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00:00:20And welcome if you are joining us on France 24, it is 2 PM in Paris, the floor is open to
00:00:24our commentators, it's time for the Club France 24, hello to all three of you and
00:00:28welcome to the set of Paris Direct. The program is happening right here, we will continue
00:00:32of course to scrutinize this day of mobilization for salaries, a
00:00:35dreaded black day for the government while the inter-union called for a strike,
00:00:38for the convergence of struggles also in the processions of
00:00:42employees, retirees, high school students, we will take the pulse in Paris with Marie
00:00:45Choster in Place de la République, we will also ask ourselves here with you Marc
00:00:49Perelman, hello Marc, what room for maneuver is possible for the government,
00:00:53is there, simply put, that's the real question, the government
00:00:56keeps saying that the coffers are empty, but if... wants to
00:01:00respond to the anger in the streets, it will probably be necessary to make
00:01:03concessions, because there are still many months
00:01:05expect in terms of until the next presidential election, the Americans are still waiting
00:01:09for results in Alaska and in Mississippi, but no matter, for the
00:01:13Democrats, the victory is already undeniable, so clear and frank
00:01:16that within the Republican party, the
00:01:20and the total capture of lines are already starting to shift, we will
00:01:21money, let's be clear, public talk about it with you Anne Corp, hello, hello, yes Jeddy Vance, the Vice President is distancing himself
00:01:25from Donald Trump and Pitt Excep, the Secretary of
00:01:29Defense is... on the hot seat, that's it, you will tell us why and
00:01:32how, especially after this heavy defeat, the question of
00:01:35the economic and commercial policy of the United States
00:01:38also arises, what changes to expect,
00:01:41there are very high expectations at that level too, yes indeed,
00:01:45but in general,
00:01:48we saw it in the private sector, who also Trump bends but doesn't break, meaning that Republicans and
00:01:50Trump really keep control of the levers to
00:01:54govern. So, you have today's program, France 24 Club, let's go,
00:01:58let's go.
00:02:13The movement against viticulture first and it's back in the streets today,
00:02:17employees, civil servants are called to strike this Thursday, November 5th, at
00:02:21the call of the inter-union but also of high school and
00:02:24student organizations, active retired French people are called to
00:02:28join one of the 250 gatherings planned throughout the country, the objective is clear,
00:02:32he holds the purse strings, so within the to bring together angers to put the government
00:02:36dollars, which is roughly equivalent to under pressure, images here live from Place de la République in Paris, from where the
00:02:40Parisian procession is due to set off at 7 am, it is a day of strike that
00:02:44is accompanied by several demonstrations, a
00:02:48mobilization that could gather, according to a note from
00:02:51territorial intelligence, between 50,000 and 700,000 people by the end of
00:02:54the day, the entourage of the union mentioned at
00:02:571 PM 200... 70,000 demonstration
00:03:00demonstrators outside Paris since it will be a separate count,
00:03:03we will find Marie Chester, our special envoy, in Place de la
00:03:07République, Marie, hello,
00:03:11we saw the images from the
00:03:14sky, there are a lot of people already,
00:03:16huh?
00:03:19Indeed, a lot of people here in Place de la République, the
00:03:23procession shouldn't be long in
00:03:27Mississippi. starting, you said it, perhaps the route
00:03:30has been slightly modified, it was initially supposed to start from Place de la Bastille to
00:03:33go to Place de la Concorde and then finally the Paris Police
00:03:36Prefecture decided on an alternative route, the procession
00:03:40must therefore start from Place de la République to arrive
00:03:43at Place de la Nation, a procession which in Paris should
00:03:46gather between 40,000 and 80,000 people according to
00:03:50the unions, I am currently in the middle of the CGT
00:03:54procession and I will immediately join Éric Lacoste, hello
00:03:58Éric, Éric, you are part of the CGT. Hello.
00:04:00the CGT of the National Federation of Private Health, so you
00:04:04work in a private clinic in Montpellier, first a question,
00:04:09October 17th, we saw why did you come to demonstrate here in Paris today? Well, it's to show that the problem is everywhere in France, not
00:04:13only here in Paris, it's a problem throughout the
00:04:16territory, even in the overseas
00:04:20departments, so you explained to me a little earlier that there was a problem of
00:04:24wealth capture in private establishments
00:04:27with this phenomenon of overbilling.
00:04:33Yes, so what you need to understand is the economic
00:04:35system that has been put in place
00:04:38is that in fact, let's be clear, it's the social security system that pays, we all
00:04:42agree, so the private establishments
00:04:45that are health establishments that are private establishments
00:04:48behind them, there are groups, these are groups and pension
00:04:52funds, the first four, well you have Elsan, Ramsay,
00:04:55Vivalto and Alma Viva, who are heavyweights in the
00:04:59sector. This is about 150,000
00:05:02employees in the private health sector in France, so
00:05:05in fact, what's happening is that today our employers no longer want to
00:05:09spend money, it has to be the state
00:05:13that intervenes, we see it through the measures that have been taken, Ségur, rider 32 and
00:05:17riders and systematically, except that we
00:05:20realize today that there is an impact, a blockage on
00:05:23our salaries, but also a direct impact on working conditions,
00:05:27meaning that they block our
00:05:29salaries, employees find it increasingly difficult
00:05:32to take sick leave, they take sick leave, they are not
00:05:36replaced and since they are not replaced,
00:05:40automatically they save money. on the payroll, so
00:05:43they replace a bit, I'm not saying it's zero, but they already recover a
00:05:47part because the famous what we could call state aid
00:05:50they receive whether we are absent or
00:05:53not and in fact it is not passed on to employees, there are
00:05:56studies that have been reported to us, an example on the Ségur, we know
00:06:00perfectly well that the Ségur is not passed on in many
00:06:03establishments to employees, you have
00:06:05the emergency services where the state arrived and put in place
00:06:09emergency bonuses, I personally intervened. for my union for the
00:06:13CGT in certain establishments, notably a clinic next to
00:06:16Montreuil which belongs to the Alma Viva group, the employer did not
00:06:20pay the emergency bonuses, yet they received
00:06:24them well, it's totally scandalous, we are in a
00:06:27framework of total financialization of the system
00:06:34money, money that belongs to us, thank
00:06:37you very much Mr. Lacoste for your intervention, so as I told you, it's
00:06:41a demonstration that... has as its main demand a
00:06:44revaluation of purchasing power, you heard it, a
00:06:48problem of salary that is not necessarily
00:06:52paid in full and this is causing the anger of
00:06:55many demonstrators today hospital staff, there
00:07:01joined the hospital staff of the public
00:07:04sector who are also demonstrating in large numbers today,
00:07:07public sector staff are very numerous today, so as I told
00:07:11you, between... 40,000 and 80,000
00:07:14people expected to demonstrate today in
00:07:17Paris, almost 80,000 estimated by the intelligence services
00:07:21throughout France today. Thank you very much Marie, know that
00:07:24while you were speaking to your interlocutor, a minute of silence, we
00:07:27learn from other journalists on site, a minute of silence for the
00:07:31victim of the racist attack in Trappes was
00:07:34observed at the heart of this Parisian mobilization. Marc
00:07:37Perelman, hello again, it's time to take a bit of a
00:07:41step back, there's what's happening in Paris and then in about 80 cities
00:07:44in France, so it's being expressed everywhere in the
00:07:48country, with demands, we hear it here, we had
00:07:51this gentleman talking about health, we had just before a firefighter, we had high school students
00:07:54this morning, demands that are multiple and very
00:07:58varied, let's remember that initially these are young minors who express
00:08:02their anger, high school students, today it has spread, yes it has spread, so
00:08:06in fact this mobilization of November 5th had been decided
00:08:10before the high school students' movement, in early October, there was
00:08:12a day of mobilization for public services and the unions had
00:08:16decided that on November 5th there would be a day
00:08:20of strike, of demonstration. In the meantime, there
00:08:23has been this high school student movement that no one saw coming, neither the
00:08:26government obviously as could be seen, nor even the
00:08:30unions, and so it's true that there is this stated
00:08:33desire for a convergence of struggles, that's what
00:08:36the high school students say, that's what the yellow vests say, that's what the unions say, that's what...
00:08:40the government obviously
00:08:42fears, so for today, it's certainly a done deal,
00:08:45the big question is obviously what will happen, will the
00:08:49unions, which is expected, once
00:08:52again call a new date for a strike and demonstration, will the
00:08:56movement continue to develop, we saw that in high
00:08:59schools in recent days there have been far fewer blockades than
00:09:03there have been, will this coordinate with other
00:09:07demonstrations on Saturday, in any case the government is...
00:09:11obviously under pressure, so there was also the security
00:09:14question, we know there were many excesses, less the
00:09:18last two Saturdays than obviously
00:09:21that there were some incidents, notably in Lyon, in Toulouse also a
00:09:25building that was part of it, so obviously there is a
00:09:28security response from a government that was caught
00:09:32unprepared, as they politely
00:09:35put it, meaning they completely missed the boat on October
00:09:3817th, but there is also a political response
00:09:43within a very constrained
00:09:46budgetary framework with a government, a prime minister who
00:09:49keeps saying that he is the weakest of the 5th Republic, the
00:09:53demonstrators have understood that well and they know that they can push
00:09:56until they get concessions, so precisely what room for maneuver is possible in the face of a
00:10:00government that makes no proposals, in any case that was the case until now,
00:10:04we remember the unions the last time they were received in the morning, their departure was
00:10:07extremely disappointed, a government that keeps repeating that there is no more money in the
00:10:11coffers. Yes, but the argument doesn't hold up obviously, we have already
00:10:15seen, to talk about the high school students, there have been some concessions,
00:10:19the planned end of the Parcoursup program.
00:10:23which provides that high school students make
00:10:25requests for their university studies and which is contested because
00:10:28it is not clear, so that has been announced, there has been money
00:10:32announced for the renovation of
00:10:35high schools, additional places, teachers, well
00:10:38obviously the high school students said it's not enough, but the government has still
00:10:42given a little ground, it could continue to do so, after the
00:10:46big question is purchasing power and so there are
00:10:49some avenues that have been evoked, notably
00:10:52advancing the revaluation of the
00:10:55minimum wage, the minimum wage normally takes effect
00:10:59on January 1st, here it could take effect on December
00:11:031st with also and that's
00:11:06obviously perhaps more important for the unions, a possible
00:11:09boost to this minimum wage, an increase, it's the state
00:11:13that must decide, there hasn't been one since 2012, it was under
00:11:17François Hollande, so that could obviously
00:11:20play a role, we also heard that the government wanted to
00:11:24raise the Livret A ceiling, this very
00:11:27popular savings product, that could perhaps be used for funding, some have
00:11:31specifically mentioned the renovation of high schools, but does all
00:11:34that provide the expected answer by the unions,
00:11:38by the high school students, it's obviously a big
00:11:41question mark, nothing is less certain indeed, all this
00:11:44it must be remembered in the midst of negotiations on the 2027
00:11:47budget project, it was rejected
00:11:50unanimously yesterday by the National Assembly, it's the revenue
00:11:53component, the Senate... passed the buck, we're back to square one in
00:11:57principle, yes, but it's a game of doubles, meaning everyone is pretending,
00:12:01by the way, the deputies don't even go to the assembly because they
00:12:04know that the budget will never be adopted,
00:12:07so they unravel all the savings
00:12:10measures notably planned by the government, knowing full well that
00:12:14it will not pass in the Senate, so it's true that
00:12:17the budgetary discussions which officially started for now
00:12:21are going nowhere, so the big question is what
00:12:25will happen, will the government pull out Article
00:12:2949/3 which allows a budget to be passed without
00:12:32a vote in exchange, so to speak, for a possible motion of
00:12:35no confidence, or will it use for the first time under the 5th
00:12:39Republic ordinances which would allow the government's budget
00:12:42to be passed as is, that has never been done, for
00:12:46that the budgetary negotiations in
00:12:49Parliament must last 70 days or
00:12:52more, so that is, I would say, the government's last resort
00:12:56to try to pass a budget that Sébastien Lecornu and the
00:12:59President of the Republic deem absolutely necessary to
00:13:03reassure the markets because the financial situation
00:13:06of France is deteriorating, debt is
00:13:09obviously a big issue, the markets are watching, Brussels
00:13:12is worried and so the government hopes to pass
00:13:15it, no doubt by force, because the negotiations, once again with a
00:13:19government so weakened with the presidential election. in
00:13:23a few months, it's hard to see how a compromise could be
00:13:27found, that's a lot of topics, thank you very much Marc
00:13:30Perelman, we will obviously continue to monitor this mobilization
00:13:34of November 5th closely,
00:13:37while waiting to return to this Parisian procession, I
00:13:40propose to head to the United States
00:13:43two days after the midterms, we will obviously continue to
00:13:47wait for some results, Alaska but also
00:13:52No matter the outcome in these states, the Democrats
00:13:55swept the Senate and the House with
00:13:59big victories also on the part of governors. On the
00:14:03Republican side, however, it's a grim
00:14:06picture, some have started to pressure Donald Trump,
00:14:10calling on him to completely reshuffle his administration and change his strategy
00:14:13on his policy. The defeat is particularly difficult for
00:14:17Jeddy Vens to stomach, associated with a president at the end of his term, he who was a favorite
00:14:21for the Republican nomination, he tries to
00:14:25distance himself from the president, attributing, like him, this
00:14:28electoral disaster to the war in Iran, I suggest listening to
00:14:32Donald Trump on this
00:14:35subject.
00:14:37I think that's largely true because that led to a slight rise in gas prices
00:14:41in the short term, but I thought the price of oil would go up much
00:14:45more and that's what I acted on, we had no choice, we had to do it, we can't let
00:14:49Iran get nuclear weapons, otherwise everything you see here could very well
00:14:52disappear one day.
00:14:55That's it for these last words pronounced by the American
00:14:58president, after such a result, there are clearly already expectations that are
00:15:02expressed, internally of course, but also abroad,
00:15:05we will see with you first what is happening internally,
00:15:08Anne Corpe, I said in the teaser earlier, the lines
00:15:12are starting to shift within the Republicans,
00:15:15yes, after such a defeat, there is an atmosphere of settling scores
00:15:18that is starting to set in, so first this long
00:15:22message. from Jevens, the Vice President on social
00:15:26networks, a message in which he attributes his camp's defeat
00:15:29to the war in Iran, it was
00:15:33obvious to everyone or almost. This
00:15:36"almost" obviously directly targets
00:15:40Donald Trump, so Jeddy
00:15:43Vance has always been deeply
00:15:46isolationist, he was perceived
00:15:49as hostile to any military
00:15:52adventure abroad, but this is the first time he has publicly
00:15:56and so openly distanced himself from the
00:15:59president, he obviously has the 2028
00:16:02presidential election in his sights, he appears as a sort of
00:16:06natural candidate for the succession
00:16:08of Donald Trump, Marco Rubio,
00:16:12the other potential successor to Donald Trump, well, he's
00:16:16silent, not a word on his social media,
00:16:19no public statement, the head of the
00:16:23State Department, who is also National Security Advisor, is
00:16:26probably waiting for his time, no doubt waiting
00:16:30for things to calm down a bit before
00:16:33resuming the offensive, and then... a man
00:16:35who is the target of attacks, including from
00:16:39within the Republican camp, is Pit Texet, the Secretary of
00:16:43Defense, he was a staunch supporter of the
00:16:46war in Iran, and he is also criticized for his
00:16:50disastrous management of the Pentagon, there is
00:16:53Republican Representative Thomas Massie of
00:16:57Kentucky who has already warned that he will launch an
00:17:01impeachment procedure against Pitexet as
00:17:05early as next week unless
00:17:08he resigns, meaning without even waiting for the new
00:17:12Democratic majority to take office in early
00:17:16January, Donald Trump for now
00:17:20remains by the side of his Secretary of Defense, he said yesterday
00:17:23that he was in charge of the war and that he had done a
00:17:26very good job, that he did not envisage for the time
00:17:30being to dismiss him, Pitex could choose to
00:17:33resign to avoid this humiliation of a trial in
00:17:37Congress. But he's not the only one, because there are several members of this American administration who
00:17:40have something to worry about, let's look at what's happening outside as
00:17:44well, these clear results naturally
00:17:48raise very high expectations expressed notably in Ukraine, we heard this
00:17:51morning Volodimir Zelensky hoping for more American support for his
00:17:55country, so he hopes, he has reason to hope but it should be noted
00:17:58that it is the president who keeps control of foreign policy in the
00:18:01United States, whatever the majority in Congress, he has a
00:18:05small margin of maneuver in Congress because...
00:18:09framework of budgetary negotiations with the executive, he
00:18:13could vote for new aid to Ukraine or the
00:18:17reestablishment of sanctions against Russia, sanctions
00:18:20lifted recently by the White
00:18:23House, in any case concerned about the legacy he will
00:18:26leave in history, Donald Trump will try to move forward on this issue that he had
00:18:30promised, I remind you, to resolve in
00:18:3324 hours, Melania
00:18:37is also expected to receive Ukrainian and Russian representatives
00:18:40at the White House today, it's not the first time the First Lady
00:18:44has been involved in this issue, she had already worked for the liberation
00:18:48of Ukrainian children who had been kidnapped by the
00:18:51Russians and then she also participated in the implementation of
00:18:54this truce in Olehki, this Ukrainian city
00:18:58occupied by the Russians, Volodimir
00:19:01Zelensky also awarded her a decoration
00:19:05yesterday for her personal contribution to...
00:19:08humanitarian aid and then on the political front, there is a meeting next
00:19:11week between Russians and Ukrainians under the auspices of the Americans,
00:19:15there hasn't been a meeting in this format since last
00:19:19February, Volodimir Zelensky had a long
00:19:22telephone conversation yesterday with the American emissaries, he
00:19:26always insists on the same needs for Patriot
00:19:29missiles to ensure air defense
00:19:32and security guarantees in case of a ceasefire
00:19:36on his side. Moscow seems
00:19:39to be counting on the continuation of a conciliatory attitude by the
00:19:43White House towards Russia and does not
00:19:46seem to expect much at all from these talks in Abu Dhabi since this
00:19:49morning the Kremlin spokesman said that Russia's
00:19:53interests would be guaranteed either by military
00:19:56means or by peaceful
00:20:00means, but that would only be if a new
00:20:03personality emerged in Kyiv.
00:20:06Hmm. We hear the Republicans, they blame the
00:20:10war in Iran, a lot, and for Iran, what could
00:20:13possibly change? Well, after Jeddy Vance's long
00:20:16message, we heard it, Donald Trump himself admitted that the
00:20:19war in Iran probably played a role in his camp's
00:20:23defeat, even if he takes responsibility for the
00:20:27US entering the war, on several occasions, before
00:20:30this election, Donald Trump had spoken of
00:20:34the threat of carrying out massive strikes on
00:20:37Iran after the elections,
00:20:41he notably considered striking, you know, that mountain of
00:20:44the pickaxe under which nuclear facilities were said to be
00:20:47hidden. That would risk increasing
00:20:51the anger of Americans, so on the political front Donald Trump has nothing
00:20:55more to lose but he is still very concerned about his image, so he could
00:20:58seek to accelerate negotiations, the problem is
00:21:02that the situation has become
00:21:04much more complicated than before the war, there is the question of
00:21:08the Strait of Hormuz over which Iran wants to maintain
00:21:12its control or at least establish a right of passage contrary
00:21:16to what international law provides.
00:21:20And then there's the arrival of this new actor, the
00:21:23Houthis who continue to attack
00:21:26Saudi Arabia, so negotiations that
00:21:30promise to be complicated and
00:21:32Donald Trump risks having trouble getting out of this
00:21:36quagmire quickly, well there are a lot of topics here too, it will be interesting to
00:21:40see how that plays out later, there's a point we haven't
00:21:43discussed together, it's the economic aspect, the economy, it's
00:21:47on this point, this argument that the Americans voted on Tuesday,
00:21:51Ali, what should we
00:21:55US economic and trade policy, what possible changes?
00:21:59First, we will have to expect a rebalancing of powers in the
00:22:02United States, you know what they say about checks and balances, the balance between
00:22:06the executive, the legislative, there is a new legislative
00:22:09power now from January 3rd only,
00:22:11be careful, they will have to talk, you
00:22:15saw President Trump before the terms put on his red
00:22:19hat. which says veto on it, he himself expressed
00:22:23that he would be Mr. Veto, otherwise,
00:22:27that sets the tone, he will oppose a certain number of positions taken by
00:22:30Congress on that, but he also
00:22:34knows, he said it, he knows that he will have to find
00:22:37compromises with the Democrats, so he will
00:22:41refuse no doubt at first, then after that it will be necessary
00:22:44obviously to agree and find compromises, so on
00:22:48which particular issue? could there be eventual
00:22:52compromises? well, the budget, we are right in the middle of it in the United States
00:22:552027, we were in negotiation on the budget, it stopped
00:22:59a little with the terms, it will resume and it will be necessary
00:23:03in effect for us to find compromises between Republicans and
00:23:07Democrats, so he has on one side a Trump who wants less
00:23:10taxes for the rich, less money for
00:23:14social programs and more money for the army,
00:23:17a record, he asked in 2020.
00:23:201500 billion dollars for the army budget, 1500 billion
00:23:26American involvement during the Second World War, you
00:23:30see the levels, the Democrats, on the other hand, it's the opposite
00:23:33they want on the contrary less tax
00:23:37reduction on the richest, on the wealthiest
00:23:40and on the contrary, they want more social programs, in
00:23:44particular this famous Medicare program which
00:23:47obviously helps on the plan. if we take
00:23:51Trump's great law
00:23:53uh the one big beautiful act that was voted and which
00:23:57announces nearly 1500 billion
00:24:00dollars in tax reductions for the richest, all that
00:24:04obviously will weigh on the American debt which is a
00:24:08record 40,000 billion dollars, so there between
00:24:11Democrats and Republicans it will be necessary to agree, the problem is
00:24:15that it will be necessary to agree with the old team in
00:24:18Congress since... the budget will have to be
00:24:21finalized on December 11th and if it's not finalized on December 11th,
00:24:25it's the risk of the famous shutdown,
00:24:28so obviously all this will be done with the current
00:24:32Congress, and then there are other
00:24:35issues that will arise obviously with tensions
00:24:38over Ukraine, as you perfectly said, Congress
00:24:42can vote for additional aid budgets to
00:24:45Ukraine, but Trump has done it, meaning he blocks them
00:24:49and he has... already done it, he has already blocked additional
00:24:52aid to Ukraine, there will also be problems
00:24:56agreeing on nominations, because now it's up to
00:24:59Congress, and then there will be great tensions because obviously
00:25:03we hear it, Democrats want their little revenge and they will launch a
00:25:07number of investigations notably on
00:25:10conflicts of interest and possible corruption, corruption
00:25:14was a big, big subject during indeed the whole
00:25:18campaign, trade policy. Quickly, Alie, which affects the rest of the world, that concerns
00:25:22us a bit more, what can we expect as consequences? We know that the
00:25:26Supreme Court in February 2026 blocked
00:25:30the famous customs duties, the liberation dead of April 2nd,
00:25:33so customs duties will be a little blocked by
00:25:37Congress, however the President Trump can always
00:25:40rely on a number of laws and not brand new laws,
00:25:43the Tariff Act of 1930, the Trade Act
00:25:47of 62, the Trade Act of 64. So all
00:25:50these are laws that contain
00:25:53sections articles that allow the President of the United States
00:25:57to impose customs duties for periods
00:26:01obviously between 15 and 50 days and a little more for a
00:26:04number of laws, so there too there will undoubtedly be discussions
00:26:08back and forth between Congress and the
00:26:12President on these issues and they will undoubtedly
00:26:15also be contested, it is already the case before the American
00:26:19courts. Thank you very much Alie, thank you
00:26:22to all three of you, an American president
00:26:26overwhelmed by the issues, like this blue wave that
00:26:29took hold of him, look... look at this
00:26:32drawing blue nami to
00:26:35illustrate the blue wave democrat
00:26:38regularly discussed, I can tell you that social networks are having a field day
00:26:41since yesterday, Americans
00:26:44obviously who have made all sorts of images of reels as we
00:26:48say, uh I suggest you watch now, ah, this image, I found
00:26:52it extra, the Destiny Child happy
00:26:55blue wave joyful blue wave House
00:26:58Senate Governor absolutely swept everything, he is forced to be
00:27:02exfiltrated by his security service and then I saved the best for
00:27:05last, this French artist Joanille, thank you, you may
00:27:08have already seen who organized a clandestine projection on the Trump
00:27:12Tower, not the one in New York but the one in Las
00:27:15Vegas, or how a simple little word
00:27:18added like that in a hurry can change everything, Trump out,
00:27:22Trump out, that's not bad, right? Yeah, except he's still going to stay for 2 years, that's not
00:27:26wrong, that's not wrong, we'll still have to count on him and his many outings,
00:27:30even if he's a bit quieter now since Wednesday
00:27:33morning, thank you for following us, in any case, this is the end of this club, stay with us, we continue to talk to you about American
00:27:37politics, of course, behind the image, James André is joining
00:27:41us, I'll see you in a
00:27:42moment,
00:27:49the economy is at the heart of our lives, you want to know the right
00:27:53gestures to protect our planet, encourage consumers to resell
00:27:56their products that are lying in a drawer and are useless. The economy is on the front line
00:28:00to stop the damage. Come meet those who create
00:28:04new ways of producing and consuming, they will be with me in
00:28:07Plan B, the economy differently, but was able to make this
00:28:11plastic without using a petrochemical
00:28:14polymer, their ideas will help us act, there is no
00:28:18planet B, but there are plans B and it's every week on France
00:28:2224.
00:30:17It's 2:30 PM in Paris, welcome to your appointment, behind the image, we take the time to
00:30:21decipher the news from a photo, I've already spilled the beans, we're going to talk about American
00:30:24politics again with you, James Sanray, we meet after a
00:30:28short night, let's put it that way, we spent the American night together, there are still things to
00:30:32say. Of course, we are now taking a bit of a step back,
00:30:35even if we still hear the results from Mississippi and Alaska, but oh well,
00:30:38it doesn't matter, it won't change anything at this stage, it's over for the
00:30:42Democrats, I'm talking too much, we're behind the image normally we look at a photo, a shot you have
00:30:46chosen, so we're going to look at it and then you're going to explain to us why this choice, and yes, because this photo may seem
00:30:50a bit strange, well, it's Chris Papas who was elected in
00:30:53New Hampshire and he holds hands as a sign of
00:30:56victory with his husband.