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00:00:00youth in Dakar on France 24 and all our social
00:00:03networks,
00:00:10good evening everyone, 10:30 PM here in
00:00:13massacres against non-Arab Paris, welcome to the news 360 zoom on France 24, we
00:00:16will focus tonight on the new social mobilization this
00:00:19Thursday in France, the most important of this autumn, there were
00:00:23nearly 600,000 according to the Ministry of Interior, more than 1.5 million
00:00:27according to the CGT, employees, civil servants. students, high school students or
00:00:31retirees were in the streets, all demanding
00:00:34more purchasing power, listen to these few
00:00:37protesters,
00:00:40well, we're struggling more and more, and yet my husband works at
00:00:43the hospital and I work at the university and it's hard to make
00:00:47ends meet, we have to make choices about our leisure, we have to make
00:00:51choices about our vacations, so there you go for all these
00:00:54to exclude the country from reasons and also because I support high school students in their demands and
00:00:58and I come in support of... of the mobilization for several weeks
00:01:02already, listen, it shows that there is a big anger in this country, there is a
00:01:05complementarity of angers, we are trying to make them converge, we all
00:01:09have the same objective, that is to say to fight against the high cost of living and to ensure that workers
00:01:13can live decently from their salary, so it's a good
00:01:15thing that the more we are, the better it will be, but I think it's great
00:01:19that there is really
00:01:22a solidarity between the yellow vests, the
00:01:25young people, the CGT, the workers,
00:01:28the teachers, everyone. uh it's really
00:01:31great and especially that we provide support to young people, especially high school students,
00:01:35to show them that they are not alone in their struggle, there you go,
00:01:38I feel a malaise in the educational system for
00:01:41years, we don't feel heard uh and also I
00:01:45am a mother uh so as a citizen I felt
00:01:49it my duty to be there to support my children who are high school
00:01:52and university students and also to
00:01:54guest tonight in this 360 support my colleagues who sometimes do not have the possibility to go on strike
00:01:58because the financial conditions are not met to
00:02:03standoff over the conflict in eastern stop working for a day, so we also support those with low salaries,
00:02:07and we are with Renault Foucard, economist and associate professor at Lancaster
00:02:11University, Renault Foucard, good evening, thank you very much for being with us on France 24,
00:02:15there were people this Thursday in the streets of France, this follows
00:02:18three consecutive Saturdays of mobilization against the high
00:02:22cost of living, is this new day a
00:02:25success, are we witnessing the beginning of a convergence of
00:02:28struggles? Well, there are a lot of people in the streets, it's
00:02:32clearly a success on the part of the unions mainly who are
00:02:35really the lifeblood of this organization, a convergence of struggles maybe but it's a
00:02:39convergence of struggles against almost
00:02:42no one since we saw yesterday the vote on
00:02:46the budget, the first vote on the revenue part was rejected unanimously,
00:02:50data on the population. The cost of meaning that all parties, majority, opposition,
00:02:53centrist, far left, far right are all in agreement that they do not agree with the
00:02:57current budget revenue project, the people in the streets
00:03:00are asking for many things, they are all legitimate in their own way, the
00:03:04high school students, the fight of the high school students is very clear, education lacks
00:03:07budget, the minimum wage clearly, workers have seen that their salary has hardly
00:03:11increased in real terms for several years now, and
00:03:14at the same time there is this basic problem which is today that of France which is that
00:03:18all these people are legitimately in the streets but they are fighting for the crumbs of
00:03:22what remains of spending once we have removed pension spending which
00:03:26is for now still 25 % of the state budget.
00:03:30That's it today, uh the deficit uh of France is extremely
00:03:34important, uh the government's room for maneuver is
00:03:37quite limited to respond to these
00:03:40protesters?
00:03:42In my opinion, there is no room for maneuver today, meaning that Sébastien Lecornu can
00:03:46gather people, he can say "I will meet with the unions, I will talk to them" but
00:03:49in the end he must secure a majority on a budget, so at
00:03:54behind the headlines the real issues of the base the budget was supposed to be a budget to limit the deficit, right? So it was
00:03:56today it was estimated Lecornu's objective was below
00:04:005% of GDP, now after all the amendments that
00:04:04were voted on and then finally rejected, we were approaching 6%, meaning that no one
00:04:08seems to agree to make a consensus on a reduction in
00:04:11spending and so Lecornu not having a majority, it's a bit the original
00:04:14sin of this government and Emmanuel Macron after the last election, meaning that they
00:04:18did everything as if there was a government with a majority,
00:04:21except that no one managed to build coalitions and again the only
00:04:25coalition there was yesterday was a coalition to say that everyone rejects
00:04:29all current proposals. In any case, the social anger is clearly there,
00:04:33the government is trying to respond to it, Sébastien Lecornu
00:04:36announced a social conference on Monday in the presence
00:04:40of unions and employers, what can concretely
00:04:44come out of it, what could calm this anger
00:04:46today?
00:04:49Well, in my opinion, there are few things that can really calm this anger in the long term
00:04:52because the problem is that we are 6 months away from a presidential election and it's
00:04:56as if no one cared, meaning that a priori today,
00:05:00the possibility of changing the regime, of changing political
00:05:03and economic orientation, it's there, it's in the ballot box, but the fact that all this
00:05:07anger is so immense, visible in the streets, is also a symbol that there's
00:05:11not many people who believe in salvation from politicians,
00:05:15on the other hand, what Lecornu will do is something more standard, meaning meetings
00:05:18between employers and unions, and there is clearly a
00:05:22demand for a revaluation of the minimum wage, so the French minimum wage, is it too high, is
00:05:26it too low? It is relatively within the European norm, so
00:05:30there is potentially room for maneuver at this level, we know the advantages and
00:05:34disadvantages, increasing the minimum wage is not very good for unemployment, but it increases the
00:05:37purchasing power of the lowest earners, it is also potentially difficult
00:05:41in terms of salary progression, meaning that if you increase the minimum wage it compresses salaries a bit,
00:05:45which is what happened in the United Kingdom with very numerous increases
00:05:49in the minimum wage in recent years, but at the same time these are clear demands to which there can be a precise
00:05:52answer, while the rest are really arbitrations that have
00:05:56not been made. There you go, the CFDT is demanding €100
00:05:59net more for the minimum wage.
00:06:03Why in France since 2012 has no government
00:06:06decided on such an increase?
00:06:10Well, clearly at the base there was the goal. Since François Hollande, it's
00:06:13been about reversing the unemployment curve, and so how did
00:06:17France, like most European countries, reverse the unemployment
00:06:21curve with considerable success at the beginning? It's not
00:06:24particularly a miracle recipe; it's largely by doing what we call
00:06:27flexibility, meaning we accept that people receive lower wages or less
00:06:31secure contracts, so that's the
00:06:35debate we need to have at such a time: to what extent do we want to have
00:06:39people who are well paid at the lowest wages at the risk of potentially
00:06:42more unemployment, especially in difficult situations like now, or do we
00:06:46consider that having low unemployment is the basic objective, even if it
00:06:50implies a bit more precariousness or more flexible jobs? Again, this is a
00:06:54classic debate in which unions, employers,
00:06:57everyone can discuss in an adult manner, and that, of course, will be
00:07:00discussed with the government from Monday, we imagine. You
00:07:04mentioned it, we are in the middle of a presidential campaign, the first round
00:07:07will be in 6 months, and by the way, in the processions this Thursday, there were
00:07:11several candidates. On the left, notably Raphael Glucksmann
00:07:15and Marine Tondelier, there was also obviously Jean-Luc Mélenchon, we're going to
00:07:18listen to Raphaël Glucksmann and Marine
00:07:21Tondelier. We are the democratic
00:07:25rupture, the realistic rupture, the rupture that does not fracture
00:07:28the country, we are going to do it by deepening democracy, by trying what
00:07:32has not been done in France, that is social democracy, social
00:07:35dialogue, making sure that French men and women speak to each other again, we are in a
00:07:39country that is starting to hate itself and it needs to be healed. and
00:07:42repaired, for that, it starts with justice and by responding to the demands
00:07:46of workers, all the demands of high school students have our support
00:07:50as well as those of civil servants, workers, unemployed, precarious,
00:07:54environmentalists, feminists, we are here for all these demands and the
00:07:58government that preferred to send law enforcement instead of social responses to
00:08:02the movement, well, uh it will cost a little more now because there are
00:08:05so many people in the streets that it's not just by spreading on parcours sup and on school
00:08:09buildings that we will get everyone home. So their
00:08:12wait-and-see attitude, well, it's like for climate inaction, inaction in terms of social dialogue also
00:08:16costs more in the end.
00:08:19Renaud Foucard, I come back to this question of the
00:08:22deficit which is extremely important, France which cannot agree
00:08:26on a budget, if the left
00:08:29comes to power in 6 months, will it be able
00:08:32to implement its program and respond to this social
00:08:36distress that we see today in the streets?
00:08:39Well, there is one question and only one question that will determine
00:08:43the answer, it's pensions, that is to say that
00:08:46today in France, any party that wants to be in government and be
00:08:50elected, Macron tried it in his first term, cannot
00:08:54tackle the highest pensions in France, Barnier
00:08:57had to resign for that, Bayrou had to resign for that, all the people who
00:09:01seriously try to make a budget that gives room for maneuver for
00:09:04education, that gives room for maneuver, for transport, for hospitals, it's a
00:09:08budget that must tackle the highest pensions, so the people in the streets, the workers.
00:09:12the civil servants, they have seen their salaries frozen for several years now,
00:09:16meaning that in real terms, their purchasing power has decreased, while
00:09:20retirement pensions have continued to increase with inflation, Emmanuel Macron
00:09:23had tried to lower the CSG, that didn't work either, any attempt
00:09:27hits a wall and so will the left have the possibility to invest in
00:09:31the future exclusively if at some point it manages to find a
00:09:35way to really address the problem without scaring
00:09:38people, meaning that as soon as we attack as soon as we talk about retirement pensions everyone...
00:09:42thinks, and I think rightly so, of the most precarious retirees, the goal
00:09:45must certainly not be to put people in precariousness, but
00:09:49today, the part of the population that is on average the most privileged, who has the highest
00:09:53purchasing power, who saves the most, are retirees, there are
00:09:57many wealthy retirees who today are burdening the budget, all
00:10:00the expenses as a percentage of GDP, whether education or transport, they
00:10:04have decreased in recent years simply because all the money went to
00:10:07pensions, retirees who were also in the
00:10:10streets this Thursday, we saw
00:10:14them in the processions, 6 months before this presidential election in France, the
00:10:17social situation is extremely
00:10:20tense, could it get even more tense in the
00:10:23coming weeks and who would benefit, the extremes once
00:10:27again, I'm thinking of the far right and the far
00:10:30left, La France Insoumise and the Rassemblement
00:10:32National? For now, by the way, only La France
00:10:36Insoumise and the Rassemblement National are in the presidential campaign, the others are
00:10:40almost just making up the numbers, I mean Édouard Philippe who was a priori the
00:10:44favorite to face Marine Le Pen, he has polls now where he is below
00:10:4710%. So today we have Jean-Luc Mélenchon,
00:10:51Marine Le Pen and a part of the center, center-left.
00:10:55right who are saying "we need to agree, we need to find a way to organize either a primary
00:10:59or at least have a candidate who can get at least two digits in
00:11:02the presidential election" or another part of the right and we heard
00:11:05echoes of Nicolas Sarkozy in recent days who is tempted to
00:11:09directly defect and show his support for Marine Le Pen. The problem is that
00:11:13Marine Le Pen is at 35% in a poll, meaning that we are
00:11:17talking about a second round in which someone would start with a very, very
00:11:20big lead, so the social anger will continue because
00:11:24simply there is no budget response possible without some form of
00:11:27coalition and no one wants to ally with the center with Emmanuel Macron
00:11:31today and the social anger will continue in part after the
00:11:35presidential election because either it will be Marine Le Pen who is still an extremely
00:11:38divisive figure, it will be very difficult in terms of simply if you are an
00:11:42immigrant there will be directly a referendum on
00:11:45wearing the hijab, the headscarf in the street, I mean these are very deep things and on Jean-Luc
00:11:49Mélenchon's side who promises the return of retirement at 60 and increases in
00:11:52all spending, there will immediately be a financial market attack on French debt,
00:11:56so in any case, it's an extremely difficult situation
00:11:59today and we are waiting in a certain way for some to
00:12:03be a little more concrete on how they will really manage the
00:12:06deficits and debt of France the day after the election because the
00:12:10extremes, as you say, both right and left, are a priori well on their way to winning this
00:12:14election. Thank you very much Renaud Foucard, thank you for being our
00:12:19news zoom dedicated to this social mobilization
00:12:23in France. This is the Africa news
00:12:27presented by Mirieme Amélal, we will meet again at
00:12:3011 PM Paris time for a new news report, the 360 news continues,
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00:14:04It's time for the Africa news, welcome to France 24, on the headlines tonight, the electoral
00:14:08setback looming for the ANC in South Africa, the day
00:14:11after the municipal elections which serve as a test for the ruling party
00:14:15since the end of apartheid, the ANC could record
00:14:19a new electoral decline against a backdrop of public service crisis
00:14:23and massive unemployment. We will be in Cape Town in this
00:14:26news report. The general population census in the Democratic
00:14:29Republic of Congo, it is entering its practical
00:14:33phase, the cost of the operation is estimated at 192 million
00:14:36dollars. Uh the last one, the last one dates back to
00:14:401995. Our correspondent followed the
00:14:43census agents. Report to follow. And then uh the
00:14:47Youth Olympic Games in Dakar. Tonight we're talking about an
00:14:51Olympic team, the refugee team. It's taking part in the
00:14:55competition for the first time, our correspondent will
00:14:58paint a portrait of six young people, that will be in a few
00:15:01moments.
00:15:06The municipal elections in South Africa, the ANC could well record the
00:15:10worst score in its history, this is what the figures indicate after the
00:15:13counting of half the votes. The final results should be
00:15:17announced by Sunday. The correspondent in Cape Town,
00:15:20Caroline.
00:15:24The only definitive figure we have for now is that of participation,
00:15:2754.5% of the votes, a better figure than in
00:15:312021, at this stage with less than half
00:15:34of the ballots counted, the ANC remains the leading party
00:15:38in the country with over 32 % of the votes and behind that,
00:15:42it's the main opposition party, the Democratic Alliance, around
00:15:4627, 28% of the votes. The Democratic Alliance has
00:15:50already claimed victory, it would win the
00:15:53city of Cape Town with 58 % of the votes and the Democratic
00:15:56Alliance also claims to be leading in
00:16:00Johannesburg, so what's interesting is that we have these two
00:16:03big parties and then all the others far behind, right?
00:16:07The MK of former President Jacob or the EFF of Julius
00:16:11Malema far behind, which would tend to
00:16:14suggest that people voted strategically, either ANC
00:16:18or the main opposition party, but for now it's difficult to
00:16:22make any analysis.
00:16:25And South Africa is in the sights of the United States, Washington announced just
00:16:29before the midterms, wanting
00:16:32the Africa-United States trade agreement, AGOA, it's an
00:16:35agreement that allows more than
00:16:3830 African countries to export their
00:16:41products to the United States without customs duties, Rwanda is
00:16:45also concerned, for Kigali, this decision comes amidst
00:16:49tensions with Washington over the war in the
00:16:52east of the Democratic Republic of Congo. Details with Aurora
00:16:56Bailou.
00:16:58New escalation in relations between Washington, Kigali and
00:17:01Pretoria. On Monday, the United States announced its intention to exclude
00:17:05Rwanda and South Africa from... AGOA, which is the
00:17:09heart of trade between this country and Africa for 25 years, a
00:17:13duty-free system that covers textiles as well as
00:17:16cars, handicrafts or even yams. The measure is due to
00:17:20take effect on January 1, 2027, and to justify its
00:17:24decision concerning Rwanda, Washington points to several
00:17:27problems: obstacles to American trade and investment,
00:17:30restrictions on political pluralism and human
00:17:33rights violations, but this decision
00:17:37comes amidst a diplomatic
00:17:41DRC, Washington which accuses Kigali of militarily supporting
00:17:45the M23 rebel movement has already sanctioned last week the
00:17:49Rwandan Ministry of Defense. The economic stake for
00:17:52Rwanda remains limited, however. The United States imported
00:17:55approximately 43 million dollars worth of Rwandan goods in
00:17:592025, mainly coffee, tea
00:18:02and minerals. South Africa is much more exposed.
00:18:06The primary beneficiary of AGOA, it exported nearly
00:18:091.7 billion dollars worth of goods under this regime in
00:18:132025.
00:18:15And in the Democratic Republic of Congo, the general population census
00:18:19is entering its practical phase, thousands of cartographer
00:18:22agents are crisscrossing the streets of the capital to collect
00:18:28the operation is 192 million dollars. The last
00:18:31census dates back to 1984. Watch
00:18:34this report by our correspondent Aurélie Bazarakibangu.
00:19:04It all depends on accessibility. Agents must first be accepted by
00:19:08residents who are not always aware
00:19:12that operations have begun.
00:19:13lancées,
00:19:16Inside homes, agents question household heads
00:19:19about the composition of their household. Ma'am, how many
00:19:23people do you have here at your place? Two
00:19:26people, there are only two of you?
00:19:29Until now, Congolese demographics have relied on
00:19:32estimates, Kinshasa would have nearly
00:19:3520 million inhabitants. This census also aims to
00:19:39understand the living conditions of the population and
00:19:41adapt public policies to
00:19:45real needs, in the Nedolo district, residents
00:19:48hope for concrete changes, there is always hope that
00:19:52it will be able to accelerate better with their
00:19:56perhaps work and everything, there are electricity
00:19:59problems, there are water problems and
00:20:01everything, both problems are what
00:20:04puts us a little bit in. in
00:20:08somewhat critical states and everything there you go. After
00:20:11Kinshasa, operations must extend to the provinces. The
00:20:14first results are expected by the end of
00:20:182027.
00:20:21We now come to the war in Sudan and its consequences for
00:20:24certain populations. As you know, in Darfur, the Rapid Support
00:20:28Forces, mainly composed of Sudanese Arabs,
00:20:31regularly massacre civilians of non-Arab ethnicity, so
00:20:34Arab civilians are victims of...
00:20:37reprisals and flee to neighboring Chad, a report by Arol
00:20:40Girard
00:20:43at the Aboudam refugee camp, Asias
00:20:45Anuusibashir is one of the so-called sensitive profiles, she is
00:20:49a Sudanese Arab and like all members of her ethnicity,
00:20:53in the eyes of other refugees, she is close to the Rapid
00:20:56Support Forces, who are also mostly Arab, these
00:21:00paramilitaries are accused of
00:21:03communities in Sudan for years, we who have
00:21:06this light skin, who are Arabs, we are not accepted
00:21:10elsewhere, if they had sent us to another refugee
00:21:13camp, I think that even before getting out of the car, we would have
00:21:16been greeted with knives, and the person who would have driven us...
00:21:20If I go to the neighboring department of Hajradid, I won't be able
00:21:23to last a single year. In addition to threats, Asia has been refused
00:21:27jobs and even permission to cross
00:21:30certain villages, solely because of her ethnic
00:21:33origin. To avoid this confusion between
00:21:37Arab refugees and Arab rebels from the RSF. It is a traditional
00:21:41chief from another community who represents the
00:21:44Aboudam camp. We are trying to organize a certain
00:21:47reconciliation, we think we need to promote living together. Since this camp
00:21:50is part of the Abugudam community, we consider that it
00:21:53is an integral part of the region, we are still trying to improve understanding
00:21:57between this refugee community and the inhabitants of the
00:22:00region. Another concern is the Aboudam
00:22:04camp, which hosts fewer than 100 people and receives less regular
00:22:07humanitarian aid than most sites hosting Sudanese refugees
00:22:11in Chad, the UNHCR administers the camp, but like
00:22:15the rest of the United Nations agencies, its budget has sharply decreased in recent
00:22:18years. and we cannot
00:22:22set up uh structures
00:22:24of a certain scale
00:22:28uh for a population that is
00:22:32perhaps 100, maximum 1000 people, whereas we
00:22:36have needs in sites of 25, 30,000
00:22:39people, so that's why they are encouraged to use the
00:22:42infrastructures of the host community in
00:22:46Abugudam after more than 3 years of war in Sudan and... This
00:22:50is a first in the history of the Youth Olympic
00:22:54Games, an Olympic refugee
00:22:55team
00:22:59is taking part in the competition, six young people, six different journeys and
00:23:01one
00:23:07same pride, that of wearing the colors of the Olympic refugee
00:23:11team and taking their place among the best young
00:23:14athletes in the world, our correspondent Aminatudialou met
00:23:18them at the Holan village.
00:23:22They are from the Republic Democratic Republic of Congo, Burundi and
00:23:26South Sudan. Today, they live in Kenya and Uganda
00:23:30where they have found refuge. Three of them come notably from
00:23:33the Kakuma refugee camp in Kenya, one of the largest
00:23:37refugee centers in the world. Three girls and
00:23:40three boys aged 15 to 17, who thus carry
00:23:44the Olympic dream together. Four are
00:23:47engaged in athletics and judo and another in
00:23:50taekwondo, for some, sports practice is
00:23:53still recent, they have only been training for a short time and do not always have
00:23:57all the necessary equipment, and for these young
00:24:00athletes, the YOG are much more than a competition, it is
00:24:04a life experience whose full significance
00:24:07they fully grasp.
00:24:10I have been training for a year now waiting for these
00:24:13games, so I am
00:24:15ready. I am really.
00:24:50it's just a name, a
00:24:51label,
00:24:55it represents hope, it shows that they are capable of doing something other
00:24:59than being considered vulnerable people, it also shows that they
00:25:03have a future, that they can accomplish
00:25:07enormous hope, especially because we have six athletes
00:25:10here, many other young athletes who have stayed in their countries,
00:25:14follow us, they ask us when will you
00:25:17play, we are impatient, What's next,
00:25:21when will the next elections take place? It has generated a lot
00:25:24of enthusiasm.
00:25:27For now, the representative in judo entered the competition without
00:25:30managing to win two medals, but the opportunities to
00:25:33shine are still numerous, four athletes are particularly highly
00:25:37anticipated on the track with the 200 and 800
00:25:41m events for the boys.
00:25:44That's it, we wish them good luck, this is the end of the Africa news, thanks to the teams in
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00:30:17for a little over an hour on France 24, at the top of the news tonight
00:30:21in Israel, President Isaac Herzog
00:30:24will announce on Sunday who will be tasked with forming the next
00:30:28government, after the legislative elections on October 27 last
00:30:31week. The leader of the anti-Netanyahu coalition Gadia
00:30:35Ezenkot, we will see, is in a good
00:30:37position to replace the current prime minister at the head of the
00:30:41government, we will go to Jerusalem to find Stéphane Amard from the
00:30:45beginning of this news report. Complicated day in the European
00:30:48sky, about twenty flights were disrupted by
00:30:52false bomb threats, a flight that was supposed to go to Rome
00:30:56from Dublin had to be diverted to a military base.
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