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00:00:24Every time I listen to the news, Trump says something racist or
00:00:27homophobic, it's exhausting. "We were
00:00:30a beautiful country, now we're the country everyone laughs at,
00:00:34I almost take it as an insult,
00:00:36when someone tells me, 'Oh, you're American,' I
00:00:40say 'yes,'
00:00:41move at the speed of the business world, of
00:00:42Geopolitics at unfortunately,
00:00:45the first time Trump was elected,
00:00:48I had just started college, and everything was
00:00:51different. I had the right to my own
00:00:55body. It became really hard to be a woman in
00:00:58the United States." And from the moment a woman is forced
00:01:02to have a child when she could die, it's no longer a country I want to
00:01:05live in.
00:01:08This was one of Donald Trump's big battles. Since
00:01:112022, the right to abortion is no longer guaranteed in
00:01:14the United States, and the number of
00:01:16indicated, in terms of personnel, women prosecuted for pregnancy-related crimes has increased six-fold.
00:01:20So this summer, Emma Hensley left the
00:01:24Florida Sun, heading for Dublin. Leaving
00:01:27was an easy decision. Trump made it very
00:01:30easy. As soon as I
00:01:33defect, and then precisely arrived in Ireland, I could breathe. All that was behind me. It made me
00:01:36feel good. At 28, she's starting a new student
00:01:40life at Trinity College, the oldest Irish
00:01:44university.
00:01:47Here, American student enrollments have, on average, doubled in
00:01:50recent years, and more and more PhD students and
00:01:54professors are coming to enjoy academic freedom, now
00:01:57threatened in
00:01:59but on this fundamental question of the United States.
00:02:03an adherent of
00:02:07At the business school, many like Emma, who worked at
00:02:10Microsoft, fled the tech sector crisis in the United States
00:02:14to try their luck in Ireland.
00:02:18They told me, 'There's no more budget for your position, due to our
00:02:21investments in artificial intelligence.' It's a
00:02:25way of saying that AI has taken your
00:02:27place.
00:02:30Go back to school, learn to talk to the CEO. In any case, in
00:02:33Ireland, there are many
00:02:35opportunities.
00:02:37Opportunities, because for 20 years, Silicon Valley giants like Meta,
00:02:41Salesforce, Google, or
00:02:45Airbnb have made Dublin their European base, attracted by
00:02:48favorable taxation.
00:02:51Thanks to them, Ireland has one of the highest growth rates in the European
00:02:55Union. Since Donald
00:02:58Trump's re-election, nearly 20,000 Americans have settled on
00:03:01the island. For some, it's also a return
00:03:05to their origins, because one in 10 Americans claim
00:03:09Irish roots, like these tourists from
00:03:12Chicago. We were told about it in school, the great
00:03:16Dutch family. Part of my family immigrated at that
00:03:19time and the rest later.
00:03:23In County Cork, Cobh was the main port of
00:03:27Get a complete overview of departure. It's here that Danielle Rottman's ancestors
00:03:30embarked for the New World in the 30s.
00:03:32I feel like I've come home.
00:03:35this is his interpretation, the Nearly a century later,
00:03:37military leadership of he has just made the reverse
00:03:40journey. In Alaska, he was an engineer at
00:03:43the U.S. agency for ocean
00:03:46the greatest artists from protection, fisheries, and climate. In 2025, it became the target
00:03:50of Elon Musk, tasked by a newly re-elected Donald
00:03:53Trump to save the government a trillion dollars.
00:03:56They saw a whole lot of...
00:04:01naturally poses challenges of
00:04:01complete section of social networks according to doctors who spent their time counting fish to then tell
00:04:05fishermen not to catch them. For a
00:04:08billionaire who builds rockets and
00:04:11computers, all this made no sense, so he
00:04:15version on the show's YouTube channel. said: get rid of them.
00:04:17Daniel lost his job, as did half of his department. The cuts
00:04:21also affect weather and national parks, with serious consequences for
00:04:27question which is indeed this question of the environment. What Trump is doing
00:04:31deeply harms our country, its image in the
00:04:34world, its economic weight, and its
00:04:38foundation as a democratic
00:04:40republic.
00:04:43Forced into early retirement, he is restarting his life in the small town of Malo.
00:04:59So you really, bonus, I do. Oh my god.
00:05:02must have placed it in the box at the time of Fantastic. It's grand to see some person come from
00:05:06abroad and and buying the place here. Take care.
00:05:09Hi, nice to meet you.
00:05:45This is my uncle Joe and my uncle Johnny.
00:05:49This is my grandmother, Nora O'Connor, and this is her
00:05:53extreme birth.
00:05:55Having an Irish grandparent grants the right to nationality. So
00:05:59like Danielle, over 30,000 Americans have applied for passports since
00:06:032024, an unprecedented number. While waiting for her
00:06:07new papers, Danielle wants to integrate, and every
00:06:10Tuesday, she takes Gaelic language classes. Leann an cheol
00:06:13dríochta ag teacht go bogh bean, leis
00:06:16an luthaine ón airgead, so
00:06:19ansin
00:06:21amháin agus
00:06:25athróibh. If I must, tá,
00:06:28mointó.
00:06:33Very good. As a minion. All
00:06:37right, all
00:06:38right.
00:06:43he's starting to master the basics. Americans are fleeing a
00:06:46political situation, and we look at it with humor, I
00:06:49think. You're
00:06:53in the right place, don't worry.
00:06:56I think most Irish people aren't very pro-Trump.
00:06:59It's hard, my brain is a bit jumbled
00:07:01now, but it's a good thing.
00:07:05I love these discussions, people, creating new
00:07:09connections. I feel really good, so it's...
00:07:14Danielle's wife will join him soon. They will then
00:07:17only return to the United States to see their
00:07:19children. For others, the departure is
00:07:23definitive.
00:07:25This is the case of Ophelia, 25 years old, and her wife Zara,
00:07:2923 years old, a transgender couple. Do they
00:07:33need to have tea?
00:07:36A year ago, they left everything behind to seek asylum in
00:07:40Ireland and are content with a pension of €38 per week
00:07:44each. Well, we do what we can, but it's not that bad, you
00:07:48see. We took canned goods.
00:07:52In general, we buy a lot of canned
00:07:53goods.
00:07:56Since Trump's return, the United States only recognizes two biological
00:08:00sexes, and the administration is multiplying measures limiting the rights
00:08:04of transgender people. These
00:08:06policies have led to an increase in violence. Zara has
00:08:10suffered the full brunt of it.
00:08:43After an initial interview, their asylum application is under
00:08:46review, a procedure that can take
00:08:49years. In case of rejection, they could be deported to the
00:08:53United States.
00:08:59We feel stuck, that's tough. We hope that one day we'll have legal
00:09:02status and can start
00:09:05working.
00:09:08My dream would be to go back to school because I didn't have that chance. And
00:09:12then to build a decent
00:09:14life.
00:09:17We'll see, but yes, we'll definitely
00:09:19see. Like Ophelia and Zara,
00:09:2394 Americans applied for asylum in Ireland last
00:09:26year, an unprecedented number. In the Dublin courts, nothing has yet
00:09:30been decided, but for lawyer Kaal Malon, these cases could
00:09:33set a legal precedent that's difficult to
00:09:35navigate. To be honest, at first, I found it a bit
00:09:39crazy, but the more you look at what's happening in the United States, especially for
00:09:43trans people, the more you realize that, in many ways, the
00:09:47request is entirely
00:09:48legitimate.
00:09:54There have been huge changes at the federal level. Hospitals are
00:09:58threatened with budget cuts if they provide transition care, and the
00:10:01State Department is also getting involved by refusing to issue passports to people who do not
00:10:05apply with their sex at
00:10:07birth.
00:10:09If Ireland grants asylum to a whatever it may be, it's a
00:10:13direct criticism of that country. So when requests come to us
00:10:16from a country we consider a friend, we find ourselves with a diplomatic
00:10:19problem.
00:10:22A historical ally of the United States, the Irish authorities find
00:10:25themselves in an embarrassing situation. The Ministry of Foreign
00:10:29Affairs, the Ministry of Justice, and the City of Dublin all refused our interview
00:10:33requests. At the Irish Times, Ireland's leading
00:10:36daily newspaper, the reluctance of elected officials to criticize Washington is
00:10:40not surprising. I have a paper in Monday's
00:10:43newspaper. We'll find one.
00:10:46Patli, head of the political service, covered the American
00:10:49president's visit in
00:10:51September.
00:11:26I think that like many countries in the
00:11:28world,
00:11:31Ireland wants to criticize Trump's policies when
00:11:34necessary,
00:11:36but also remain on good terms with him.
00:11:52especially in the tech and pharmaceutical sectors, they pay a lot of taxes. Even
00:11:58with favorable taxation, American
00:12:01companies represent 75% of the corporate tax
00:12:04collected by Dublin. Without them, the famous Celtic
00:12:08Tiger would collapse.
00:12:10These multinationals, Emma and many American students dream of working
00:12:14there one day. While waiting to graduate, they
00:12:18are savoring a new start and following the elections
00:12:20closely.
00:12:22It will take at least 5 or 10 years to...
00:12:55Emma plans to settle permanently in Ireland,
00:12:59and she's not the only one. According to a recent survey, 20%
00:13:02of Americans say they want to leave the
00:13:04United States.
00:13:11RFI and France 24 present
00:13:15each week, our sports café experts share their analyses with you. The main championships
00:13:18under the microscope, the big
00:13:22clubs, especially Barça.
00:13:25Debates, rants, and serpentine tongues, and above all, African
00:13:28proverbs. Our perspectives, of course, on all the major
00:13:32competitions of the moment, without forgetting your
00:13:35reactions, and of course your red cards, dear
00:13:38listeners and internet users. Annie Gast and her team invite you
00:13:42to the sports café on RFI and France
00:13:4524. Live 2 hours at the heart of the news
00:13:49with Stéphanie Antoine.
00:14:53In the street, it's difficult to... look up from one's screen for many
00:14:57young people. Almost 100% of teenagers in South Korea own
00:15:00a smartphone, but since last March, schools can
00:15:04choose to ban phones during class
00:15:06hours.
00:15:10In our high school, the rule is very precise. You have to
00:15:13turn off your phone before putting it away, and then you
00:15:17place it in the pouch corresponding to your number. In the morning,
00:15:20classes start at 8 AM. Before that, you are allowed to use your
00:15:24phone, but you absolutely
00:15:27roll call.
00:15:31Have you all put away your
00:15:32phones?
00:15:35Okay, you can take them.
00:15:39In this high school, the bag containing all the mobile devices of the class is deposited
00:15:43in the teachers' room for the day. Yumin is in
00:15:45first year, and she remembers the time when she could keep her phone in
00:15:49class. Given the choice, she prefers this complete
00:15:52ban.
00:15:55Last year, we didn't collect cell phones. It only started this
00:15:59year.
00:16:01And when I compare the classroom atmosphere between the two years, I find that it allows
00:16:05us to create an environment where we can concentrate better. It improves
00:16:08interactions with teachers. Personally,
00:16:11I feel like it encourages my participation in class. I'm more
00:16:15involved.
00:16:20Before, there were a lot of conflicts with students about cell phones,
00:16:23but now that the rules formally prohibit their
00:16:27use, conflict situations have clearly
00:16:30decreased. Students accept the fact that they have to hand over their
00:16:34phones, and they can't complain about receiving penalty points.
00:16:42On average, a high school student spends 6 hours a day on screens,
00:16:46a figure that worries the authorities. Faced with youth
00:16:49addiction, the government funds this screen detoxification center south
00:16:53of Seoul. It's the only one in the country. A last
00:16:56hope for the dozen minors who came to participate in the program, whose
00:17:00anonymity must be preserved. They will spend
00:17:03seven nights and 8 days here without any electronic
00:17:05device. And now I'm going to
00:17:09ask you to hand over your phones.
00:17:13The first difficult moment of the stay for these teenagers addicted to their
00:17:17screens is separating from their phones. During the week, the
00:17:20girls will follow workshops to learn how to break free from this
00:17:23addiction, do group activities,
00:17:27sports. This 17-year-old participant used to spend
00:17:30up to 15 hours a day on screens, with harmful
00:17:33consequences for her schooling and sociability.
00:17:38First of all, I'd like to stop using my phone excessively so that I can improve my
00:17:40grades at school and concentrate
00:17:44on my homework. Subconsciously, I realize I'm
00:17:48looking for my phone on me. It's really not
00:17:50voluntary.
00:17:55Dear participants, this program may make you a little nervous, but it will
00:17:59be okay.
00:18:03Each year, the government conducts a large study of children and
00:18:06adolescents. Among 10-19 year olds, 43% are at
00:18:10risk of smartphone and tablet addiction, and among 3-9 year olds,
00:18:14this risk already affects more than one in four
00:18:16children.
00:18:19In a constantly evolving world where media and the digital
00:18:22world are developing, it inevitably creates difficulties for
00:18:25some adolescents, but it's not just an individual problem, it's
00:18:29also social. That's why the state must intervene to solve
00:18:33these problems together. It's in this spirit that our...
00:18:55used her phone without moderation. I thought she didn't want to change on this
00:18:59subject. It was very frustrating. We often had conflicts.
00:19:02It was difficult for both of us, but when she asked me to send her to this camp, I
00:19:06realized she really had the desire to improve, and that made me
00:19:10very
00:19:10happy.
00:19:15South Korean teenagers use their phones to watch videos,
00:19:18play online games, and especially consult social networks.
00:19:2270% of 10-19 year olds use them. Like in many
00:19:26other countries, South Korean parliamentarians want to regulate
00:19:29the practice. The bill introduced by this majority MP is currently
00:19:33under discussion.
00:19:39age. This would infringe on the fundamental rights of adolescents,
00:19:43particularly their right to information and their freedom of expression.
00:19:46This is why we have not proposed a total ban by age group, but
00:19:50we have developed a bill with a gradual application. It
00:19:54frames content suggestion algorithms for those under 19 and
00:19:58requires parents to give their consent for their children to open an account
00:20:02for those under 14.
00:20:05If, according to a recent survey,
00:20:07the vast majority of South Koreans approve some form of regulation, it remains
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00:20:29Hello and welcome to "Aux avant-poste," the show that seeks
00:20:32meaning in the chaos of the world: 20%
00:20:36of generals and admirals fired by the American
00:20:39Secretary of War.
00:20:42He's cleaning house in his army. He wants warriors, not
00:20:46woke people. He also wants more companies
00:20:50and startups working for defense to break the monopoly of
00:20:53sector giants. So
00:20:56is the American army undergoing a major
00:21:00reconfiguration? Well, to answer this question,
00:21:03I'm joined by three specialists on the subject: Didier
00:21:07Gros, researcher at the Foundation for Strategic Research, a
00:21:10think tank located in Paris; Vincent
00:21:13Barret, geopolitical and macroeconomic
00:21:16analyst, founder of Macro Insider, an
00:21:20independent research program on the levers of American
00:21:23power; and via video from London,
00:21:27Jonathan Guiffard, associate researcher at the French Institute of
00:21:32Paris 8 University. Hello to all three of you.
00:21:35Hello. I'd like us to start with the very strong statements
00:21:38from Pit X7 on the army. He said he didn't want more
00:21:42wimps, he didn't want more transgender people. He wants
00:21:46warriors. What does that mean, Didier Gros? In
00:21:50fact, I think that for Pitexet, his mentality is
00:21:53the following: he is leading a form of cultural counter-revolution.
00:21:57He believes that the evolution of the American armies
00:22:00over the last twenty years has gone, as you just
00:22:06the evolution of human resources, in the wrong direction according to him, and so he
00:22:09has personally committed himself to a form of
00:22:13cultural counter-revolution to change that, and indeed
00:22:16to move from an army he describes as woke, which is not at all the
00:22:20case, but that's his way of describing it, to an army of warriors, meaning
00:22:24to put, according to him, back at the center of priorities and
00:22:27problems, the fact that an army is there primarily to be
00:22:31engaged, to wage war, and not to engage in what
00:22:35he calls sociological
00:22:37experimentation. That's primarily it. Jonathan Guiffard from London,
00:22:41do you also think that it's very ideological in fact, this
00:22:45approach? Yes, very clearly,
00:22:48Pit is someone who is
00:22:53Donald Trump's ideology and the MAGA branch of the Republican
00:22:56Party. He is a very religious person who also
00:22:59opened an office of religious affairs within the Department of
00:23:03War, and so from that point of view, he advocates for an
00:23:06army that is, let's say, more white, more Christian,
00:23:10and more traditional. And I would add one point: he is someone who has
00:23:14military experience, which is not an incredible experience, and I
00:23:17think he also has a desire to put himself on display as
00:23:21something he is not and was not during his military career. Vincent
00:23:25Barret, do you also have this analysis? Yes, but besides
00:23:28the cultural aspect, I think he also has a form of questioning
00:23:32regarding the wars of intervention, especially the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, and the war in
00:23:35Libya, how they were managed at the bureaucracy level, at
00:23:39the task distribution level, and so I think that besides the cultural
00:23:42aspect, he also wants to put the army back, as Mr.
00:23:46Grou said, at the center of the plan on war, on language.
00:23:53This is a very important point, and we had the opportunity to discuss it earlier. It's really
00:23:57major because we tend to have a cultural dimension that is real, I said
00:24:00it and I confirm it, but he also in fact
00:24:04Pitexet in his own way expresses a current
00:24:07within the American armies but also of society that blames the political
00:24:10and military leadership of the time for having
00:24:14led America into these misadventures in Iraq
00:24:18and Afghanistan, and for him, there are lessons to be learned. Among these
00:24:21lessons is the fact that, and again
00:24:27the time did not do what was needed, did not know how to oppose
00:24:31the political leadership eventually, which is not entirely true
00:24:34by the way. And so from there, today when he talks
00:24:38about firing a certain number of generals and admirals, he doesn't do
00:24:41it in most cases solely
00:24:44for an ideological
00:24:48pretext, he does it simply because he believes that
00:24:52the civilian must regain control, that there is
00:24:55indeed a military leadership that is too
00:24:59important, which has grown in number compared to the rest of the forces, which
00:25:03is debatable, but also because for him, lessons have not been learned
00:25:06from these misadventures, and so I
00:25:10believe this dimension is very important to consider. Jonathan Guiffard talks
00:25:13about misadventures, is it in the mind of a Pitexet
00:25:17rather defeats in Iraq? Uh, in
00:25:21Afghanistan, and he wants to wash away these
00:25:23defeats?
00:25:25Yes, very clearly, in the Trump administration,
00:25:29there is currently a framework that states that the departure from
00:25:32Afghanistan was humiliating, that the war
00:25:36in Iraq was not a success, and that he
00:25:39must now deal with the Iranian problem that was not dealt with by previous
00:25:43administrations. So indeed, I completely agree that it is a
00:25:47desire to stage a break from previous
00:25:50administrations, and it is also, I fully
00:25:54support what has just been said, it is also a staging of the
00:25:57famous fight against the state. It is a way of showing that this
00:26:00civilian takeover is also a way of reimposing a political
00:26:04choice of the American people that a supposed deep state in
00:26:08the army or in the intelligence services would not
00:26:11respect. So I would like us to listen to Pit
00:26:15Exech now. He will not be speaking about
00:26:18personnel, but rather about what he denounces as
00:26:22bureaucracy at the Pentagon. He spoke about it on
00:26:25July 15, 2026, and he
00:26:28addressed it directly, you will see and hear it. He addressed it
00:26:31directly to the President of the United States, Donald Trump. Let's
00:26:34listen.
00:26:38What you demand of me, as a leader and builder, is that we
00:26:44competition, of speed, and on a large
00:26:47scale. And that is precisely what these people have funded and created in their
00:26:50businesses. But our bureaucracy was designed to keep
00:26:54most of you out. And we are waging
00:26:57a war of attrition against the Pentagon bureaucracy to broaden the scope and ensure
00:27:01that competition, speed, innovation, and commercial
00:27:04solutions finally have their
00:27:07say. So bureaucracy, Vincent
00:27:10Chervet, you have studied this problem in depth.
00:27:14Indeed, today, Pitiksen is truly
00:27:17the face of this transformation within the American defense manufacturing
00:27:21base. Today, it is not just about producing highly
00:27:25sophisticated weapons, but also about producing them in large quantities, at a lower
00:27:29cost, in short cycles, and by accepting that the product is not perfect,
00:27:33by accepting the risk of
00:27:36improving it over time. Today, many companies are examples
00:27:39and the company that somewhat embodied this at the beginning is SpaceX, particularly for the
00:27:43launch of civilian and military satellites. Yes, it's not by chance that
00:27:47in the Meridian project, axect
00:27:50partly gave Elon Musk some thought on this question, yes on this question.
00:27:54It's very interesting because obviously we focus on the words, the content of the words, often from
00:27:58fiery speeches and so on,
00:28:01modernity, the adaptation of the American forces, he is part of a form of
00:28:05continuity since previous administrations have already worked
00:28:08for about ten years on these issues, we will perhaps
00:28:12have the opportunity to come back to it, and at the same time a form of rupture because he wants something
00:28:16that truly transforms the way the Pentagon bureaucracy
00:28:20operates, this bureaucracy, I spent 6 years working directly
00:28:24with the Pentagon, I can talk about it, it is real and the Americans
00:28:27themselves, the officers within the Pentagon complain about it, so it's a
00:28:30reality, the Pentagon has become a gigantic
00:28:34extraordinarily heavy machine, extraordinarily heavy, certainly performing in many
00:28:37areas but extraordinarily heavy, that's a fact, and so he wants to take advantage of it
00:28:41to introduce this rupture in the history of the
00:28:44Pentagon and above all accelerate things in the field and that
00:28:48is his great reform which is a reform that concerned the acquisition of
00:28:51equipment, and this reform had actually been conceived and intended by one of
00:28:55his predecessors, Donald, so more than
00:28:5820 years ago he couldn't see it through.
00:29:01Obviously we know why but today we are in a
00:29:05very favorable situation for the current administration and for others in fact, and the one that
00:29:08preceded it too, meaning that now technologies are
00:29:12available to achieve it and that and that's very important.
00:29:15So that's his ambition and this ambition is actually
00:29:18supported by most experts in the field.
00:29:21Jonathan Guiffard, you also know the Pentagon
00:29:25well, you spent a lot of time in Washington.
00:29:29Would you also say that this bureaucracy of the
00:29:32Pentagon has hindered the innovation of the American
00:29:36army?
00:29:38Well, I would say several things. The first is that you have to keep
00:29:42in mind that this is also a problem that exists in Europe, that's what's interesting, it's that in fact
00:29:46it's not actually a pet problem except, it's a problem for many
00:29:49democracies currently. Then yes, it is
00:29:52indeed the American army is a number of
00:29:56people that is still gigantic and therefore an associated
00:29:59bureaucracy that is indeed very important and therefore...
00:30:03slowness, of difficulty in scaling up, but you also have a
00:30:07long-term problem somewhere, meaning that globally up until
00:30:11the 90s, defense innovation was done under direct control
00:30:15in companies that are used to working with the Pentagon, whereas
00:30:18today a large part of this innovation
00:30:22is in startups, it's very technological so it's in the private
00:30:26sector and so I ask you another
00:30:29acquisition, how to accelerate this...
00:30:33in fact for 70 years you have had somewhat classic but somewhat
00:30:37slow contracting
00:30:39processes with very large companies, how do you do today
00:30:43to capture all these small technologies in all these small
00:30:46startups? So I would like to, I will give you the floor,
00:30:50I would first like us to look at some figures. I
00:30:54put the ranking of the biggest defense budgets,
00:30:57the 10 biggest, so you will see.
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