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00:00:17Il est 14h30 à Paris, bienvenue dans votre rendez-vous derrière l'image, on prend le temps de
00:00:21décrypter l'info à partir d'une photo, je vous ai déjà vendu la mèche, on va partir parler encore
00:00:38et de de l'alaska mais bon peu importe ça va absolument rien changer pour ce stade c'est
00:00:41plié pour les démocrates je parle beaucoup trop là on est dans derrière l'image normalement on regarde une photo un
00:00:45cliché que vous avez choisi alors on va le regarder et puis vous allez nous expliquer pourquoi ce choix et oui
00:00:49parce que ça peut paraître un peu bizarre cette photo et bien il s'agit de Chris Papas qui a donc été
00:00:53elected in New Hampshire and he holds his hand in a sign of
00:00:56victory to his
00:00:59husband, and in that sense, it's historic, why? Because Chris Papas
00:01:02becomes the first American senator to be
00:01:05openly gay and to be elected to this
00:01:08position, and why did I choose this photo? I chose this photo because
00:01:12he didn't talk about it during his campaign, and that's what I find
00:01:16absolutely remarkable, meaning he did his entire campaign with his
00:01:19husband by his side, and he campaigned on issues that
00:01:23interested the residents of New Hampshire, others
00:01:26spoke for him, meaning he was introduced by young people, for example, on stage
00:01:30where they said, "Listen, if he were elected, he would be, etc.," but he himself didn't
00:01:33talk about it, and what I find extraordinary and interesting about this is the fact that if
00:01:37we had been in 2016, that would have
00:01:40been his main campaign theme, he would have said, "Vote for
00:01:43me, I will be the first openly gay senator in the history of the
00:01:47United States," and now we are in 2026, 10 years later,
00:01:50and he doesn't say a word about it, why? Simply because I
00:01:53think, and this is my theory emerging from this election, that
00:01:57we have exited a cycle of extremism and
00:02:01political violence in the United States, that this cycle began
00:02:05Republican party that needs to take stock of the during Barack Obama's second term, and what we
00:02:08have seen with this blue wave is
00:02:12the end of what is called in the United States identity politics, that is to say
00:02:16this way Democrats had of systematically saying "perfect, we
00:02:20need we absolutely need to
00:02:22serve each minority individually,
00:02:26our program must be based on that, our candidates must be...
00:02:30I don't know, gay, or women, or from
00:02:33minorities, and that it has become the alpha and omega of a certain
00:02:37American left, and it seems that this has passed, and
00:02:41I think this is a strong symbol, so it's not an isolated case, but this is what
00:02:44makes it so that politicians like Chris Papas were
00:02:48elected, he's gay, it's not a big deal, ultimately it bothered no one,
00:02:52he was elected in New Hampshire, I visited it, by the way, I wonder if we weren't together at the time,
00:02:56it's a rural state, while it's
00:03:06a place where people ice fish, it's a rural place, completely north of
00:03:10the state of the United States, and
00:03:14if we go back a few years, remember well, this state made this choice
00:03:17left-wing candidate who managed to without... I'm going to ask you a question, James, because we were talking about it earlier off-air, it's true that you have a very
00:03:22opponent, who was from the optimistic view of things, the end of a cycle of political violence in this
00:03:25case, isn't it simply the Democratic party that decided to
00:03:29focus the cursor? on the priority of Americans, namely purchasing
00:03:33power, whereas before we could afford the luxury of talking about other things, now
00:03:36they have absolutely put everything on that, oh no, purchasing power is
00:03:40obviously absolutely crucial, now I think what we need to see clearly is that purchasing
00:03:43power is not the first time it's been the central theme of the campaign,
00:03:46remember the 2020 campaign where everyone was talking about
00:03:50what? the price of eggs, remember, at the time it was Joe Biden, it was the
00:03:54bidonmix, there was a massive inflation in the United States
00:03:58and there was an absolute denial of others.
00:04:00and to a certain extent, that's what helped Donald Trump be brought to
00:04:04power again, so it's true that Donald Trump very
00:04:06clearly does everything he can to drive up prices in the country, we're obviously
00:04:10thinking of his tariffs, we're thinking especially of the war in Iran and its impact on
00:04:14fuel prices, and let's be clear, JD Evans, for
00:04:18once, I agree with him, yes, they lost this election largely because
00:04:22of fuel prices and this war in Iran which is deeply unpopular, it's good
00:04:25to say it now, but it would have been good to say it before, right? Yes,
00:04:28Vince, yes. He said it, but well, he was against it, and
00:04:32by the way, yes, but now he's distancing himself in a
00:04:36Trump administration, it's going to be war, James, no? spectacular way, we'll get to that later when we talk about the Republican party, but in any case, no, what I think is that the Democrats understood
00:04:40that that didn't work, it's true that I think because we've been observing the
00:04:43United States for years now, that we
00:04:47saw the cursor go too far on everything that was
00:04:51societal and to the left with the Democrats and a figure like
00:04:54AOC who was
00:04:57re-elected in New York, she said it, she said in an
00:05:00interview with ABC, we remember, it caused a lot of ink to flow, it was in August,
00:05:04"woke one was crazy," that is to say, went too far into
00:05:07wokism, she who had gone so far as not to want to use the word
00:05:10woman, since she said "people who menstruate," that was the literal translation of her
00:05:14way of referring to women at the time, we had gone very, very far and very clearly, in any
00:05:18case, I think so, that's what brought Donald Trump back to
00:05:21power, a first time and then a second, and I think that in fact what is happening,
00:05:25but this is also valid for the Republican party, it is today a kind of refocusing, that is to say,
00:05:29where there had been an extremely violent pendulum that had first gone completely to the left to
00:05:33the point that many Americans no longer recognized themselves
00:05:36in what was happening, and now it has completely gone, it had completely gone
00:05:40to the right to the point that there too, and... we see it also with these results, many
00:05:44Americans, including hard-line Republicans, were saying, "But this is
00:06:00time being, so a point for the Democrats, the hardest part may
00:06:04be yet to come, I want to say, it's an extremely
00:06:07divided party, what does it mean to be a Democrat today, what does it mean to be on the left
00:06:11in the United States? That will be a big question and there's a real risk for the
00:06:14party in the coming months, ah, this party is torn,
00:06:17it's torn, it's lacking leaders, by the way, it's interesting because we see some who
00:06:21will undoubtedly emerge after these elections, we saw personalities stand out, very
00:06:25interesting personalities, by the way, but in the polls to know who was the
00:06:28favorite for the 2028 presidential
00:06:32election on the Democratic side, just before this election, we were told
00:06:35that it was Kamala Harris, meaning when we saw the
00:06:39result last time, it was perhaps not the best solution. And so, yes, of course,
00:06:43they are torn, they are torn between this rather centrist wing that would be represented, we can
00:06:47say, by James Stalarico, James
00:06:50Stalarico, who is this Democrat who won
00:06:54in Texas, which is extraordinary, he won for several
00:06:58reasons, first he had a catastrophic opponent in front of him, an extremist, Ken
00:07:01Paxton, who was also perceived as quite corrupt, but he won
00:07:05because he said: "Come on, we have to work with Republicans, we have to serve Texans, we
00:07:09have to stop tearing ourselves apart, I'm ready to work with... others,
00:07:12and I am not a dogmatist." The same thing
00:07:16in Kansas, there too, an absolutely
00:07:19remarkable victory, Kansas where a Democratic
00:07:22senator, pardon me, was elected for the first time since 1932, he
00:07:26says, "My father is a Republican, I can get along with Republicans, we need to go back to the
00:07:30center, we need to stop being too ideological." And on the other
00:07:33side, indeed, Abdullah al-Sayed, who for his part is a
00:07:37representative completely of this other Democratic wing who also
00:07:41wins but who... who wins a seat that already belonged to the Democrats,
00:07:45the nuance is extremely important in Michigan, and Abdullah Al-Sayyad,
00:07:48who is of Egyptian origin, who is the
00:07:52first, he has a lot of history in this election, the first
00:07:56Arab-American senator and, above all,
00:07:59Muslim senator in the history of
00:08:02Congress. So he is progressive, he is willingly
00:08:06on the fringes of the Democratic Socialists of America, which is this
00:08:09new very left-wing movement that is
00:08:12gaining momentum. But the counter-example of El Sayed is what happened in
00:08:16Florida with Mrs. Nixon, who actually lost, and
00:08:20what's interesting in this story is that if we rewind to the time of the
00:08:23Democratic primaries in
00:08:26Florida, well, she's a very
00:08:29win that primary even though she was less funded than her
00:08:35party establishment, well-funded, well-supported, rather centrist.
00:08:38Ultimately, it's Mrs. Nixon who wins
00:08:42that primary and who then loses in this midterm election, and
00:08:46that had already been predicted at the time by the pollsters who said she was too far to the left to
00:08:49rally the center, so that's going to be the question, you have to see that Joe Biden
00:08:53was rather a centrist and there too saw the result, but in
00:08:57all cases, yes, the Democratic party will have to choose, will have to
00:09:01choose if it is more Talarico, if it is
00:09:03more Alexandria Ocasio
00:09:07Cortes, and it's rather to the left, what's
00:09:10interesting is that, and we see it in this election, the Republican
00:09:13party had managed to monopolize being the party of the common
00:09:17people, of the workers, of the disadvantaged classes, and it seems that the
00:09:21Democrats have managed to regain ground in
00:09:25this demographic group, and that's going to be very important for
00:09:282028, so they're going to have to find a line and find
00:09:31leaders, and it's going to be interesting to observe how that's going to
00:09:35happen, who have obviously started to
00:09:37emerge, obviously, especially during this
00:09:41election. We're going to have a cohabitation between the
00:09:45Democrats and the
00:09:48So, is it going to be war? That's obviously the first thing we say,
00:09:51but everyone said, "Oh no, Donald Trump will refuse the election results,
00:09:55he'll contest them, he'll..." First reaction on the phone: "Well, congratulations, guys,
00:09:59you ran a good campaign, I lost,
00:10:02I don't see why I would contest the results." It's quite wonderful to hear Donald Trump say
00:10:06that, it was on the phone immediately
00:10:08after on Fox News,
00:10:12Donald Trump who says he's ready to work with Democrats and who says,
00:10:16"You know, I have a lot of friends among Democrats." In short, he's
00:10:19perhaps worried. Well, I think there are several things. I think first,
00:10:23the first thing is that the results are so clear that it would be completely ridiculous to go to
00:10:26court to contest them. That's the first point. I also think, having
00:10:30gone to Wyoming for a report with
00:10:33my colleague Sylvain Rousseau for 15 days,
00:10:37that he has lost his base, that is, this famous MAGA base that was
00:10:41unwavering, and well, today it has turned away from
00:10:44him, especially because of the war in Iran, and so he knows that no one else
00:10:48is going to go take the Capitol for him, and I prove this by the fact
00:10:52that we went to this state, which is the reddest of... all the red states, where we
00:10:56interviewed people who were absolutely
00:10:59convinced Trump supporters. You have to know that they voted more than 70%, or even more than 70%,
00:11:03for Donald Trump in Wyoming, and there we met
00:11:06Republicans, members of the Republican party, who were pure
00:11:09and hard-line and who said, "No, we can't take it anymore, he betrayed us, he's waging war in Iran
00:11:13even though he promised he wouldn't, he's raising fuel prices, he's
00:11:17bringing in foreign beef, which is destroying our
00:11:20incomes," since there are a lot of ranchers, we see the images behind me, so there's a real
00:11:24real exhaustion, and what we noticed
00:11:28during this filming with Sylvain is that in fact, there's an
00:11:31old guard, as he calls it, Republican, who has put money back on the
00:11:35table, who is restocking, who is saying, "Wait, the Republican party
00:11:39is not this extremist Donald Trump party, it's a party
00:11:42that was John McCain's, that was Ronald Reagan's, that was a
00:11:46pro-business party, not necessarily
00:11:48entrenched on immigration, on the contrary, it was rather pro-
00:11:52immigration, and it's not at all the party that Donald Trump
00:11:56ultimately took in this kind of hostile takeover of
00:11:592016. So it's interesting to see if this current within the Republicans will return to
00:12:03power or not, but in any case, Donald Trump finds himself
00:12:06with a masterful defeat on his hands, a very
00:12:10important admission, and a situation where he cannot contest this election. So the next
00:12:13step is that he also said during the same phone call, "I'm going to be Mr.
00:12:17Veto, and we're going to negotiate the new cascade." We saw the new cascade,
00:12:21exactly, the famous "Make America Great Again" has disappeared from
00:12:25his vetoes, so that still gives us an idea of what could be next, this
00:12:30Trump era, turn to the future, it has deep
00:12:34divisions, you just mentioned them, we still have the impression that America today
00:12:38is making a 180° turn, we saw
00:12:41these Americans from Texas, just to name a few, wake up to discover the
00:12:45results on television, I don't think they've quite recovered yet, they're probably still
00:12:48digesting the victory, that's a concept, digesting a victory,
00:12:52uh, what does that tell us today about American
00:12:55political culture, this turnaround, anything is possible?
00:12:59So first, I want to say one thing: I find it magnificent for American democracy, which still functions
00:13:02in an exceptional way, and it's
00:13:06always magical to see it in action, meaning that in
00:13:092016, a billionaire from nowhere came and won
00:13:13the election, so we saw the consequences, but it was still incredible to
00:13:16see that no one had
00:13:20impression that the administration
00:13:24was all-powerful, that it led this country by terror, and that ultimately,
00:13:27no, once again, the citizens expressed
00:13:31themselves, and the result was respected. It also says
00:13:34that it's not the first time we've seen 180° turns in the United States, because
00:13:39Barack Obama's election, we still have an America that voted twice
00:13:43for George W. Bush, which we often forget, it's funny, he now looks like an old
00:13:47sage, but George W. Bush was still
00:13:51the intervener in the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan.
00:13:55It's all the measures we know, you remember, it was Edward Snowden, it was
00:13:58mass surveillance, it's incredible everything that happened under Bush, the least we can
00:14:02say is that he wasn't a choirboy, and then boom, they elect Barack
00:14:06Obama, the first black progressive president of the
00:14:09United States in an election in 2008,
00:14:12and they have two terms of that, and boom, they give us Donald Trump, so
00:14:16I want to say, well, it's still
00:14:18possible, as they say, they like it to shake things up, so to speak,
00:14:22and so that's what they did again this time. The question is, what's going to
00:14:26happen now? Because what we could also have, the Democrats, and you're right, I'm
00:14:29optimistic, but maybe I'm wrong, the Democrats could also get into what
00:14:33we could call revenge politics, which is what Donald Trump
00:14:36wanted to do, he wanted to make those who hurt him
00:14:39pay. And in my opinion, they would be wrong to do it, because I spent
00:14:4315 days in the United States and people are tired, they don't want it, but they
00:14:47could embark on an interminable cycle of hearings, trials,
00:14:50of attacks, of attempts to
00:14:53impeach different officials and Donald Trump
00:14:56himself, which will be a temptation, let's be
00:14:59clear, and well, we'll see if the Democrats restart a new cycle of violence or
00:15:03démocrates un nouveau cycle de violence ou
00:15:18politics, I think we will have a lot to say in the coming
00:15:22weeks, thank you for following us, this is the end of behind the image,
00:15:26the news continues on France
00:15:2724.
00:15:44It is on this roundabout at the foot of the Arlington military
00:15:46cemetery that Donald Trump wants to erect a 250-foot
00:15:50arch, nearly 76 meters, to celebrate
00:15:53the 250th anniversary of American
00:15:55independence.
00:15:58A project strongly contested by many veterans like Shawn
00:16:02Burns, a Vietnam
00:16:04War veteran.
00:16:07It will obstruct the view of the Lincoln Memorial and the Memorial
00:16:10Bridge, erected to symbolize reconciliation
00:16:14and reunification of the country after the Civil War.
00:16:16Shawn believes that the 250th anniversary
00:16:18of the United States is just a pretext to justify a
00:16:21narcissistic initiative by the American president. He has therefore decided
00:16:25to sue the government alongside two other
00:16:29former combatants.
00:16:31combattant.
00:16:34I am a decorated veteran of the Purple Heart, it's a
00:16:37combat, Trump avoided
00:16:39conscription,
00:16:42the idea that he could erect a gigantic monument to his own
00:16:45glory, which would overshadow the graves
00:16:49in this cemetery, this sacred place, deeply
00:16:53revolts me.
00:16:57If a monument were to be erected for the 250th anniversary of our country,
00:17:01something many people would never have considered before, it should
00:17:04celebrate the accomplishments of our people.
00:17:10A few days ago, the District of Columbia and the State of Virginia also
00:17:13filed a lawsuit in federal court in the hope of blocking the
00:17:17project. Donald Trump had already tried to put his name on the
00:17:20Kennedy Center before a judge forced him to remove it last
00:17:24May.
00:17:29Since his return to power, the president has been multiplying
00:17:32initiatives to reshape the American capital in his own image,
00:17:36which is angering part of the
00:17:38population.
00:17:41However, the White House is not worried, in his arch
00:17:44project, Donald Trump is simply awaiting validation from the National
00:17:48Capital Planning Commission this November
00:17:495th.
00:17:57A commission where the American president has appointed several loyalists
00:18:00and which had already pre-validated the arch in
00:18:02July.
00:18:38an organization that mobilizes Americans over 60 around the defense
00:18:41of democracy.
00:18:44People are angry for many reasons, and in my
00:18:48eyes, all of them are legitimate, the chosen location, the dimensions of the
00:18:52monument, its cost, and the fact that the project is being carried out without
00:18:55congressional approval, it's
00:18:57illegal.
00:19:01We cannot let this happen. Unfortunately, as
00:19:04we have seen lately, the president always gets his way.
00:19:09If the project is approved, work would begin
00:19:12immediately. The administration has already presented a schedule
00:19:16according to which the construction site would operate 20 hours a day, all year round
00:19:19for 2 to 3 years, a prospect that raises questions
00:19:23about air safety.
00:19:27One of the points that could pose a problem is that we don't yet know if the monument
00:19:30will be equipped with decorative lighting to highlight it at
00:19:34night.
00:19:37distance, such lighting could distract pilots, or even cause
00:19:41glare for those who want to
00:19:43proximity.
00:19:48Thomas Lintner spent 30 years with the
00:19:51FAA, the federal agency in charge of civil aviation,
00:19:54which concluded in September that the arch would not pose a danger to
00:19:58aircraft. But for the former air traffic controller, the question
00:20:02of helicopter traffic remains. Nearly
00:20:0590 flights are recorded every day in the Washington
00:20:08area.
00:20:11Helicopters use marked air corridors,
00:20:14listed on maps that indicate the presence of
00:20:18fixed obstacles and allow them to navigate along the
00:20:21Potomac.
00:20:24But these itineraries do not require them to fly on a precise side of the
00:20:28river. Only altitude limits are set, not
00:20:31lateral trajectories.
00:20:34With this 76-meter arch, a new obstacle comes.
00:20:50meter, which became, even before its construction, an eminently
00:20:53political
00:20:54symbol.
00:21:03immediately your program with Crédit Mutuel, to all those who make
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00:21:15Your program with Parmigiano
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00:30:07and it's the start for, it's the start of your world tour on France 24, it's
00:30:103 PM here in Paris, welcome, very large processions this Thursday
00:30:14in France, the CGT counts 250 demonstrators at midday,
00:30:18this Thursday could be the high point of this social autumn,
00:30:21the parades are underway in Paris, as you can see live, purchasing power
00:30:25remains the main subject, we will find Mary Shuster in a
00:30:28moment, how this anger resonates beyond our borders.
00:30:33in other European countries, Generation Z also made its voice heard in recent
00:30:36weeks, can we draw parallels, particularly with the situation in
00:30:40Italy, questions and answers with a journalist who knows Rome as well as Paris,
00:30:43Alberto Toscano, hello Alberto, hello, we will also come back to these
00:30:46mysterious bomb threats, they concern planes flying over
00:30:50Europe each time, they are very numerous since the beginning of the week, several
00:30:54aircraft were diverted this Thursday, that's
00:30:58the main news.