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00:00:14in France, the CGT counts 250 protesters at
00:00:18midday, this Thursday could be the
00:00:20that a marker, would you say, highlight of this social autumn, the parades are underway in
00:00:23Paris, you can see it live here, purchasing power remains the main
00:00:26subject, we'll find Mary Shuster in a moment, how does
00:00:30this anger resonate beyond our borders, in other European
00:00:33countries, Gen Z has also spoken out in recent weeks,
00:00:37can we draw parallels, particularly with the situation in Italy, Q&A
00:00:41with a journalist who knows Rome as well as Paris, Alberto Toscano, hello
00:00:44Alberto, hello, we'll also come back to these mysterious bomb alerts, they
00:00:48always concern planes flying over Europe, there have been many
00:00:52pose a problem that goes beyond since the beginning of the week, several planes were diverted this
00:00:56Thursday.
00:00:58exit, he had left the CLSAO That's the main news. And we'll also
00:01:01come back to the Youth Olympic Games in our Africa segment at 3:30 p.m.
00:01:04For the first time, a refugee team has formed and is participating in the
00:01:08competition, we met
00:01:26Streets and squares packed with people, it's a day of protest.
00:01:30Whether from the public or private sector, French workers are called to strike
00:01:33today, a very welcome relay for students and
00:01:36high school students who have been leading the movement almost since the start of the school year, you
00:01:40see here these
00:01:43meaning the sign of images of Paris, Marie Chuster, you are in the
00:01:46procession right in the heart of the action, a procession that must
00:01:49link Place de la République to Place de la Nation, you are on Boulevard
00:01:53Voltaire, there is determination on site and it's
00:01:56rather calm for now.
00:02:01stop yes indeed Julien, a rather good-natured atmosphere
00:02:05since the beginning of this demonstration, we see a lot
00:02:08of orchestras that create the atmosphere, who sing
00:02:11and everyone sings along at the top of their lungs in this procession,
00:02:15this mobilization is very well followed, in this procession we find a lot of private sector employees
00:02:19but also public sector employees, it's a call for a general
00:02:22strike also for the public sector, also for
00:02:24national education, and in fact I found in the procession, well,
00:02:28Marianne. Rossie, who is a history teacher
00:02:32at Voltaire high school in the 11th arrondissement in Paris,
00:02:35exactly, could you explain to me the
00:02:38importance of today's mobilization, why are you here today? Well,
00:02:42I'm here because first of all it's an inter-union and
00:02:45inter-professional call for employment, for
00:02:48salaries and in support of youth, because young people, high school students
00:02:52and university students, they have the same demands as us, quality public
00:02:56education, and we are also here for public services.
00:03:00Public hospitals, like education, need resources to
00:03:03prepare the future for our young people, so we are here, we are
00:03:06supporting them, but we also have
00:03:10problems of managing demands on salaries, which are also shared by our students since they say we need to be better
00:03:14paid, so we are here at the
00:03:17high school, we are in an inter- well, a complete inter-union,
00:03:21many of us are on strike today and this morning we were in front of the high school
00:03:25supporting the students and trying to act as a, let's say,
00:03:29buffer between the... law enforcement and our students
00:03:32who chose the blockade as a mode of mobilization, yes, because you told me
00:03:35that indeed this morning in front of your high school there were some scuffles
00:03:39between your students and the police, could you tell me what happened? Well,
00:03:43for several weeks
00:03:46France is going through as the it happens that the forces that it is tense between high school students and law enforcement, especially when high
00:03:50school students move forward to block the high school, there are exchanges
00:03:53around the trash cans, sometimes so there were also uh, we can
00:03:57say, there were police charges or students were beaten
00:04:01to the ground, today, a student was thrown to
00:04:04the ground by a plainclothes police officer, so there you go, it's often
00:04:08a kind of of, let's say,
00:04:11a bit of organized chaos by the police, I could say, and
00:04:15there you go, it's not escalations every time, so there you go, it's getting
00:04:18heated, but we're here to intervene, to
00:04:21avoid, there you go, to avoid detentions, to avoid
00:04:24obviously that our students are brutalized,
00:04:28are insulted, that... happens and are also
00:04:31searched, searched,
00:04:38A Rafale then a Mirage 2000 from escorted by air force searches that are quite surprising, as happened 2 days ago where some students were frisked, I would say it's
00:04:41it's, well, it's frisks on minors
00:04:44that, I would say, are of, well, of something
00:04:48that could be for, finally, for which they could be
00:04:52given on the origin of and the scale of prosecuted, thank you very much Marianne, so you see, if the
00:04:54atmosphere was quite tense this morning in front of this high school in the 11th
00:04:58arrondissement, it is nothing like that currently in the heart of this procession, in the heart
00:05:02of this demonstration boulevard,
00:05:05Boulevard Voltaire pardon in Paris, despite
00:05:08a large security deployment, you can probably
00:05:11hear them. The helicopters circling above this
00:05:15demonstration since this morning, thank you very much
00:05:18Marie Schluster, thanks also to Valentine Herba for the technical
00:05:22means, at the heart of the demands, salaries,
00:05:24purchasing power, for many French people, the feeling of no longer
00:05:28being able to live properly from their work remains, this is not just a
00:05:31feeling, poverty is at its highest level in 30 years in the
00:05:35country, see this report in Lyon by Étienne Prijan and Margerie
00:05:38Nadal.
00:05:42Ecologist high school student, social, on the placards, there's also
00:05:46a lot of talk about purchasing power, cost of living, this
00:05:49mother, for example, came to protest, receives RSA,
00:05:53inflation hit me hard, even kosher food has become a great
00:05:56luxury, and at some point it's very easy to increase
00:06:00product prices, but VAT also increases, I'm doing financial
00:06:04acrobatics, electricity will soon
00:06:07be reduced, it's...
00:06:11meals we've skipped with the kids,
00:06:14I've lost count, slogans to
00:06:18demand an increase in the minimum wage, retirement pensions. Laurent Jacquet
00:06:22is 61 years old, a former employee in collective catering, he
00:06:25earns 1600 euros net per month and pays 700 euros in rent. I
00:06:29manage, but it's not easy every day, every day and every month, because
00:06:32when you want to go out once or twice a month, you're
00:06:35quickly affected, so after 43 years, well, I know
00:06:39it was collective catering, but I find that...
00:06:43Limiting oneself to essentials is also the case for Ingrid Godin, who calls for
00:06:46more tax justice,
00:06:50200 euros per month, in my opinion, it's not enough compared to
00:06:53the involvement it represents, we need to increase salaries, yes, without reducing
00:06:57social contributions because that's still what ensures us a
00:07:00system that allows us to get healthcare and for retirees
00:07:04to have a decent income, which is not the case for everyone, what is the
00:07:07solution, rich, tax justice, the truly
00:07:11rich. According to the latest Ipsos barometer for Secours
00:07:14Populaire, 26% of French people, or a little over a quarter of the
00:07:18population, consider themselves to be in a precarious
00:07:20situation. So how are these demonstrations viewed abroad,
00:07:24can they create a snowball effect while young
00:07:27Europeans have also been protesting for several weeks? We're going to ask these questions with
00:07:31our guest Alberto Toscano, Italian journalist, it's been
00:07:3440 years that you've been following and covering
00:07:38the news in France, so you've known the big social
00:07:41events, the big strikes of '95
00:07:45under Juppé, the CPE under de Villepin, what else was
00:07:48there, the pension reform too, the pension
00:07:52reforms, do you feel that we are on another
00:07:55bad mood of the French or is it a more
00:07:59profound movement? It is undoubtedly
00:08:02a profound movement in the sense that
00:08:05uh we see the difficulties on the
00:08:09ground of the cost of living, so it's a...
00:08:12society that is questioning very real problems
00:08:16at the same time among these very
00:08:19real problems there are not the
00:08:22public finances, that is to say we act as if France
00:08:26on this front had its accounts in order and
00:08:30there, on the other hand, there are difficulties, but then you hear the protesters, they say
00:08:33well we need to tax the rich, it's not even, it's not even a debate, it's
00:08:37it's a slogan, behind the slogans we need
00:08:40policies and the problems. The current France cannot
00:08:44envisage coherent policies because it does not have a
00:08:48parliamentary majority and a country where the government does not have a
00:08:51majority has difficulty envisaging the future. As
00:08:55for the first part of your question,
00:08:58the difference compared to other social
00:09:02shocks I've seen in 40 years since I've been a correspondent in
00:09:06Paris and the difference in my opinion is also the fact that
00:09:09this time there is no reform. Yes, presumed
00:09:13reform that the government can withdraw and yes because
00:09:17we are in a particular context at the end of a mandate with a
00:09:21government that is minority, does that mean
00:09:24that the current government will not be able to offer anything to
00:09:27these demonstrations and that we are in for 5 or 6 months
00:09:31of demands, can Emmanuel Macron
00:09:34hold on? One would have to ask Emmanuel
00:09:37Macron if he wants to
00:09:40hold on, I think that at this point... he wants to hold on, he
00:09:44wants to see it through, but the
00:09:47coming months in France will be
00:09:50characterized by social tensions, it's
00:09:54a fairly easy prophecy to make, the
00:09:57problem is that we must hope that this social tension does not
00:10:00cross a red line that could
00:10:03effectively create a, that would
00:10:06end up in the pre-election atmosphere and create a
00:10:09situation of tension or difficult to
00:10:13control, so we must hope that everything remains,
00:10:16despite the current tension, that the red
00:10:20line is not crossed, what does the
00:10:23Italian experience show, which...
00:10:25has often sometimes been on the brink of economic
00:10:28collapse, have Italians
00:10:32resigned themselves to sacrifices? Italians are making
00:10:35sacrifices, the finance law that the Italian
00:10:38government will present to
00:10:41parliament, which will be approved with
00:10:44pain and which is extremely criticized by
00:10:47the left opposition, this finance law is a
00:10:51set of sacrifices and to
00:10:54say... one thing,
00:10:57the Italian budget would be
00:11:00in surplus if it did not have debt
00:11:04servicing, Italy has a
00:11:07primary surplus, a positive primary balance,
00:11:10with what sacrifices, the
00:11:12sacrifices,
00:11:18Italians are preparing to go beyond
00:11:2267 years old, it will be 67 and a
00:11:25quarter to have full
00:11:29retirement uh
00:11:31obviously there is a combination with the years of work,
00:11:35but the full retirement age will normally be 67 and a quarter and
00:11:38this reform, this pension reform, passed like
00:11:42a breeze in Italy, no, there were protests, protests,
00:11:46but public opinion
00:11:49uh following the work of
00:11:52persuasion and the work uh and the
00:11:55and the dangers that characterized the government of Mario Monti
00:11:59a few years ago, a technocratic government, a
00:12:03government that also benefited from left-wing
00:12:06support as well as right-wing support, so the
00:12:09government of Mario Monti painfully carried out this
00:12:13difficult pension reform and
00:12:16so Italians are making sacrifices, they will
00:12:20make them, they have a public debt
00:12:23uh which is... just under
00:12:26140% of GDP compared to
00:12:29around 120% in France, so in
00:12:33relation to GDP, the debt but at the cost of precarity,
00:12:37Italians must work more, they have a
00:12:40lower salary, precarity, I would say no in the sense that unemployment
00:12:43today in Italy is
00:12:46significantly more uh reduced than in
00:12:50France, uh lower than in
00:12:52France. So, there are salaries,
00:12:56there are sacrifices on salary, on
00:12:59taxation which has increased and
00:13:02on retirement, there are sacrifices, but
00:13:06in terms of work, of employment,
00:13:09today unemployment in Italy
00:13:12is lower than in France, we're going to look at these images in Italy, Alberto Toscano, on October
00:13:1617th, France experienced a day in hell with looting and
00:13:20violence, there you go, and then in Italy it was the
00:13:23same black day. Especially in Milan with
00:13:27destruction in especially in luxury
00:13:30stores, uh and Giorgia Meloni I believe sent
00:13:34in the military, yes, what does this day say
00:13:37in your opinion, can we draw a parallel with France? Ah, Italians copied
00:13:41France, in terms of demonstrations, Italians
00:13:45for centuries copied
00:13:47France, so once again, Italian public opinion
00:13:51was extremely sensitive to what was happening in France.
00:13:55There was the October 17th movement, these are mainly
00:13:58young people, students and demonstrations
00:14:02in Milan and there were
00:14:06tensions and behind these tensions there was
00:14:09an opportunity to reflect on phenomena that Italy
00:14:13had not reflected on until today, so
00:14:16uh the phenomenon of integration
00:14:20and the anger of immigrants
00:14:23of uh... 2nd generation, 2nd, 3rd
00:14:27generation, the children of immigrants who
00:14:30today rediscover anger, the suburbs,
00:14:34what was in France, the suburban revolt of 2005,
00:14:372006, what was in France, the incidents after
00:14:41the death of Nahel 3 years ago, this
00:14:44phenomenon of protest that results
00:14:47in a problem of failed integration
00:14:51or difficulties, there were starting points, there were starting points,
00:14:54the death of Nahel, the riots, it's because two young
00:14:58people were chased by the police and were electrocuted, it's not integration
00:15:02problems, but it was the
00:15:04catalyst, the death was the spark that
00:15:08revealed a deep-seated anger that exists in
00:15:12the French suburbs in 2005
00:15:16the revolt of late 2005 was
00:15:19such that it revealed not only a
00:15:22protest about a specific
00:15:26event, the specific events were the
00:15:30trigger for a protest that had much deeper
00:15:33roots, let's return to the situation in Italy, we sometimes
00:15:37talk about Gen Z, the Gaza generation in Italy,
00:15:40with strong support for Palestinians, exactly.
00:15:43Of course, they support the Palestinians, the Gazans, in the face of
00:15:46the atrocities of the Israeli army during this war which has
00:15:50escalated but which sometimes continues with
00:15:53bombardments. Is
00:15:57of youth, of the demands? What is a flag? It's a
00:16:00flag that once again allows
00:16:04the protest that is particular. Because
00:16:07as I said earlier, it's a protest that also
00:16:10reveals, not only, but also the anger
00:16:14of immigrants, of the children of immigrants,
00:16:17and the Palestinian flag has become the flag of these
00:16:21demonstrations and of this anger, so and in
00:16:25Italy, undoubtedly these demonstrations
00:16:30public order. In terms of the republic, there was what you
00:16:33said earlier, the choice of the George Melloni government to use...
00:16:37these 500 soldiers in the city of Milan, in
00:16:41France, we talked about that as a huge phenomenon, but
00:16:45in the French streets, for years there has been the
00:16:48Sentinel device that employs soldiers with
00:16:52functions that today, in the context of these
00:16:56demonstrations, are also public order functions, so I
00:16:59I believe we should not exaggerate this element of the
00:17:03military presence uh in
00:17:06Milan. But it is still
00:17:09once again a revealing fact
00:17:12that the defense of public order in Italy today is a
00:17:16difficult problem
00:17:18to achieve, difficult to solve
00:17:22because the scale of the demonstrations and of the anger has really become
00:17:26remarkable. Thank you Alberto Toscano for giving us your
00:17:29perspective, not Franco-Italian, but well,
00:17:33you know European exactly about these
00:17:36events, thank you again.
00:17:38This day is of course closely scrutinized by the French executive who could make a gesture regarding
00:17:42the minimum wage, its revaluation on January 1st could be moved up to December
00:17:461st and to that would be added a boost, we don't know the extent
00:17:49especially since the 2027 budget is still in limbo, deputies rejected the
00:17:53text yesterday Julien Ellion
00:17:56at the National Assembly, the government suffers a first setback for its
00:17:592027 budget, 0 for,
00:18:03458 against, the assembly did not adopt.
00:18:07Unanimously, after more than 2 weeks of debate, the deputies
00:18:11reject the revenue part of the 2027 budget project, this result
00:18:14is not a surprise for the executive, before the vote, the
00:18:18Minister of Public Accounts reiterated with determination his objectives, we
00:18:21will be mobilized with the entire government and under the authority of the
00:18:25Prime Minister, to give France what it needs, what the French
00:18:29need, what employees and business leaders need,
00:18:32that is economic stability, financial stability and therefore
00:18:36the reduction of the public deficit. The bill now continues its journey
00:18:39to the Senate, in the absence of a majority and compromise with the
00:18:43opposition, the government could have the budget adopted without
00:18:46a vote by the end of the month, for that, it has several
00:18:49tools. We have two safety nets that exist,
00:18:53Article 49/3 and Article 47
00:18:56on the possible application of ordinances, a priori, that's not
00:18:59our objective, but if we have to use the safety nets, we will
00:19:03obviously do so. Last year, the budget was adopted thanks to 49.
00:19:08The government had escaped several motions of no confidence.
00:19:12What is happening in the European sky? For 3 days, traffic has been disrupted due
00:19:15to false bomb alerts. 12, just this morning. In fact,
00:19:19several planes even had to be diverted. This is the case of an
00:19:22A320 Dublin-Rome that had to make an emergency landing in Normandy. Manon
00:19:26Bougo and Audi Longuvalle.
00:19:29The passengers on this plane were supposed to land in Rome. Here
00:19:33they are on the tarmac of the military base in Evreux.
00:19:36The aircraft was diverted this morning due to a
00:19:40bomb threat, we divert the plane to the nearest
00:19:44suitable airport, in this case it was the Evreux airport, which
00:19:48is a military airport, once the plane is on the ground, well, we
00:19:51call in bomb disposal operators. On
00:19:54board, there were 151 passengers and six
00:19:57crew members, it was almost 8 am this morning when their
00:20:01airliner, an A320 of the Aer Lingus company, took off from
00:20:04Dublin, heading for Rome, but after an hour of flight, the aircraft changed
00:20:08trajectory, it was then
00:20:11pilots.
00:20:15the Air and Space Force thus took off to intercept
00:20:19this civil aircraft in the Paris sector, then to
00:20:23escort it to Air Base 105 of Evreux-Fauville. For
00:20:26now, no information has been
00:20:29the alert. This is not the only plane that was targeted this morning by a bomb
00:20:33threat, there were at least 11 others and last Tuesday...
00:20:50For what purpose each time, the planes are
00:20:53searched and no suspicious device has been found
00:20:56so far.
00:20:58Consultations continue more than a week after the election in Israel. This morning, President
00:21:02Herzog received a delegation from the United Torah
00:21:06Judaism party, an ultra-orthodox formation that this time refuses
00:21:09to join Netanyahu. This is very bad news for the outgoing Prime Minister,
00:21:13who reiterates his accusations of foreign interference that would have
00:21:16favored the Arab parties. For his part, Gadier.
00:21:20already believes it, moreover, the main
00:21:23Arab list announces support for Gantz to form the next
00:24:13in danger, you who were a factory
00:24:16worker, son of a worker, socialist activist"?
00:24:20Communist, communist, anarchist afterwards, we'll get to that,
00:24:23Stéphanois, you who have spent your life crossing
00:24:27borders, singing about métissage, Bernard Lavillier, what
00:24:30is your view on the political and social crisis that
00:24:36presidential election approaches next year, it's a big
00:24:39logic, huh, it's a series of events with a kind of
00:24:42letting go, they are no longer even technocrats, they are the little marquises who
00:24:46took power, they took anyway the... the goal
00:24:50of a president in a competition
00:24:53that I mean, the goal in elections is
00:24:57still to win, so afterwards he can promise whatever he wants, the
00:25:00population doesn't give a damn about it in reality, for me, I think that
00:25:04knowing others of all colors has given me the
00:25:08advantage of being able to decode even
00:25:11my brothers and sisters here because what
00:25:14they lack is no need to reduce oneself to a
00:25:17community, it becomes extremely bizarre. To think
00:25:20all the same thing at the same time, I prefer
00:25:23absolute diversity, that is to say the possibility of
00:25:26arguing because we don't agree, but did you expect such a level of violence
00:25:30in French
00:25:31society? It goes
00:25:35with uh how can I explain it, the
00:25:39contempt or ignorance of letting conflicts or
00:25:43demands simply rot for
00:25:45months, he has a side of the end of the marquise too, it's a bit
00:25:49over for the... so I'm talking about the marquises who are in
00:25:53power for now, I made a song called beautiful
00:25:56days, beautiful days, I
00:25:59talk about them being well dressed, all out. of their
00:26:02boxes, but they have no idea how to lead anything
00:26:06whatsoever.
00:26:08B: The president is on edge, and despite
00:26:12everything, he lies, denies,
00:26:14brazenly,
00:26:17they get tired, they run away, they annoy us, they
00:26:21confine us,
00:26:25let's talk about poetry because politicians for now tend
00:26:29to exasperate me, what
00:26:31memory? What value do you keep of your work in the
00:26:34factory, the value of direct
00:26:38labor, the fact of being a good worker, that
00:26:41followed me all the time, I used it later when traveling,
00:26:45I sometimes continued to work as a turner in foreign countries,
00:26:49so I think that the very
00:26:51idea of starting to work at 16 in a
00:26:55factory, you see, retirement for me
00:26:58is not for right away for now, but in any case I
00:27:02think that gives a certain pride,
00:27:05on the other hand, the army was out of the question, no, no, no, oh, surely
00:27:09not, and no, no, no,
00:27:12no, no, no, I didn't want to be in the army because no
00:27:16god, no master, no foreman, so there you go, I was like that at the time, and I
00:27:20still am a bit, you still have no god, no master,
00:27:23isn't that a bit utopian today, this
00:27:26motto, well I mean, until now, no one
00:27:29has presented me with God, so if you want, I should have
00:27:32believed, I being independent, I have
00:27:36managed to live up to 80 years without passing through
00:27:39God, and maybe I will die in a few
00:27:42years without passing through God, I will see afterwards no
00:27:46doubt, but I won't be able to tell you, Bernard
00:27:50Lavillier on France 24, a short break in our world tour, we'll meet again in 2 minutes for the
00:27:53Africa
00:27:54meeting.
00:28:04I was told not long ago that I could do the JOG, the Gio
00:28:08is crazy, we are of course aiming for a medal, we try
00:28:12to go for the medals, if possible the gold medal, I am
00:28:14capable,
00:28:17I hope the work will pay off, I do it every day, you always have
00:28:20to repeat, repeat, three training sessions per week until you
00:28:24master it thoroughly,
00:28:26she is a competitor, she has a killer look, she is a real
00:28:30lion, ready to devour everything in front of her, I didn't think I would do
00:28:34people one day, it's true that it seems crazy, the Youth Olympic Games in
00:28:38Dakar on France 24 and all our social networks.
00:30:2624 hours after the municipal elections, the big meeting before the general
00:30:29elections of 2029, first information. The
00:30:32participation, more than one in two voters turned out. We find
00:30:36Caroline Dumé in one of the results centers in
00:30:39Cape Town.
00:30:43The only definitive figure we have for now is that of participation.
00:30:4654.5% of the votes, a better figure than in
00:30:502021. At this stage, with less than
00:30:54half of the ballots counted, the ANC remains the largest party in the
00:30:57country with more than 32%.