have
00:07:11seen from Ireland and... France and Luxembourg and so on. Yes, it is
00:07:14that, we can. It is the same method, even if it is different
00:07:18manufacturers of equipment, it is the same
00:07:22method, and what they do, they scan and find
00:07:26equipment that is on the internet. And that is for monitoring and for
00:07:30service. Uh, then they break in and start
00:07:32the defrost function, which is super annoying. Uh,
00:07:36and that sends the temperatures up on both refrigeration and freezing, and thereby goods
00:07:40for many thousands, and uh, and that. will be uh
00:07:43destroyed uh because food or what do you call it the cold chain is
00:07:47broken um so it's the same we see all over
00:07:50Europe we have mostly seen supermarkets today uh but
00:07:54there is no doubt that this equipment is also found in food producers and
00:07:58others who have very large refrigeration and freezing facilities can we talk
00:08:01about this food company whose name you don't want to disclose because they don't want to come
00:08:05out at this time can we know if they had control over their security or if they had
00:08:09neglected something in relation to their security I have uh I have
00:08:12been allowed to see some of the communication their CEO has sent in, and my
00:08:16assessment after seeing it is that it is a company that has had good control over
00:08:20it, so there was monitoring that caught it, that knew that this was something they
00:08:23should react to, and the company decided immediately to
00:08:27implement extra measures with more security, and can already now in so few
00:08:31hours say that they have made the decision that they need to buy new equipment,
00:08:35so it's not just a company that either
00:08:38has control over it, they have also already taken the consequence that it has now become
00:08:42serious. Can we also assume that this is the only company that has been attempted attacked, or are there
00:08:45also others, when we, when we see that this one here, it is currently
00:08:49what I have otherwise heard is based on rumors, and that cannot be used
00:08:53here, but I have no doubt that both supermarkets
00:08:57and others who have refrigeration and freezing facilities that are
00:09:00internet-connected, meaning they are on the internet, have been attempted
00:09:03scanned and hacked in this attack that we also see around
00:09:07Europe. Would you describe this as a crisis situation? No, we are
00:09:11not in a crisis situation yet, fortunately,
00:09:14supermarkets have a contingency plan to handle such things, and so do
00:09:18food producers, so even if someone is
00:09:21affected and some goods have to be thrown away, supermarkets ensure,
00:09:24because they are responsible, to
00:09:27restock as quickly as possible, but it is clear that when
00:09:31supermarkets throughout Europe are hit at once, then
00:09:35some deliveries are put under pressure, but it
00:09:39is also in such a situation that those who supply the goods step
00:09:42up and ensure to make an extra effort, so supermarkets do not
00:09:46run out of goods, with regard to what we have seen last night, both in Denmark and
00:09:49around Europe, how serious is this actually for the way
00:09:53we behave in the society we have? Well, there is no doubt
00:09:57that this plays a role in relation to what we have arranged, that
00:10:01everything should be on the internet, now it is super serious when it comes to
00:10:04food safety, when it comes to supply security, but it
00:10:08also extends all the way to the things we have in our private homes.
00:10:12Uh, I myself have both a tumble dryer and a washing machine and a Sonos system and all
00:10:16sorts of things that are on the internet, and some of the things are necessary, and some of the things are not, and we
00:10:20might have to start dealing with that from what we have in our private homes
00:10:23to what we do in companies. where some things are also on the internet that should
00:10:27not be. Now it's from Jeppe Engel, who is chief consultant for Cybersecurity at Danish
00:10:31Industry. Thank you. Yes, so let's just look at what
00:10:34the situation is around Europe, where supermarkets in
00:10:38five other countries have been affected by cyberattacks, where
00:10:42in several places the temperature has been turned up to 50 degrees in freezers
00:10:46and refrigerated displays. In Belgium, which we see pictures from here,
00:10:49more than 50 supermarkets have been affected,
00:10:53also in Sweden, Luxembourg, Ireland and Estonia,
00:10:56stores report problems. According to
00:10:59the supplier in Estonia, it was an older control system,
00:11:02from Danish Danfoss, just like what happened in France three weeks
00:11:06ago. The Danish Agency for Social Security here at home
00:11:09is investigating whether Danish stores are affected and urges store owners to
00:11:13review their refrigeration systems, as we just heard
00:11:16from Danish Industry. And the
00:11:19Danish industrial group Danfoss now confirms that
00:11:22their products have been part of the cyberattacks that have taken
00:11:26place. We can confirm that the incidents that have been
00:11:30reported in several European countries also involve our
00:11:33products. We have been in close dialogue with our customers for
00:11:37the past three weeks, and continue to help them manage
00:11:40the situation, says Danfoss. And our
00:11:44reporter has visited one of the stores in Skåne in Sweden that has been affected by
00:11:48the hacker attack.
00:11:50Well, here in the refrigerated display, customers have gone in vain
00:11:54for and and all the things that one
00:11:57normally goes for here in the town of Sjöbo, which
00:12:01is a smaller town and not and not the capital here in Sweden, but nevertheless,
00:12:05at least it was quite a grim sight
00:12:08that uh that awaited the store manager here when he
00:12:12arrived this morning, there were simply melted
00:12:15blueberry tarts and and all sorts of other things uh, so they have simply
00:12:19spent the whole morning, the whole morning simply throwing
00:12:22out and throwing out and throwing out. Hundreds of kilos they have
00:12:26thrown out, up to several tons of food have simply been thrown out
00:12:29in the container, because among other things
00:12:33the freezers here and also a number of refrigerators had been turned up to
00:12:3650 degrees during the night, so it's
00:12:39exactly the same as what happened in France about three weeks
00:12:43ago, so they weren't at all prepared for something like this to
00:12:45happen?
00:12:48No, they haven't been, so it's the situation that it's
00:12:52a local grocer who owns the store here. And also the systems
00:12:56uh ICA is a large chain of stores, so they have
00:13:00many
00:13:03independently owned by grocers uh
00:13:07including the store here, so the systems have
00:13:10been their own to decide what kind they should be, so it simply
00:13:13caught them off guard uh that this could happen, and and that is also
00:13:17what the store manager says, so why should this affect me, and that
00:13:21is also what the customers do not understand, so why uh, why? would one do
00:13:25this, who, who would hit us in this
00:13:28way, it, it is simply something that causes wonder, yes, you have spoken
00:13:32to several customers, Simone, so how, how do they react
00:13:36besides, of course, thinking this is completely
00:13:37incomprehensible,
00:13:41well, I mean, when I, when I ask them what they, what they think about it, well, then they say that
00:13:45that it, that they can't understand that it affects such a local
00:13:48business like this, I mean, what is the intention with it,
00:13:52uh, and we don't know, of course, exactly. what the intention is
00:13:56and why it affects so many different ones and so on and so on
00:13:59um yes so it is it is clear
00:14:01that uh that it is something that causes frustration
00:14:05for the locals that they can't come down and get the goods
00:14:09that they actually wanted and it affects a local community like
00:14:13here is a relatively small town with not so many
00:14:16shops so so when you can't get these goods then it is
00:14:20something that actually matters and many
00:14:23of the systems that have been hacked are connected to
00:14:27the internet, and that is what makes them vulnerable, an expert also tells
00:14:30here. The problem is that
00:14:34there are many places where we have put these things directly on
00:14:37the internet, so they can be hit by all people
00:14:41out there, I mean all those who wish us ill, that they are directly on the internet, and it is
00:14:44easy to find these devices, so it is, it is an
00:14:47easy attack in that sense, that many can figure out
00:14:51how to perform it, and especially with AI it becomes even easier.
00:14:55Uh, the problem is, that we have all these devices that are directly
00:14:59on the internet, and can be hit, and we are
00:15:03of course following the situation with these hacker attacks here in TVA live,
00:15:07and you can also always read more about it in our live blog on
00:15:11DR.K.
00:15:15So it's tomorrow that Americans vote in the
00:15:17midterm elections, and in one of the crucial
00:15:20states, Michigan, yes, the Democrat Haley
00:15:24Steven. at the 11th hour has gone against her own
00:15:27party. She has turned 180 degrees and has now
00:15:30declared that she supports a Republican
00:15:33candidate.
00:15:37This morning and I decided to go to church and I'm here with
00:15:41the person who I am voting for for United
00:15:45States Senate, and that is Mike Rogers.
00:15:48Congresswoman Haley Stevens herself ran in the primary for
00:15:52the Democrats, but she lost a close election to the party's
00:15:56more progressive candidate Abdul El Said, and while
00:15:59he declines to comment on Stevens' decision,
00:16:03the country's president Trump gladly seizes the opportunity.
00:16:07'that was a big move, I think nobody
00:16:10expected that, but it's a smart thing to do
00:16:13because elsead would destroy our
00:16:15country. And it is absolutely not an everyday occurrence for a
00:16:19candidate to switch parties in the middle of an election campaign, our international
00:16:23correspondent reports here, because it's a very long way to go, because it's
00:16:27something the Democrats really, really wanted to avoid, and as
00:16:31Trump also says, he's right this time, this is a big deal, it was an
00:16:34unexpected thing, I mean there are two things'. that
00:16:37are simply crucial, one for the Democrats is
00:16:40that here you have a more
00:16:43moderate candidate, who then loses, Haley Stevens
00:16:47earlier this year fought for who should run for the Democrats, then
00:16:50Abdul El Said, he runs, and they then agree
00:16:54after having argued back and forth a bit, that now she should probably run with him
00:16:58and jointly, after which she then announces, no, she's not going to after all,
00:17:02she is now supporting Mike Rogers, who is the
00:17:05Republican, to that also belongs her boyfriend who is a
00:17:08Republican, and he came out here yesterday, or the day before yesterday, and
00:17:12announced now that he supported Mike Rogers, what they then discussed, she
00:17:15said when she woke up and went to church, she must then
00:17:19have really, I mean, have thought about things, that's one thing, the other thing is
00:17:22that for the Democrats, it is simply crucial
00:17:26to win every single Senate,
00:17:29Senate seat into the new Senate that they can get, it is
00:17:32absolutely crucially important, for they can get a majority there, that is what they are really
00:17:36fighting for, and... "it can very well come to mean, it can very well come to change
00:17:40something, we don't know what the situation is now, we know many have voted
00:17:44due to previous voting by mail and so on, but uh,
00:17:47how will this play
00:17:50out, will it give more support to the Republicans or
00:17:54what, because that's what they're fighting for.
00:17:57also in Ukraine there have been hackers at play, and here it has affected
00:18:01the mobile app that warns the population about
00:18:04attacks, this is confirmed by the country's air defense. to
00:18:07the news agency AFP. This is what we can see here, the messages
00:18:11Ukrainians have received, these are false alarms on their
00:18:14mobile phones about imminent attacks with nuclear weapons,
00:18:18chemical weapons and street fighting.
00:18:20The report of irregularities on the app came a few minutes after
00:18:24the ceasefire in the eastern Kherson region expired
00:18:28last night, and it has caused confusion. Well,
00:18:32it is clear that it has made many Ukrainians scared, simply because
00:18:35it was right at the time when people were going to bed that these alarms ticked
00:18:39in, quite quickly it became clear, however, that this was a
00:18:43false alarm, that this was a hacker attack, but there are probably quite a few
00:18:46Ukrainians who were well scared last night, I myself also,
00:18:50what can you say, surprised by this alarm that ticked in, also
00:18:54because many Ukrainians are currently experiencing that the war is in such
00:18:57an escalation,
00:18:59what can you say, spiral at the moment, where it constantly becomes more and more violent, and therefore
00:19:03are afraid of what Russia might do. Who do you think is
00:19:06behind? here hacker attack? Well, according to the Ukrainian
00:19:10authorities, it is Russia that is behind this, they have announced
00:19:14it, but we don't know, the Ukrainian media speculate
00:19:18a lot about this, and try to analyze these messages that have
00:19:21been sent in, whether one can somehow decode something, but right now we
00:19:25don't know if Russia is behind this, even though it is like
00:19:29the common perception here among Ukrainians, but
00:19:32also the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations' app has
00:19:35been hacked, writes the news agency. Pass, here the message to
00:19:39users was that nuclear missiles had been fired over the entire
00:19:42country.
00:19:47TV2 has not lived up to its own guidelines in
00:19:50connection with the controversial program, everyone loves Rasmus.
00:19:54That is what it now sounds like from Minister of Culture Senia Stampe.
00:19:58I have been down to look at TV2's guidelines,
00:20:01and they actually write very clearly and distinctly that all participants have
00:20:05the right to know the framework and. theme for the recordings they
00:20:09participate in, and therefore this is also a clear breach of
00:20:12TV2's own internal ethical
00:20:15guidelines. The program was removed on Saturday
00:20:18after massive criticism and accusations of adult
00:20:21bullying. In the series, Rasmus Walbridge
00:20:25here lives out a dream of making a feature film, but after four months it
00:20:28turns out that the whole thing is a scam. Yesterday,
00:20:31TV2 then admitted that the program should not have been broadcast,
00:20:35and also that a central audio clip
00:20:37had been manipulated. The channel is now launching an
00:20:41investigation into the entire process with the program. Several parties have
00:20:44urged the Minister of Culture to get involved in the matter, but Senior
00:20:48Stampe rejects this. 'I think it would be enormously problematic
00:20:52if I, as minister, interfered in program activities or interfered in
00:20:56personnel matters, we have a very strong tradition that public service
00:21:00media are independent, I think we should be glad about that, it means
00:21:03that most people trust TV2, but right here trust
00:21:07has suffered an enormous uh, an enormous break, and that is
00:21:11TV2's own fault, and I think TV2 is also aware of it, and
00:21:15TV2 now knows that it now depends on them whether they restore
00:21:19trust in'. the Danes, I urge
00:21:21them to do everything they can to restore that trust, and I believe
00:21:25that they will do that, but it depends on uh,
00:21:29what they do now, and I think it's better than me going in and
00:21:33making new rules or micromanaging, especially when I can
00:21:35ascertain that the rules they have should actually be sufficient to
00:21:39avoid something like this in the future, and we have tried to
00:21:42get a comment from TV2, who has not returned our
00:21:45inquiries.
00:21:54Alex Jones has gained millions of followers with his conspiracy theories.
00:22:09The Iraq War files have turned friends into
00:22:12enemies.
00:22:20So tomorrow on DRTV and DR1.
00:22:32Welcome. Now a Danish food producer has also been attempted
00:22:36hacked, says Danish Industry. This happens after
00:22:39freezers and refrigerators in several supermarkets across
00:22:42Europe have been hacked. And Daniel Myer,
00:22:45you are with Danish Industry. You can tell us more about what has
00:22:48happened.
00:22:51Yes, first of all, we know that it was at night that a Danish
00:22:54food company was attempted to hack, and let's just ask
00:22:57you, Jeppe Ingel, you are a chief consultant at Danish industry with
00:23:01responsibility for cybersecurity, what exactly happened to your
00:23:05member? Well, after we sent a warning this afternoon
00:23:08not only to those who have to do with the installation
00:23:11of food equipment such as refrigeration and
00:23:14freezing, we also sent it to our food producing members, and one of them replied
00:23:18fairly quickly that... they were attacked during the night,
00:23:21those who monitored it, noticed it and were able to,
00:23:25so to speak, set the temperature back to where it should be, made
00:23:29sure that it could no longer happen and started installing
00:23:33new security, and the company has since announced that they are
00:23:36now forced to invest in new equipment because they cannot take the chance and
00:23:40that extra security is not enough, and this is
00:23:44the first example we know of that the warning
00:23:48we ourselves have given and the authorities later gave about
00:23:51those who have refrigeration and freezing and not just retail, but
00:23:55also among the food producers,
00:23:58that they must take this warning very seriously and contact
00:24:01their supplier they have agreements with regarding
00:24:05their services regarding their installations,
00:24:08and if they can't reach them, keep trying, because I think it's very
00:24:12busy for them right now, and if they can
00:24:15manage their systems themselves, make sure that their refrigeration and freezing
00:24:19are not on the internet. And that's typically only for monitoring
00:24:22or for service, and that's not necessary
00:24:26in the next few days in that sense.
00:24:29If they succeed or are in doubt whether they
00:24:33succeed, then my best advice right now is to set up
00:24:3624-hour monitoring of the facilities that are very
00:24:39important, because we must
00:24:43expect that this attack will continue for some time yet, and can we be sure that what
00:24:47has happened here in Denmark can be linked to what we have seen from Ireland and France and Luxembourg and so on. Yes, it can,
00:24:51it's the same method, even though it's different
00:24:54manufacturers of equipment, it's the same
00:24:58method, and what they do is they scan and find
00:25:02equipment that is on the internet, and that's for monitoring and for service,
00:25:06so they break in and start the defrosting function,
00:25:10which is super annoying, and that raises the temperatures
00:25:14on both refrigeration and freezing, and thus it was for many thousands,
00:25:17and what has been broken,
00:25:24so it's the same thing we see all over Europe, we
00:25:28have mostly seen supermarkets today, but there's no doubt that this
00:25:31equipment also exists in food producers and others who
00:25:34have very large refrigeration and freezing facilities, can we
00:25:37talk about whether this food company, whose name you don't want to disclose because they don't
00:25:41want to come out at the moment, can we know if they had control over their
00:25:44security or if they neglected something regarding their security? I have
00:25:48been allowed to see something, a communication from their managing director, and my assessment after seeing it is
00:25:51that it is a company that has had good control over it, so there was a monitoring system that
00:25:55caught it, which knew that this was something they needed to react
00:25:59to, and the company decided immediately to implement extra measures
00:26:04in so few hours say that they have made the decision that they need to buy new
00:26:08equipment, so it is not just a company that
00:26:12has control over it, they have also already taken the consequence that it has now become
00:26:16serious. Can we also assume that it is the only company that has been attacked, or are there
00:26:20also others? When we see that this one here, it is currently
00:26:23what I have otherwise heard, it is purely based on rumors, and that cannot be used
00:26:27here, but I have no doubt that
00:26:31both markets and others that have refrigeration and
00:26:34freezing facilities that are internet-connected, meaning they are on the
00:26:37internet, have been subjected to scanning and hacking
00:26:41in this attack that we also see all over Europe. Would you describe this as a
00:26:45crisis situation? No, we are not in a crisis situation yet,
00:26:49fortunately, supermarkets have a contingency plan to
00:26:52handle such things, and so do food producers,
00:26:55so even if some are affected and some goods have to be thrown away, the supermarkets make sure, because they
00:26:59are responsible, to restock as quickly as possible, but it is
00:27:03clear that when supermarkets all over Europe are hit at
00:27:06once, then some deliveries will be
00:27:10pressured, but it is also in such a situation that those who
00:27:14supply the goods come together and ensure to make an extra effort,
00:27:17so that the supermarkets do not lack goods. In light of what we saw last
00:27:21night, both in Denmark and across Europe, how serious is this actually
00:27:24for the way we behave in the society we have?
00:27:28Well, there is no doubt that this plays a role in relation to what
00:27:32we have arranged, that everything must be on the internet. Now it is
00:27:35super serious when it comes to food security, when it comes to
00:27:39supply security, but it also extends to the
00:27:42things we have in our private homes. I myself have a
00:27:46tumble dryer and a washing machine and a heating system and all sorts of things that are on
00:27:49the internet, and some of the things are necessary, and some of the things are not, and we may have to deal with
00:27:53that, from what we have in our private homes to what we do in
00:27:57companies, where something is on the internet that should not be.
00:28:00That was from Jeppe Engel, who is a chief consultant for
00:28:02Cybersecurity in Danish Industry. Thank you. Yes, so let's just
00:28:06see what the situation is around Europe, where
00:28:09supermarkets in five other countries have been
00:28:12affected by cyber attacks, where in several places the temperature has been turned up
00:28:16to 50 degrees in freezers and refrigerated display cases. In
00:28:20Belgium, which we see pictures from here, more than 50
00:28:23supermarkets were affected, also in Sweden,
00:28:27Luxembourg, Ireland and Estonia had
00:28:30problems. According to the supplier in Estonia, it was
00:28:33an older control system, from Danish Danfoss, just like what
00:28:37happened in France three weeks ago. The Danish Agency for
00:28:40Societal Security is investigating whether Danish stores have been affected and
00:28:44encourages store owners to review their cooling systems,
00:28:47as we just heard from Danish industry. And the
00:28:51Danish industrial group Danfoss now confirms that
00:28:55their products have been part of the cyberattacks that have
00:28:58taken place. We can confirm that the incidents reported
00:29:02in several European countries also involve our
00:29:05products. We have been in close dialogue with our customers for the
00:29:09past three weeks, and continue to help them manage
00:29:13the situation, says Danfoss. And our
00:29:16reporter has visited one of the stores in Scania, Sweden, that has been affected by
00:29:20the hacker attack. Well, here in the refrigerated display case,
00:29:24customers have unfortunately gone in vain
00:29:26for frozen berries and bread and
00:29:30everything else that one normally looks for here in
00:29:33the town of Sjöbo, which is a smaller town and not the capital here
00:29:37in Sweden, but nevertheless, at least it was
00:29:41quite a grim sight that awaited
00:29:45the store manager here when he arrived this morning. There were simply
00:29:48melted blueberry pies and
00:29:52all sorts of other things, so they simply spent
00:29:55the whole morning and morning simply throwing out and
00:29:59throwing out and throwing out hundreds of kilos have been thrown out,
00:30:03up to several tons of food has simply been thrown into the container,
00:30:07because, among other things, the freezers here and also a number
00:30:10of refrigerators had been turned up to 50 degrees during
00:30:13the night, so it's exactly the same as happened in
00:30:17France about three weeks ago, meaning they were not at all prepared for
00:30:21something like this to happen?
00:30:24No, they weren't. The situation is that it's a local grocer who owns the store
00:30:28here, and also the systems. ICA is a large
00:30:32chain of stores, so they have many
00:30:36stores, but several of them are
00:30:39by grocers, including the store here, so the
00:30:43systems have been their own to decide what they should be, so it simply
00:30:46came as a surprise to them that this
00:30:49could happen, and that's also what the store manager says, why
00:30:53should this happen to me, and that's also what customers are incomprehensible about, why?
00:30:57er også det som kunderne er uforstående overfor, altså hvorfor?