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00:00:22In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Hello, good evening. Welcome to tonight's
00:00:26special news conversation. In the year 130,
00:00:30the Supreme Council of Cyberspace, through the National Cyberspace Center,
00:00:34was established with the aim of creating a focal point
00:00:36for policy-making, decision-making, and coordination in the country's cyberspace.
00:00:40This was an initiative of the martyred leader of the Islamic Revolution.
00:00:43It came into existence and after almost
00:00:4715 years since the establishment of this institution and the rapid developments
00:00:51in the field of cyberspace and artificial intelligence,
00:00:54which have influenced the governance of the country's space,
00:00:58tonight we intend to discuss these conditions
00:01:02with Dr. Aqamiri, the respected Secretary of the Supreme Council of Cyberspace,
00:01:06and analyze the issues under
00:01:08this topic, for which we have the honor of hosting him. Hello, good evening,
00:01:12and welcome to tonight's special news conversation. In the name of Allah,
00:01:16the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. I extend my greetings and respect to all
00:01:19dear viewers and to you, Dr. Khosravi, and
00:01:23we are at your service to, God willing, expand on this topic. Thank you very much for
00:01:27your presence. Since we have been through wartime conditions
00:01:30and these conditions are not yet over, if you agree,
00:01:34let's start with the topic of war and how much
00:01:38our cyberspace was affected by
00:01:42the war situation.
00:01:45Look, in the documents, various countries, from
00:01:49the European Union to the United States of America and other
00:01:53countries, consider five areas as
00:01:56battlegrounds: land, sea, and air, which have existed
00:02:00traditionally. Space and
00:02:02cyber domains have been added to these domains in recent
00:02:06years. In the cyber domain,
00:02:09there are also many classifications. I will mention three of the most
00:02:13important ones, which, incidentally, are mostly used by our enemies against our country.
00:02:17The first one, which is more
00:02:20mysterious, and people might have heard a lot about it,
00:02:24is cyberattacks, which they call hacking, infiltration, and so on.
00:02:27Well, this is the first area
00:02:30that we were involved in before the war, intensified
00:02:34during the war, and did not stop or cease.
00:02:37So, we are still fighting the enemy
00:02:41in this area, containing their attacks,
00:02:44and thank God, most of their attacks have been contained, although
00:02:47in some places, they have managed to inflict
00:02:50damage. The second area is the use of cyberspace
00:02:54data for military purposes, meaning where they come
00:02:58and set up their network
00:03:01for terror, for destruction, for causing damage, and they use it extensively.
00:03:05That's the second area. Or the third area,
00:03:08which in the documents of many
00:03:12countries is identified as one of the top five threats in recent years,
00:03:15is the discussion of cognitive operations and
00:03:18misinformation or deceptive information, which mostly targets
00:03:22public opinion, people's resilience, and
00:03:25creating tension for the psychological security of the people. And we were involved in it.
00:03:29That's right. Yes, we were involved in all three of them during the war, and
00:03:33thank God, our country's children have done many valuable
00:03:36and good things, meaning they were able to neutralize
00:03:40and stop many of the plans that the enemy had planned
00:03:43and hoped for. In the offensive
00:03:46domain, did we also have a plan in the cyber domain? Well,
00:03:50I don't know about those.
00:03:53Meaning, the actions that Iran had taken, or if it intended
00:03:57to take them, you now, sir, very.
00:04:20There were heavy blows. It's in their own reports, published in their news. Many of their services
00:04:24were disrupted, and things they didn't understand
00:04:27where they were hit from, yes, after all, everyone is there.
00:04:31Supporters of the Islamic Revolution, thank God, a help
00:04:34is being sent to them. The issue
00:04:36of people's psychological security in cyberspace is also very important,
00:04:40especially in wartime conditions. Do you also have any input
00:04:43in this area, or were actions taken, or
00:04:46is it planned for the future? Look,
00:04:50in this area, we have some proactive measures, like passive measures.
00:04:53One of the most important things is this
00:04:57transparent, accurate, and fast information dissemination.
00:05:00When the enemy starts using misinformation,
00:05:04deceptive information to bombard and constantly say such and such
00:05:07a problem exists, they keep focusing on one issue and repeating
00:05:11it until it becomes a big deal for all of us. Well, we address this with correct
00:05:15and proper information dissemination in our social networks,
00:05:19among organizations and agencies. A part of this work is being done, and a part
00:05:22of it is, after all, the enemy's tools for this
00:05:25influence. And just as we use our social networks for
00:05:29transparency and information dissemination, they are also
00:05:32doing this work.
00:05:35And in this process, we try
00:05:38when they start operating in their network, what does operation in the network mean? It means they have a tool and can deliver
00:05:43some content, some data to some people.
00:05:46When they manipulate this data
00:05:50to guide everyone in a specific direction,
00:05:53we suddenly see that in normal circumstances, networks have various
00:05:57concerns, different types exist in different networks. When
00:06:01suddenly all networks focus on one issue, it's called platform
00:06:04convergence. This means that
00:06:07the person sitting behind it has given an order for everyone to focus on this area
00:06:11and do this
00:06:17work. Now, the more we can reduce the enemy's penetration rate for influence, the more advantageous it will be for us. How is this penetration
00:06:21reduced? Through what mechanism can it happen?
00:06:25With us,
00:06:28in fact, we manage this access, and limited
00:06:31access occurs. Access that can
00:06:35exist from the enemy, yes, those channels that exist for this to happen,
00:06:39and on the other hand, strengthening domestic
00:06:41channels, those who don't want to operate
00:06:45against our people, our own networks where people can really
00:06:49have a suitable and good life. How much
00:06:52information dominance do we have in the field of cyberspace, especially during wartime?
00:06:56Well, it's very important that we have intelligence
00:07:00dominance over the enemy so that we can both predict
00:07:03and monitor many of their actions before they happen,
00:07:07and neutralize them. And also, when they take actions,
00:07:10how much intelligence dominance do we have over the enemy?
00:07:21That means wherever there's a network, access exists,
00:07:24and this is for everyone.
00:07:27Second, look, the enemy is
00:07:30doing a bad thing. We always, for example,
00:07:34our mindset is like this, meaning in Iran, I think
00:07:38everyone's feeling is the opposite of this. We always like progress. We want to develop new technologies,
00:07:42do innovative work
00:07:46to have a better, easier life, a healthier space,
00:07:49to live better. The enemy has come
00:07:52and is using this technology for crime and murder and so on.
00:07:56I mean, it's surprising that a technology that can be used to do a thousand good things,
00:08:00they use it for that one bad thing. They start
00:08:03doing it with it.
00:08:05This is how it is. The opponent is so predatory,
00:08:09so savage. He's got a tool in his hand, he bites. Well, now you've given him a tool,
00:08:13you've given him the cyberspace tool, and he starts
00:08:17using his intelligent systems,
00:08:20using his hardware and various vendors
00:08:24he has. He starts using everything. Look,
00:08:27here
00:08:29it's
00:08:32easy to say, look, we know who is doing what.
00:08:35If that startup network
00:08:39that is currently working with the regime's military
00:08:43industries, with the main focus on the regime's aerospace
00:08:46industries, I'm being transparent, their
00:08:49hands are stained with the blood of our people.
00:08:53Now you're generally saying that startup network, some people might think that this is a claim
00:08:57we are making. Can we name them, Dr.?
00:09:00Their names, which they know that we know, well,
00:09:04for example, there's Exxon, Exxon UAV Vision, I don't
00:09:08know,
00:09:23we forget and these
00:09:26are operating against our people in a military war. These
00:09:30are involved in terror, in assassinations, in various
00:09:33activities, and
00:09:36I think it's better that those who work
00:09:40there decide sooner for their own future
00:09:43to leave that place and not cooperate anymore. These companies
00:09:47should cut their ties, because after all, these are the enemy's
00:09:51war tools. The enemy is using the data they produce
00:09:54to operate against our people. Their hands are stained with the blood
00:09:58of our people. Can these three companies be clearly identified as what they were
00:10:01doing or are doing? These are now details. These are in areas
00:10:05where they are developing tools so that they can carry out more operations
00:10:09and attacks, more frequently. They are directly
00:10:13involved. That means in the field of terror, identifying targets, these
00:10:16three companies are directly involved. Or they are providing products
00:10:20to the military industries that are being used for these purposes.
00:10:22It has tomorrow.
00:10:26And this warning you gave that they should cut off cooperation
00:10:29or essentially terminate their contract,
00:10:33after all, parents tell their children, "Son, it's not good there, be careful."
00:10:37What will happen? Well, we will see what
00:10:40happens.
00:10:43Do you have more information about these companies and this intelligence dominance,
00:10:47regarding what other actions are taking place against us
00:10:51in the cyber domain, and we know these things are happening?
00:10:55These guys are trying to disrupt
00:10:58the country's various systems and undermine
00:11:02the people's psychological peace. Well, these are the same APT teams
00:11:06that we know. They are coming and, after all, causing
00:11:09disruptions, causing problems, and
00:11:12these are all their tools.
00:11:16They are revealing everything they have, meaning things that
00:11:20they might have kept for years for a rainy day, they are using them.
00:11:23Now their rainy day has come. Look, when someone
00:11:26comes and wipes our firmware,
00:11:29a switch's firmware, and locks it
00:11:32so no one can upload anything on it, that manufacturing
00:11:36company has clearly cooperated. That manufacturing
00:11:40company will lose its reputation worldwide.
00:11:43That means someone comes and tarnishes the reputation of a tech giant to strike
00:11:47a blow to us. Well, experts
00:11:51all over the world will hear about this. This is not something that will remain between
00:11:54four people. No one will understand.
00:11:58The other party is using up the credibility it has built in the market for years.
00:12:01This means that it is revealing everything it has
00:12:05to deliver a serious blow, and by God's grace,
00:12:08thank God,
00:12:10the people working in this field have really done wonders. They are in various agencies,
00:12:14in the agencies of the organizations themselves, in some more professional
00:12:17and focused groups. We have them in this field who help organizations.
00:12:21All this network that is active here has truly been active during these days.
00:12:25Maybe in the past 8 months, they have been busy every day.
00:12:29And by God's grace, our
00:12:32services are now power-just. Maybe some of them had problems for a few days,
00:12:36went up and down, which people don't feel. That is, people did feel it,
00:12:39but most don't feel it. No, they don't feel the wartime conditions in cyber
00:12:43because such stability is happening.
00:12:47They don't feel that wartime conditions exist.
00:12:50Things are really happening, and their news is not published,
00:12:54but some people are working 24 hours a day.
00:13:25And the fact that identity verification doesn't happen, these are not the case. These are not global
00:13:29accountability-takers. These are not accountability-takers. Well,
00:13:32but among these professionals, there are some signatures.
00:13:36For example, this signature belongs to such and such a group. They leave their signature and go.
00:13:39They don't take responsibility. That country and that intelligence
00:13:43dominance is here. Everyone here
00:13:46knows everyone, and they will come into that same circle. We will see what
00:13:50will happen, meaning it will be among our legitimate targets. If
00:13:54the Geneva Convention. Any technology,
00:13:58any tool that is used
00:14:01against a country in war is considered a weapon of war. This is the text
00:14:05of the Geneva Convention. All countries have signed it and accept
00:14:08it. It's not strange that we say whoever used
00:14:12this tool against our people in war is considered a weapon of war according
00:14:15to the same convention. And the definition of a weapon of war
00:14:18is clear. In fact, now the decision-maker
00:14:21and the priorities that the country has determine which area.
00:14:28It's not our area, but these are all, according to the Geneva Convention, tools
00:14:31that are being used against our people in war, and we have now proven that,
00:14:35apart from intelligence dominance, we have the ability to counter
00:14:39all these threats and attacks, and
00:14:42its manifestation is the stability of our network and services
00:14:46that people use daily. That's right, to sum
00:14:49up, and we always have a saying that many times
00:14:53they want to create fear. They want to scare us, saying, "Oh, such
00:14:56and such a technology cannot be done anything about anymore." We have
00:14:59a saying that history has proven, and that is:
00:15:03technology can be controlled by technology.
00:15:05Now, we will get to that later, meaning we will name it and talk about it.
00:15:09But before that, on the occasion of the publication
00:15:13and unveiling of this book, "Cyberspace Governance
00:15:16in the Thought of the Martyred Leader, Imam Ayatollah
00:15:20Seyed Ali Khamenei, may Allah purify his soul," which this book
00:15:24was recently published and unveiled by the Office for the Preservation and Publication of the Works of the Martyred Leader of the Revolution,
00:15:27I want to enter this area to discuss the logic
00:15:31of this cyberspace governance
00:15:35that the revered Leader emphasized so much.
00:15:39What is it, and to what extent have we been successful
00:15:42in establishing this governance in cyberspace?
00:15:44Well, truly,
00:15:48when one reads the history of this country,
00:15:52from the entry of the internet in the year seventy-something,
00:15:55the martyred Imam welcomed it and issued
00:15:59three decrees that have been widely published in the media.
00:16:03And he, since the entry of this
00:16:06technology into the country,
00:16:09from the organization of this technology in those general policies that were in place even before the establishment of the council,
00:16:12many people probably think that the national information network belongs to
00:16:16the Cyberspace Council. No, the national network was an order he had issued
00:16:20several years before the council's establishment, and
00:16:24regarding correct information dissemination, he had stated it in various
00:16:27documents. And the work continued
00:16:31until 2011, when he,
00:16:35with a very, very, very
00:16:38precise vision, launched the Supreme Council and the National Center.
00:16:41Perhaps some countries that have similar structures, for example, they have a Supreme Commission for Cyberspace
00:16:45Management, which is similar to our council, or
00:16:49for example, a subordinate organization that is similar to our National Center,
00:16:52all of them were formed after us in countries that today
00:16:56have something to say. If I want
00:16:58to explain the logic of governance, in fact,
00:17:02what I perceive, of all things, was the most beautiful
00:17:05in the intellectual system of our martyred
00:17:09Imam.
00:17:12Whenever technology emerges, we have three groups
00:17:15in every matter. One group, or two groups, out of
00:17:19fear, we call it avoidance fear, meaning, "Oh, whatever comes, they say, 'This
00:17:23is dangerous, this might be, I don't know, a Trojan horse, a thousand troubles
00:17:26might befall us.' Oh, stay away from this, strongly prevent it from coming,
00:17:30everyone should stop it." This is the first group
00:17:33that has avoidance governance,
00:17:36meaning they avoid every
00:17:39issue. The second group has passive fear,
00:17:43meaning whatever technology comes, they say, "Oh,
00:17:47nothing can be done anymore, it's over." That means
00:17:50you can see this in various fields. Well,
00:17:54they completely discourage everyone and say, "Oh, it's over."
00:17:58This is what we call passive fear. They become passive,
00:18:01meaning you just have to console them and say, "By God, it's nothing,
00:18:05we will solve it." The third logic
00:18:07is courageous people. Courageous
00:18:11people are neither afraid of technology nor have a problem with technology.
00:18:14In fact, they say, "This technology is
00:18:17an opportunity. We must be able to go and manage
00:18:20and control this technology, take it into our own hands,
00:18:23according to our own laws, according to our own principles and values,
00:18:27and use it." Well,
00:18:31wherever we entered a new domain with fear,
00:18:33we suffered heavy damage.
00:18:38Wherever we entered with courage, we were able
00:18:41to achieve accomplishments, both in its military domain and in its other
00:18:44domains. What was most appealing to me
00:18:48about the governance of the martyred Imam,
00:18:51is that he truly entered the scene courageously.
00:18:55That means he neither avoided nor was passive.
00:18:59Yes, high horizons. Now, in the book, some
00:19:02parts say that he says, "Well, if you let go,
00:19:06then it will learn."
00:19:12Management and everything will go. You not only have to let go, you not only have to focus on our own geography, because cyberspace
00:19:15has no time and no geography,
00:19:19no place, it's everywhere. You have to make this a model,
00:19:23do special things so that others can also come and use it. Why do we always
00:19:26use other people's products? They should come, we should make
00:19:30exquisite, limited, and quality products that are attractive so that other countries can
00:19:34come. Why should we look at our own population of 80 million, 90 million?
00:19:37We should look at the population of the region and say,
00:19:41"West Asia, North Africa, Eastern Europe." We should be able to take
00:19:45charge of this area. And his courage in dealing with this
00:19:48phenomenon, which even now, even now,
00:19:51many people still, when faced with it, either say,
00:19:55"Stay away," or they say, "Let
00:19:58it go." His courage in the matter
00:20:01is truly appealing. That is, in various speeches, well, in this
00:20:05book that I was reading myself, his courage is fully evident.
00:20:09If we adopt this
00:20:11as a principle in many areas and proceed with this approach,
00:20:15many of our problems will be solved. Well, now you mentioned
00:20:18technology. Now there's an issue called
00:20:21satellite internet or Starlink. This, after all,
00:20:25exists. Now, is our approach to
00:20:28Starlink passive, avoidance, or courageous?
00:20:32And I decided to ask here to raise the issue of governance
00:20:36because can it affect our governance,
00:20:39because many are worried that no matter how much you want to impose
00:20:43governance in cyberspace, there's a Starlink that is not under
00:20:46your control at all. It's a completely different space.
00:20:50Look, in 2021,
00:20:54if I'm not mistaken, 41,
00:20:57the Ministry of Communications is responsible for frequency in the country.
00:21:00The Ministry of Communications came and announced
00:21:04the framework for granting licenses to satellite
00:21:07internet providers. The commission approved
00:21:11a transparent framework. It said, "We welcome this technology.
00:21:14Anyone who wants to come to our country should provide services based
00:21:18on this framework and this law to the people."
00:21:22This is very good. It can greatly
00:21:25reduce our costs for remote areas where we
00:21:29want to use this method instead of pulling all these wires and cables,
00:21:33and installing all these radios. In fact, in our
00:21:36news, it was also reported that in the same year 2023, if I'm not mistaken, one of the
00:21:40companies came and had a negotiation. In fact, an initial
00:21:44discussion was held, but well,
00:21:47part of it is due to US sanctions, another part is due to the pressures that these companies
00:21:51face. No one came to an agreement under this
00:21:54contract, but is this an unlikely
00:21:58claim? Is it strange? No, if you look at all countries,
00:22:01all countries follow this path. Now India came
00:22:04and said, "This is my framework." "I will only allow you to provide
00:22:08service in those remote areas that are difficult for me to reach."
00:22:11They come and sign contracts. The framework
00:22:15is clear, the penalty is clear, even
00:22:18the policies applied to the network
00:22:20are clear. According to the same policy, that country
00:22:23announces it. Before this issue, many of these airline
00:22:26companies had taken satellite internet,
00:22:29Starlink. Starlink and others are also there. Others are also
00:22:33coming into the field. Now, when you pass over different countries, it would sometimes
00:22:37cut off and then reconnect. It was said that in this country that we are
00:22:40passing through its airspace, this country does not have a contract with us, so we cannot provide
00:22:44service here. When it passed from that country to the next country that had service,
00:22:48it would connect there. So this. The point is that everyone must
00:22:52accept our legal framework. Anyone who wants to provide service,
00:22:55after all, the country has laws. Our legal framework is not a complicated framework;
00:22:59it's the same framework as our operators, the same as Irancell
00:23:02and Hamrah Aval mobile. It's something similar
00:23:06to that, with a little bit of technical differences in terms of
00:23:09its frequency and so on. Some parts are different because, after all, the type of its frequency
00:23:13is different. But for a company to expect
00:23:17to come and undermine the country's governance
00:23:20and say, "I'm going to provide service aggressively," well,
00:23:23this was condemned in international forums. The Islamic Republic pursued
00:23:27it powerfully in the ITU,
00:23:31which is an international organization under the United Nations for these communication
00:23:34areas. The Ministry of Communications did a very organized job
00:23:38in the past four or five years and took it there and complained, saying, "This is violating my law,"
00:23:41and it was condemned there. It was announced to the Norwegian
00:23:45regulator and the American regulator that this is violating the license it has.
00:23:48All its excuses were answered. But
00:23:52the problem with
00:23:55this tool is that if you look at
00:23:58the situation in Ukraine, in
00:24:01Ukraine, they ultimately gave this
00:24:04to them as a military
00:24:08tool. Dilamas says it's not a military
00:24:10tool. He said, "Since it's not a military tool, I cut it off now."
00:24:14That is, in this,
00:24:16in this period.
00:24:36The thing is, for example, a bird is not a pigeon flying around,
00:24:39so it's clear. But this point you made
00:24:43is important. That means those who do not have mercy
00:24:46on their own forces, these are all sorts of people.
00:24:50They have given up their country and left.
00:24:54They have worked, and they get kicked in the face every day. The fate of cooperation with them
00:24:56is clear. We, with authority,
00:25:00manage technology with technology. Either they have to accept our laws
00:25:04and our conditions,
00:25:06under the organization of our country,
00:25:10which the Ministry of Communications is responsible for, they should start
00:25:12providing services, or we can stop them.
00:25:16The enemies took it into their hands in the United Nations.
00:25:20It showed you, for example, with the claim that many things can be done with this, that
00:25:24this was merely a media and psychological
00:25:27work, a show, that they wanted
00:25:31to perform at the international level. No, look, the enemy was very hopeful
00:25:34about this. The enemy had
00:25:37three major events last year.
00:25:41We had two wars and a coup in the discussion of
00:25:44the coup in January. The enemy was hopeful
00:25:47about this. It was disrupted,
00:25:50and Western newspapers and Western news agencies
00:25:54announced its news. We disrupted it, meaning, yes,
00:25:57it didn't disrupt itself. But
00:26:01they hoped for some upgrades in their system. Now,
00:26:05we are not idle here. They upgraded, they did that, they did this so that they can once again
00:26:08use it as a military tool, once again use it
00:26:12as a networking tool.
00:26:16That is, certainly, a war criminal who does not wish us well
00:26:19at all, meaning if we even give him a toothbrush, he will poke someone's eye with it.
00:26:23He doesn't use anything correctly.
00:26:26He wants to operate with it against
00:26:29the peace of our people. We will certainly stop him, no matter what.
00:26:33He has upgraded, and he is hopeful about his upgrade. But
00:26:36on his upgrade, we also have other upgrades in our system.
00:26:40Now, when the country
00:26:43decided to switch from oversight mode to control
00:26:46mode, it will control it. And you once announced that
00:26:50we have the technology to,
00:26:52in fact, disable this technology
00:26:56and even make it available to others. That's right, we have several
00:27:00technologies. Those that we have actually
00:27:02used and that work,
00:27:06we are ready to cooperate with like-minded countries,
00:27:09to interact. Technology exchange is natural between countries.
00:27:13And this issue, not only us, but other countries have also worked on it.
00:27:17Now the news is out. There are even messages and responses
00:27:20about what they have done, and I think this issue, which they
00:27:24were very hopeful about, that they could do something, is resolved, God willing.
00:27:28God willing. Thank you very much. Regarding indigenous satellite
00:27:32internet solutions, do we currently have a program in the country? Yes, look,
00:27:36in the year 1400,
00:27:39it wasn't even widespread yet. As soon as this technology was developed,
00:27:43the Supreme Council of Cyberspace put it on its agenda.
00:27:47This, in fact, was very timely
00:27:50and also had development
00:27:53programs, meaning it was mandated.
00:27:56part of the country that either
00:28:00independently or in cooperation with another
00:28:02country, they are also working on satellite internet. A joint
00:28:06program should be defined, and we should even make a joint investment or
00:28:09independently. Now, the decision is with the government
00:28:13body
00:28:15so that we can provide these services. After all, it's a good
00:28:18service, an attractive service. It can cover many areas where we
00:28:22have little coverage, many areas where, for example, in the desert, children
00:28:26who go off-roading and want to be able to provide them with services. This project has
00:28:29also started.
00:28:34Even now, the friends themselves will probably announce that they have
00:28:38had good achievements in it. But
00:28:41it takes time, meaning it's not like we can have something tomorrow morning,
00:28:44but the path we are on is a good path, meaning we will soon
00:28:47have our own domestic satellite internet. Now, how soon is this? The responsible
00:28:51body should announce it,
00:28:54but they announced it a while ago. Now, because I might not
00:28:57be accurate, and it might have changed now, I won't tell
00:29:01you. But they are doing a good
00:29:04job. Recently, at your command, a
00:29:0732-point document to facilitate access to foreign
00:29:11platforms was released from confidentiality and published,
00:29:15which foresees three stages. And the question is,
00:29:17which stages of this document have been implemented, and
00:29:21for example, when will the access that was envisioned in this document
00:29:24be created? When will it be available
00:29:28in reality?
00:29:31The logic of this document is this:
00:29:34we have a situation in the country. After all, we constantly monitor
00:29:37the country's situation, its strengths, weaknesses,
00:29:40areas where policies have been successful or not successful.
00:29:44This is completely
00:29:48clearly and transparently stated in our body, because
00:29:51after all, all organizations are present. We have 27 members in the Supreme Council of Cyberspace.
00:29:55These are seriously challenged, discussed, and worked on.
00:29:59And every now and then, we start,
00:30:02we try to make changes in policies where
00:30:06success has not reached the desired level, where there is a weakness, and to strengthen
00:30:10the areas where there is a strength. The logic of the 32-point document
00:30:13was this: in four stages, in each
00:30:16stage, we will strengthen a part
00:30:20of the issues within the country
00:30:23so that governance is strengthened,
00:30:26and within acceptable governance frameworks, we will actually
00:30:30make access more open. Well, this logic
00:30:34tries to preserve and strengthen
00:30:37the country's overall governance framework. That is, we believe
00:30:41that if this document is fully implemented,
00:30:44not only will access be created, but also an improvement in governance will occur. Well,
00:30:48this is an important event that we can
00:30:51move forward with this entire path in harmony. It is defined in four
00:30:54blocks, four stages are defined. Well, one of the stages
00:30:58is that people