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00:00:00behind the latest miscellaneous item to
00:00:01reform, we didn't want a pension propose a new law when he already has a whole legislative arsenal that
00:00:05allows him to solve the problem if it is well applied and if he has courts that can
00:00:09work correctly, but on the essential, no, the
00:00:13question, for example, of the ecological transition, of the environment, and it is important, especially
00:00:16for the younger generations, that's true, but that came from Brussels and it came
00:00:20with governments that agreed, we agree, it was not requested by the streets, but
00:00:24it's an example, it was supported by the, should there be, for example,
00:00:28would you like to have a representation
00:00:32There was a minister, there was a French
00:00:51of citizens' conventions, which are very interesting in their results, but
00:00:54afterwards, it has to be used politically, we are asking for the
00:00:58right to vote at 16. because also, if there are mobilizations like this, of licensing and
00:01:02delicacies, it's because in fact we can't go through elsewhere and then I don't
00:01:06agree with you, no, in recent years, the demands have not necessarily been
00:01:10heard at all in France, in any case, by the executive, by the power in
00:01:14place, and even on schools, it's not very new on schools,
00:01:18listen, it hasn't invented any demands this year, it's been 10, 10 years, even
00:01:22more that we've been carrying them, the hiring of teachers, the renovation of
00:01:25buildings, it's very old, we're not heard on that, and in fact, on many other
00:01:29questions. in national education, it keeps increasing year after year, the
00:01:33problem,
00:01:36sorry, let me finish, because let me finish, because I let you
00:01:39speak, well, you know, for example, that the average class sizes have
00:01:43popularity, he has no increased, have increased since 2010, meaning we went from 27 to
00:01:4630.5 students per class, the reason is interesting to
00:01:50know why, demographically too, no, but it's also because
00:01:54there are more and more agents in the ranks of education, of national
00:01:57education, these are the figures from the Court of Auditors, look at the figures. but there are fewer and fewer
00:02:01teachers in front of students because there are a lot of people on sick leave because it has become a
00:02:04profession that is very poorly paid, and when some of your
00:02:08comrades burn their teachers' cars or brutalize them, well, you shouldn't be surprised that
00:02:12in some neighborhoods it's hard to recruit, and yes, but that's also because
00:02:16yes, yes, I will answer because this is very
00:02:19serious, in fact, if you want to
00:02:22in Ile-de-France, the associate an entire demand that is, excuse me, but if
00:02:24today the confusion, you are a bit confused,
00:02:28excuse me,
00:02:34first, when you answer someone, it's about being able to restate the argument of their thought,
00:02:38and that requires the act of
00:02:40ask ourselves the question of restating the person's thought in front of you before criticizing it. I assure you that it is an
00:02:43extremely interesting intellectual exercise, so let me answer,
00:02:46maybe then I will have time to show you that I understood your
00:02:49thought, of course, so excuse me, but if today there is a
00:02:53crisis in the sector, there is a crisis in the profession for teachers,
00:02:57it's not because sometimes, and moreover, it's completely reprehensible,
00:03:00some of their cars are burned or
00:03:04requires honesty, they are attacked by students, it's
00:03:04no longer so in 1973, why? Because there had been ultra-minority. It's useless to bring
00:03:05commitment, that up in a global debate by saying that's
00:03:06high standards, and why there's a crisis in the profession. The crisis in the profession
00:03:10is because their purchasing power has decreased
00:03:12the National Assembly or a since 1980, it went from, no, no, but it went from 2.4 times the
00:03:15minimum wage, the starting salary in teaching, in education, it went from
00:03:192.4 times the minimum wage to 1.2, so there's also that question there. I completely
00:03:23agree on the remuneration, the remuneration of teachers, which comes back to
00:03:27symbolic remuneration and respect for people, because it's not like it
00:03:30doesn't exist, it has become extremely difficult to be a
00:03:33teacher in a certain number of neighborhoods, including with bourgeois
00:03:36parents, yes, except that you know, when in those neighborhoods they are
00:03:3936, 37 per class, it's obviously more complicated afterwards to have a class that holds up than when they
00:03:43are 28 or when they are 24, which is why
00:03:46I was telling you, let's ask ourselves the question of why it is so
00:03:49difficult to have teachers in difficult areas, because there are not enough
00:03:52teachers, yes, but so that is not an
00:03:55answer, Bruno Cotres, go ahead, there is a problem of
00:03:59remuneration
00:04:01of teachers, I can testify, even from higher education as well,
00:04:05uh, the starting salaries of
00:04:08France, the latest figures from teachers,
00:04:11I remind you anyway that the starting salaries of university teachers or
00:04:15researchers are for seniors
00:04:182500, 2600 euros gross for people who have
00:04:22done bac + 10 and so on. So a real problem of
00:04:24remuneration that does not come from Emmanuel
00:04:28Macron, it was there before. obviously it's a choice that France made at some
00:04:32point to poorly pay those who transmit knowledge.
00:04:35Uh, you say it's a choice France made at some point and it has
00:04:39remained. I think there are other European countries that pay their
00:04:42teachers better. So there are European countries that
00:04:46give other types of status to teachers, there's a whole other problem,
00:04:49but it's certain that there's a crisis of vocation and the reasons for the crises of
00:04:53vocation are still the difficulty of the job and its
00:04:56remuneration, it's also about remuneration because when I was telling you...
00:05:00that we gave in to the demands of the streets, how is the national education
00:05:03budget structured? We had been saying for
00:05:06hectares of years on Atlantico that we were actually lying about the
00:05:09distribution because we didn't want to admit that a third of the education budget was going to
00:05:13finance pensions, that there were overcontributions from the employer state. So teachers are
00:05:16absolutely not responsible, but when you have French people mobilizing because they
00:05:20refuse the demographic reality and who refuse the reality of a pension
00:05:24reform, you cannot then come crying about the fact that a
00:05:27good third of the national education budget is devoted not precisely to
00:05:31high school students, not precisely to paying teachers who deserve it in
00:05:35view of the difficulty of their tasks, but to paying the past because
00:05:39that is precisely because we gave in to the demands of the streets.
00:05:45education minister who spoke of "trimming the fat" if I remember
00:05:48correctly, oh yes, and that dates back,
00:05:51it dates back, it was well trimmed last year, maybe there are also
00:05:54teachers missing because the budget
00:05:5625-26 positions
00:05:59for teachers
00:06:02uh of students, but then we put classes like in Portugal, it's
00:06:06the same, we put classes with 27, 30, 35
00:06:09students and 32 per class. their
00:06:12parents also protest because of, so the government has proposed measures nonetheless,
00:06:16so precisely 28 students in second grade from 2027, that's part of the
00:06:20government's answer, we're going to say it anyway, we don't know how they do it, but anyway,
00:06:24in 2027 in half of the less privileged high schools, then in 2028 in all
00:06:27high schools, 28 students for second grade, 500 additional teaching positions in
00:06:312027, 500 additional positions for psychologists, nurses,
00:06:34social workers, 4 billion euros in preferential rate loans
00:06:38to help regions renovate high schools, and 15,000 additional
00:06:42places in higher education. So obviously that doesn't
00:06:45exactly meet the demands of high school students, but well, it's
00:06:49a gesture, in fact, the government will receive the trade
00:06:53union organizations and employer organizations on Monday, so is that
00:06:56what you and you also feel, that there is still
00:07:00some listening, that things are moving forward? It's a victory, in any case, we see
00:07:04that we can be heard when we go out into the streets, and in fact, that's a bit of an exception in
00:07:07Macron's reality. Now, the measures that were announced at the end of
00:07:10October are mostly just for show, and don't really constitute
00:07:14progress. The 15,000 places are not enough, because, and in fact, they are
00:07:17concentrated in university institutes of technology (IUTs) and
00:07:20advanced technician's certificates (BTSs), which is very good, that there is a strengthening of these sectors, but not
00:07:24in general universities, which today therefore cannot accommodate the number of
00:07:27high school graduates that you want. We are asking for 25,000 places,
00:07:31because in fact, once you have a diploma, what do you do with it? What do you do
00:07:35with it? But in fact, the question is a student with a baccalaureate, we consider that a
00:07:39student with a baccalaureate should be able to continue the studies they want in higher
00:07:43education, and if possible in local universities, once they have their diploma, because the problem,
00:07:46as you will have noticed like me, is that we have overproduced elites, and that
00:07:50precisely there are no outlets in front, that we don't
00:07:53adaptation
00:07:56to the needs of society in front. I'm just going to answer on all of them, if you want, if
00:08:00you can, on all of the demands, there you go,
00:08:03so it's a societal project that we have, in any case, that everyone can emancipate
00:08:07themselves through knowledge by going to university.
00:08:11Now, on the other question, on the renovation of buildings, which was really one of
00:08:15our flagship measures, in fact, this preferential rate loan from the Caisse des Dépôts to the
00:08:18regions is not relevant, inasmuch as many
00:08:22regional councils already won't have the means to contract this loan because
00:08:25they won't have the means to repay it. We have already had discussions with regional councils who tell
00:08:29us that, in fact, this loan is useless. We could have very well
00:08:33borrowed ourselves to do it, we need subsidies,
00:08:37uh, if you want to finance directly so that
00:08:40it weighs less, in any case...
00:08:42at the moment when investments must be made on the regional budgets. Now, on
00:08:46teachers, there is the creation of about 200 positions, which only covers
00:08:50one million hours out of the 15 and a half million hours that are missing
00:08:54every year in class. There you go, and just, excuse me, but on the
00:08:58discourse you have, which is very serious, you absolutely minimize the
00:09:01reality of social inequalities and in fact the
00:09:04social misery in which a certain number of our comrades, our
00:09:07compatriots in general, find themselves. So one young person out of
00:09:115 must have food access, there
00:09:14are 40, there are 9.8 million people below the poverty line
00:09:18in 2024 in
00:09:21INSEE, and I think it's not because it's not because they live in the 20th century, I think
00:09:25we should stop despising I
00:09:28was saying that there are people who are, no, no, no, I was telling you that there are people who
00:09:32are assigned precisely by a system and that we must
00:09:36collectively make the effort to think about this new world because
00:09:39this reality anyway, it imposes itself on us, that it's
00:09:43too simplistic to see it only as the rich escaping tax or not because it's
00:09:46infinitely more complex than that and when I ask you the question on the contrary I think we must
00:09:50respect people and respect is to tell them the truth you will have a diploma
00:09:54at bac +5 and what will you do with it what I notice today is that people from
00:09:57Silicon Valley say we don't even want to hire people who come out of universities because we want to
00:10:01train them ourselves because the world is moving so fast that no but
00:10:05it participates in this anxiety I agree but precisely respect
00:10:08people and respect your generation is to say but let's have a discourse of truth
00:10:12it's disturbing, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, let's stop having
00:10:16catastrophist discourses all the time about climate, about immigration, about I don't know what, because
00:10:20the future is what we make of it, but yes, let's face
00:10:23it head on because it's dizzying.
00:10:28to come back nonetheless to the political response, we are at
00:10:32a moment, first of all, a presidential campaign, so
00:10:36and then especially a budget, finally, well, an end of reign, it must be said
00:10:40anyway, with an extremely constrained budget, you just have to see yesterday the budget was rejected unanimously
00:10:44in the National Assembly, so that, well, I imagine when you hear
00:10:47that, Bruno Cotres, how can we move forward? That means using a
00:10:5149.3 or ordinances, so there will immediately arise the problem of democracy
00:10:55or not democracy, finally, there, rejected unanimously
00:10:58yesterday, it is still a blocking situation,
00:11:01an unprecedented impasse in
00:11:04total, totally, we are totally at an impasse,
00:11:07it is absolutely unprecedented, meaning that the government did not even have
00:11:11the support of its own parliamentarians,
00:11:13so unanimously, it is quite, it is
00:11:17quite exceptional, this morning I had my science students, we
00:11:21talked about French current events, I announced that to them and I saw on the faces of my students,
00:11:25coming from other countries, they were incredulous, they thought I had
00:11:28not checked the information, there you go, no, I'll show them,
00:11:32no, no, that's really what is happening, so the candidates
00:11:35from Horizon, finally the whole center voted against, we are living in a period that
00:11:38is a period of impasse,
00:11:41uh, we see that at the same time there is an effect which is Emmanuel Macron's 10 years
00:11:45which are really ending in an impasse, the head of state no longer has the
00:11:48means, he no longer even has the possibility of creating a horizon since everyone knows that in a few
00:11:52weeks... he's no longer there, so he doesn't even have the possibility of creating a rebound
00:11:55effect, uh, he has a
00:11:59popularity that is extremely low, a poll today puts him at 13
00:12:02% popularity, it's the record of the entire 5th Republic for
00:12:08majority, his prime minister has no
00:12:11solution for the budget and we are in a kind of
00:12:14situation, a technocratic government that has not
00:12:17received strong popular legitimacy to make
00:12:21choices that it cannot, that it cannot ultimately. I am relying on a
00:12:25popular mandate that was given to me, it is the consequence, the consequence of the
00:12:28dissolution, the consequence of the dissolution, so we are truly, truly,
00:12:31truly at an impasse, Anna Navarro, because there he
00:12:34is going to try to gain a little bit, revalue the minimum wage for example, so here we are talking about AI and all
00:12:38that, and then we come back to the minimum wage, which is still really, well, how do we
00:12:42revalue the minimum wage today? It increased by 1.2% in January,
00:12:462.4% in June because it is indexed to inflation, so there it
00:12:49would perhaps get a boost. The CGT is asking for a 10% increase, the CFDT a
00:12:53100 euro increase. We
00:12:56listened this morning to Amir Reza Tofigi, who is the
00:13:00head of the employers' organization for entrepreneurs, he says we absolutely
00:13:04must not increase the minimum wage, so we are still in that debate today, yes, and we are talking
00:13:07about bringing forward the revaluation of the minimum wage by a month
00:13:11to, well, to give a little something to chew on, but it's not enough, at the same time,
00:13:15when we see what is happening at the budgetary level,
00:13:18there is a real problem in this country, and I
00:13:20think that we don't talk enough about it, not enough to
00:13:24the French, what this problem of debt is, so we continue to talk
00:13:27about increasing this, that, as if France was still the rich country of the 30
00:13:31glorious years or a little after, and
00:13:34secondly, I don't believe that a dissolution of
00:13:37resignation of Emmanuel Macron could solve this
00:13:41problem either because we
00:13:44have no party that is currently, no candidate that has now
00:13:48presented its program for the presidential election
00:13:51seems to have taken the... to talk about it, but indeed
00:14:05no one has the notion of what is the seriousness of the
00:14:09debt problem in France and what it will represent for this country,
00:14:12and another thing, increasing the minimum wage, obviously it is very
00:14:16low in this country, but at the same time, the real employer base
00:14:20in this country are small businesses
00:14:23and medium-sized businesses,
00:14:25I don't see anyone who, for example, a pharmacy that has a preparer or a
00:14:29preparer and who is already having difficulty paying this salary which is quite high and the
00:14:32social charges that go with it, or often the boss pays himself a very low salary
00:14:36or nothing at all to be able to keep his business, and
00:14:39I don't see how they can still increase a
00:14:43minimum wage by 10% or by 100
00:14:46euros per month, it's not possible, and yet the families around the kitchen
00:14:49table need those 100 euros.
00:14:53So we must remember, and you are right to say it,
00:14:55the problem with the minimum wage is that if we look at it from the point of view of the one
00:14:59who receives it, obviously it is uh that it is too low compared to the cost of
00:15:03living and inflation, but if we look at it from the point of view of the employer, it is extremely
00:15:07high because you said it, if you are for the small, especially for
00:15:10the, especially for SMEs, finally for everyone, but for SMEs, for artisans, if you have a
00:15:14bakery, you cannot, you cannot increase the price of bread indefinitely
00:15:18to be able to pay your apprentice or the saleswoman,
00:15:21and so that's a real problem. But on the debt, again, it is the
00:15:25product of our collective decisions, finally, the debt did not
00:15:28appear miraculously, there was an election,
00:15:31political pardon, there were political choices and there were
00:15:35decisions. When we didn't want a pension
00:15:38reform when we didn't want, finally, there were still many, yes, but there were candidates who
00:15:42presented themselves, François Fillon saying that we had to reduce the number of civil servants or
00:15:46state spending, the French did not want to vote for them, finally, at some point, let's not
00:15:50pretend how they did not have the possibility to vote for him, it's
00:15:53different, well, yes, François Fillon, they had the possibility to vote for, no, he was dismissed from the
00:15:57court, it's not because, well, no, he was not dismissed, he was
00:16:01present,
00:16:01not for that reason that it's the solution.
00:16:05Monday with the trade union organizations, what will it be?
00:16:19You will remain with very concrete demands, I would say, because
00:16:22here it's true that we are talking a bit about philosophy too on this set and
00:16:26and and macroeconomics, but you are in
00:16:30concrete demands, so
00:16:32250,000 positions at the university, if I understood
00:16:35correctly, 10 billion. for education
00:16:38and higher education, in fact, all of us have 10 measures, of which the 250,000 additional
00:16:42places are part, but the total is estimated at 10.7
00:16:46billion, exactly. Yes, but how can you imagine that they will put 10 billion
00:16:49in this budget, so where do we take it from? But of course, I can answer you,
00:16:53so there are political choices, you talk about the social
00:16:56system a little bit. Uh, I tell you
00:16:59that on October 12, Bercy released the figures for public
00:17:03aid to businesses in 2024, and it's 168 billion euros.
00:17:07That is, approximately equal to, give or take a few hundred million, the public deficit for the same
00:17:11year. So there is a political choice, and moreover, these public aids to
00:17:14businesses have no significant impact on employment or on productivity. So but you
00:17:18know what they are mainly made up of? Generation of
00:17:21charges, because precisely the minimum wage, why, yes, but why
00:17:24why, yes, absolutely, but why exemption from social contributions, these
00:17:28exemptions from social contributions are decided by the executive and
00:17:31not necessarily in the finance bill, and so it's
00:17:35another exit from democracy, stop businesses
00:17:38and we pre- no, it's important, it's important that the state intervenes in
00:17:42the economy and supports businesses and especially in stressed sectors and to
00:17:46help SMEs as well, the reality is that most of these aids to
00:17:50businesses are concentrated on very large businesses without a
00:17:54positive impact on these elements, for example, we can talk about highways
00:17:59subsidies to highways are 2 billion euros, which is approximately
00:18:03equal to the dividends that these highways allow to...
00:18:07produce for the companies that own them, so basically we
00:18:11finance the dividends of the shareholders of the pages, if we look if we look at the mass, because if we
00:18:14look at the mass on the GDP, the mass is the debt, it is made of
00:18:18what essentially, why do we accumulate debt and why do we have deficits? These are social
00:18:22expenditures, whether they are center expenditures, pension expenditures, so I'm not telling you that we should give them up,
00:18:26I'm just telling you that there is something that is much worse than debt as
00:18:30such, because debt can be solved by growth. We were ultra-indebted in
00:18:331945, growth almost almost
00:18:37precisely. Precisely in 1945, we were ultra-indebted, we were
00:18:42growth. The problem is that today, as the
00:18:45financing of the French social protection system, whether it's pensions or
00:18:49healthcare, is exclusively based on labor, meaning that this financing
00:18:52comes from capital, exactly,
00:18:55also,
00:18:58it makes no sense from an accounting point of view, but since it's only based on
00:19:02labor and there are no longer enough people working, that French demographics are not
00:19:05sufficient, in any case we are in a... So the state keeps inventing new
00:19:09things like the CSG, and what we need is that we have a system at its breaking point and
00:19:13it's about being able to
00:19:16say it directly,
00:19:18you present things in one way, but we can present them in another way, and it's no less valid. You
00:19:22say it's the social system, well, yes, but then I can tell you that we
00:19:25suppress
00:19:28if you remove aid to businesses, he said it very well, it's
00:19:32that after the cost of labor, they say that the cost of labor increases,
00:19:35so no, and I'm telling you that it's
00:19:39entrepreneurs
00:19:43all aid to businesses, but that we also abolish
00:19:45taxation.
00:19:50please, I have less than 5 minutes left, so I wanted to make a point just because this
00:19:54presidential election is important, so even so you would like to vote,
00:19:57but you are only 16, so for now, there is a phenomenon
00:20:01that is interesting, which is that since all these demonstrations, it is Marine Le Pen who is benefiting
00:20:05from them. In the polls, and in second place,
00:20:09Jean-Luc Mélenchon, since these are the very latest, the very latest Ifop poll, we
00:20:13see that this second round Mélenchon-Le Pen is even more
00:20:16reinforced. Why, in your opinion, Bruno Cotres,
00:20:20is the center literally collapsing even more
00:20:23since a month ago? The main reason, will it be able to
00:20:27bounce back? I think the main reason is that they are fully bearing
00:20:30the brunt of Macron's legacy. The
00:20:34two main candidates of the center, Gabriel Attal and...
00:20:41we can almost see even the differential in voting intentions between the
00:20:45two according to their distance from Emmanuel Macron,
00:20:49basically Gabriel. Attal was still Prime Minister 2 years ago, a little over 2 years
00:20:52ago, uh Edouard Philippe was much, much further back,
00:20:56so in the eyes of public opinion, they are partly accountable for the situation, they had
00:21:00a prominent position, Gabriel Attal was even Minister of Public Accounts, so
00:21:04there you go, so public opinion has still grasped that they are de facto taking
00:21:08part of the responsibility for the
00:21:10situation. After that, there is also a situation there for
00:21:14some weeks that is absolutely absorbing the entire
00:21:18campaign, the social crisis. The high school crisis is ultimately absorbing
00:21:22the entirety of the media space, I
00:21:25have the feeling of a campaign that is a kind of a crusher where every proposal made
00:21:29by the candidates is almost instantaneously forgotten, we move on to the
00:21:32next one, and and moreover, I would say that they have a
00:21:36a competitive situation between them
00:21:39that will not be resolved so easily even by a
00:21:42primary
00:21:44primary question they don't even agree on the name that it should be
00:21:48a primary practically
00:21:53so
00:21:57for me these are misleading polls in a way because precisely division in the
00:22:01center means that at some point there will be a useful voting mechanism that will be implemented in 2022 it
00:22:05happened it's Emmanuel Macron who benefited from it that devastated Valérie Pecresse
00:22:09that devastated
00:22:12I think there's a majority of French people who don't want the Melenchon Le Pen duel at some point
00:22:15someone I don't know François Hollande David Lisnard Sébastien
00:22:19Lecornu. in another scenario who will end up benefiting from it, it
00:22:23will not be, in my opinion, I've been saying for a long time that the candidates of act 1, the Édouard Philippes, the
00:22:26Gabriel Attals, they will not be the ones at the finish line, but a useful
00:22:30voting mechanism will be implemented for the benefit of someone who, in the eyes of
00:22:34those who do not want it, will give the impression of a failure. I
00:22:38will take a step back, of course, the question of heritage, of course, all
00:22:41the rest, but of scientism, but for traditional parties of
00:22:44parliament in France there is something that is very indicative now of all the
00:22:48problems there is a book that came out a collective book called "Nous les Français", it's a great success
00:22:52it's a great success with everyone who
00:22:55practices politics in these parties because they are learning what the
00:22:59French are in this book, even though it's their job to represent them, please repeat
00:23:03the book you're talking about "Nous les Français" it's a
00:23:06collective book, I think you may know to mention a name, Professor, but
00:23:10in fact they should read this book, is that right? No, they are reading it to
00:23:14learn who the people are who are no longer French, is that what
00:23:17you mean? That's perhaps the impression you have.
00:23:25by, in any case, the center that is part of the continuity
00:23:29Thank you very much, Finlay Marcus, for being with us
00:23:32Jean-Sébastien Ferjou, thank you, Bruno Cotres
00:23:34Annavarro and thank you all in the
00:23:38control room and I'll see you on
00:23:40Monday
00:23:48it is both powerful and fragile, earning it
00:23:56independence, it is an essential foundation of
00:24:00democracy, it has the same value in all
00:24:03languages, without it, freedom of
00:24:06thought does not exist, it is
00:24:09trust, our reason for being. France
00:24:1324, liberty, equality,
00:24:16news.
00:30:07Hello everyone, delighted to find you in the night edition, here are the
00:30:11headlines of this newscast: on the front page, there were 1
00:30:14and a half million throughout France according to unions,
00:30:18575,000 according to authorities. We will hear
00:30:21in this newscast these angry protesters who speak of difficult end of month
00:30:25and deprivation on a daily basis,
00:30:27Sébastien Lecornu is looking for an exit, he proposes to
00:30:31bring together unions. and employers for a social conference next
00:30:35Monday. Emergency landing,
00:30:38diverted plane after bomb alerts, about twenty flights were
00:30:42disrupted this Thursday in Europe. Two French
00:30:45fighter jets even escorted the A320 of an Irish company
00:30:49to the Évreux base, incidents with each time, two
00:30:53big scares, we will see for the passengers and on arrival no
00:30:56suspicious device discovered. And then we will go to