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00:00:00In a little while, all the political updates will be called the mandate to form
00:00:03the government. It is estimated that President Herzog, who will continue today
00:00:07the round of consultations, will assign the task to Gadi Eizenkot.
00:00:10But what kind of government will the chairman of Yesh Atid form, if at all, the answer to this question
00:00:14is still unknown. We will also hear about the investigation of suspicions of violations of
00:00:18the election law, the head of the Shin Bet and the Attorney General
00:00:21for the government, after a public dispute, met,
00:00:25and immediately we will also be in the United States which is still digesting the crushing
00:00:29victory of the Democrats
00:00:44yesterday when the representatives of the factions arrived one after the other to
00:00:48recommend their candidate for receiving the mandate to form
00:00:51the government. Our reporter Dikla Aaron reports on the expected
00:00:55schedule and on the words of President Herzog, that he intends
00:00:59to ask the representatives pointed questions
00:01:02in an attempt to prevent
00:01:09were already asked yesterday, one can say, and today at the President's
00:01:12residence, the consultations with the representatives of the elected
00:01:15Knesset factions resume, ahead of the decision on whom to entrust the task
00:01:19of forming the government. Yesterday, Herzog began meetings with representatives
00:01:23of four parties, while the representatives of Religious Zionism,
00:01:26Shas, and Zehut recommended Netanyahu, the representatives of
00:01:30Yisrael Beiteinu recommended, as expected, Eizenkot as a candidate for receiving
00:01:33the mandate to form a government. Ran, one of the representatives
00:01:37of Yisrael Beiteinu at the President's Residence, MK Oded Forer, said yesterday that everything must be done
00:01:40during the negotiation period to establish
00:01:44a government, but at the same time, Forer criticized
00:01:48the possibility of forming a government with the Arab parties. Let's
00:01:51hear. We think that the State of Israel
00:01:55should not be dragged into further elections in any way. If
00:01:59someone thinks that a government can be formed
00:02:03that will be dependent on the votes
00:02:06of a list whose head is unable to say that Hamas is
00:02:10a terrorist organization, or on the votes of a list some of whose members think
00:02:14that Hamas is a terrorist
00:02:16organization.
00:02:19Yes, and this morning, the representatives of the United Torah Judaism faction are expected to come to the President,
00:02:23followed by the representatives of Otzma Yehudit, the Democrats,
00:02:26Ra'am, the Joint List, and Yesh Atid, and at the end of
00:02:30the day, Ran, the members of the Likud faction, the largest faction according to the election
00:02:33results, in light of the assessment that the representatives of the Arab parties
00:02:37will recommend Eizenkot to the President, we know this at least
00:02:40regarding Ra'am. We will wait to see what happens with the Joint List. The Prime Minister said
00:02:43yesterday that it is impossible to form a government that cannot
00:02:46challenge extremist Islam. His first concern since
00:02:49the elections is extremist Islam. This is the challenge
00:02:52that is today dismantling countries in Europe. This is the challenge that also threatens
00:02:56us, and I ask a simple question: Who can deal with
00:03:00this challenge? A government that cannot certainly deal with the threat of extremist
00:03:03Islam is a government that is dependent
00:03:06on extremist Islam, on these Islamist
00:03:10parties that deny the very existence of a Jewish
00:03:13state. But there is a government that can
00:03:16deal with this challenge, a broad national government led
00:03:20by the Likud, under my leadership, that will include all the components of the national bloc
00:03:24and all the Zionist parties that wish to join. He says a broad government, but he doesn't say the word
00:03:28unity, because this is actually Dikla. The government is similar to the current
00:03:32government, and whoever wants to join
00:03:33should join.
00:03:36Yes, and you see, we heard Netanyahu during the elections talking about the desire to form
00:03:40a broad national government, but he also says a broad national right-wing
00:03:43government. We need to interpret that and understand exactly what
00:03:46is meant. In Yesh Atid, Eizenkot's party, they said yesterday that they
00:03:49intend to work to form a national emergency government
00:03:52as soon as possible, Ran. At the end of the round of consultations
00:03:56today, President Herzog is expected to announce who
00:03:59is the candidate who will be the first to receive the mandate to form the government. This will probably
00:04:02not be today. Herzog has time according to the law of up to a week from the start
00:04:06of the consultations to announce this. The consideration that should guide
00:04:10the President is which candidate has the greatest chance of forming
00:04:13a government. And as mentioned, the assessment right now, even before the President
00:04:17has decided, is that the task of forming the government will be entrusted to
00:04:20the chairman of the Yesh Atid party, Gadi Eizenkot. Dikla Aaron,
00:04:23thank you. Thank you, Ran. Now to the investigation of suspicion
00:04:27of foreign interference in the elections and in this context, the head of the Shin Bet
00:04:31following the change in his positions and his statements about what
00:04:34happened on election day. He said explicit things before,
00:04:38now things are a little different. The Attorney General
00:04:41Gali Beharav-Miara and the head of the Shin Bet Gazini met yesterday
00:04:45for a conversation. Our legal commentator, Orit Almog,
00:04:48who was the first to expose the meeting, also reports on the criticism
00:04:52heard about the conduct of the affair. After the criticism
00:04:55and accusations, the Attorney General and the head
00:04:58of the Shin Bet are talking. As we published in Kan News,
00:05:02this conversation is taking place in order to continue good working
00:05:05relations, and what is called "looking to the future", but
00:05:09in the background, as mentioned, the criticism, including the harsh letter
00:05:12sent by the Attorney General the day before yesterday, which essentially
00:05:16conveys a message that the head of the Shin Bet is trying to open investigations
00:05:19against citizens and public officials without having
00:05:22authorization. And in the same matter, the Shin Bet presented yesterday
00:05:26an opinion that the chairman of the Election Committee presents a paraphrase
00:05:30of, but even in the Election Committee, in the legal advice, and
00:05:33in the police, they do not know this opinion and what it
00:05:37is based on. Until this moment, no evidence has been presented
00:05:41that substantiates that opinion, according to which the suspicions
00:05:45are about widespread influence that even reaches
00:05:48and is relevant to thousands of people. As mentioned, even the investigation
00:05:51team that was established for the matter does not know
00:05:54these things. Moreover, investigation sources tell us that this investigation
00:05:58is actually tainted even before it began. Immediately we will be with MK
00:06:01Boaz Bismuth from the Likud on this matter, but first
00:06:05to the United States, where the Democrats are celebrating their winning streak
00:06:08in the midterm elections, and they are preparing for control of Congress.
00:06:12On the Republican side, they are looking for culprits and pointing to the war
00:06:16in Iran and also to support for Israel as reasons that caused
00:06:19their voters to turn their backs on them. Our correspondent Nathan
00:06:23Guttman reports from Washington that even now, the counting in certain
00:06:26districts is still ongoing, and the final picture is unclear, but one thing
00:06:30is crystal clear: the Democrats won big in both houses
00:06:33of Congress.
00:06:37Today, the big comeback of America begins, says
00:06:41the Democratic Congressman.
00:06:58The Democrats are emerging from the elections energized and combative. Even they
00:07:02did not imagine such achievements, and they will use their majority to
00:07:05block White House initiatives and appointments, to investigate the president
00:07:08and senior officials of his administration, and also to try to advance their own initiatives.
00:07:12On the Republican side, it's a moment of soul-searching. After
00:07:15losing even in their traditional strongholds, from Texas to
00:07:19South Carolina, the search for culprits begins.
00:07:22The elections were largely seen as a vote of no confidence in President
00:07:25Trump. The president, however, believes that the culprits for the loss are the Republican
00:07:29candidates, not him.
00:07:32"If I had been running for election, everyone would have won," Trump said.
00:07:35Vice President J.D. Vance, in an unusual post he published
00:07:39on social media, pointed to the reasons that led, in his opinion,
00:07:43to his party's defeat: first and foremost, the war
00:07:46in Iran, and alongside it, the cost of living, the lack of focus on an "America
00:07:49First" agenda, and also the relationship with Israel.
00:07:53The Vice President, known for his critical stance towards Israel and towards
00:07:56the war, essentially argues that aid to Israel and the start of the war in Iran
00:08:00cost the Republicans their majority in Congress. Trump agrees
00:08:03that the war has cost
00:08:05voters.
00:08:42will point to the president's dissatisfaction with the way
00:08:46the war is being conducted. Trump has denied reports that he intends to dismiss
00:08:49War Secretary Pete Hegseth, but according to other reports, he may remove
00:08:53the army commanders from their positions. "When will
00:08:56the war end?" Trump asked yesterday, who had promised to end it quickly
00:08:59after the elections. He replied, "When I decide." Nathan
00:09:03Guttman, Washington. Like many things. And joining us now is MK
00:09:06Boaz Bismuth from the Likud, Chairman of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee.
00:09:10Hello, good morning. Hello, hello. We'll talk about the United States in a moment, but let's
00:09:14start with the investigation into suspected foreign interference in the elections. The chairman
00:09:18of the Election Committee, Justice Noam Solberg, said yesterday
00:09:21and said earlier this week in a joint statement with the head
00:09:24of the Shin Bet, that even if all the suspicions were confirmed,
00:09:28the extent of the offenses is not such that it changes the election results.
00:09:31Do you, Boaz Bismuth, have information that contradicts these things? First, promise
00:09:35me that not only about the United States, but also about the conscription law, you will give me half a minute. Promise me,
00:09:39because until recently, until the elections, all the aid I received.
00:10:10You agree with me, also in the change bloc.
00:10:12One of the representatives, not ours, spoke about it, spoke about the Palestinian Authority, I'm not saying
00:10:16this, the Likud is not saying this, Liberman said it, so there's no more
00:10:19disagreement here, there's a problem here, and there's a problem, a problem that's being investigated, they're investigating
00:10:23it, no one says they're not investigating. Very good, very good. So there's a problem and no one invented it, therefore
00:10:27when I see, for example, an interviewee in the previous hour talking about
00:10:30the head, also the terminology, again, it's important, the head of the Shin Bet needs to
00:10:34be fired immediately, what a word, what elegance, but never mind, he doesn't need
00:10:38to investigate, that's the whole story.
00:10:41Very good. And therefore, and therefore I say, there is a very
00:10:45serious story here. I would expect the opposite, I would expect from all the media, I would expect
00:10:49from my friends, even the opposition, come with me and say that we want
00:10:52to investigate this issue.
00:11:19Likud is the largest party in the country, by the way,
00:11:23also here, shock, right? I, who always used to say that I am nourished
00:11:27by the street and not by the different channels, so I am not in shock as
00:11:31when I returned from Kiryat Shmona, and I am not in shock, but let's leave that for now. You asked about
00:11:35Zini, Zini, excuse me for saying this, but the Attorney General, with
00:11:39her harsh letter, she could have done it differently, approached
00:11:42it differently. They could have also talked
00:11:45to each other before she did that, that hunger show
00:11:49in which she essentially says in that letter, "I'm tying his hands, he won't
00:11:53investigate this story, because the story."
00:11:58that she is supervising the investigation, that she is making decisions? What does
00:12:02it mean that she is supervising? Do you think it is acceptable in a democratic country for the head of the Shin Bet
00:12:05to investigate elected officials without reasonable suspicion? No, so first of all,
00:12:09look, first of all, look, hypocrisy is rampant, and indeed in the State
00:12:13of Israel, since 2019, even long before, long before,
00:12:16everything is from a position and the truth is an option, everything is from a position and the truth is
00:12:20an option. Why am I saying this? Because we have a Prime Minister in Israel, and you
00:12:24see this story about Zini opening, of course, the news because it's important, it's very serious.
00:12:27Now you're really asking me about this, and you're telling me here that they always try to belittle
00:12:31and humble our Prime Minister who is standing trial, but I'm asking you about Zini, let's not
00:12:34digress, tell me, is it appropriate in your opinion and acceptable in a democratic country
00:12:38for the head of the Shin Bet to investigate elected officials without reasonable suspicion, without evidence?
00:12:42One, if you have, you know, we have immunity, do you agree? Is
00:12:46our immunity for everything? I ask you.
00:12:49There is no reasonable suspicion, you say there is no evidence, the Attorney General
00:12:53says, you say that
00:13:43the Likud is interested in a unity government because Netanyahu says
00:13:46a broad national right-wing government. It doesn't sound
00:13:49like he's endorsing every word. That is, the Prime Minister, what he said, he expressed what his
00:13:53voters say. You know, you also express the will of the voter, and also the people of Israel, the people
00:13:57of Israel today do not want us to fight, the people of Israel want us to work together, you know,
00:14:01but a government, a unity government, that's equality, that's rotation, that's
00:14:04not that this government will continue if the one who leads
00:14:07it and Gadi Eizenkot joined, why would he
00:14:10join? Look, we'll also get to the United States, and I'll get to the government that the
00:14:13Prime Minister is proposing, truly a broad right-wing government, with him at
00:14:17its head, and with our hand extended, and again I remind
00:14:20you for the umpteenth time, to whom is it extended? To every Zionist party
00:14:23that wishes to join us.
00:14:44If you want to make an account and also include in your calculation those who see
00:14:48Hamas as a charity organization, you said, not I, they said it, so
00:14:52that's your problem, not my problem, sorry.
00:14:58What I'm saying, because I'll explain this to you too, we, the Arab citizens here,
00:15:02are here to serve them. I, let me explain, as a Likud Knesset member, I'm here to serve
00:15:05the Arab population, but an Arab
00:15:08Knesset member, yes, who wants to see IDF soldiers put on
00:15:11trial in The Hague, who sees Hamas as a charity organization, forgive me, he is not
00:15:15my partner, he is a terror supporter, but he is a Knesset member, but he is not your
00:15:19partner in this, but he is a Knesset member, so I can answer you about that, look at the amazing thing, look at the hypocrisy, not
00:15:23yours, God forbid, look at the hypocrisy.
00:15:32What nonsense? They don't see that he voted for him, they boycott him, but an Arab
00:15:35voter who considers Hamas a terror organization. Him, it's forbidden to boycott, pay attention, this
00:15:39doesn't make sense. So the listeners hear this idea now and understand
00:15:43that we've entered a mess here, all this to unseat a prime minister
00:15:46in Israel, and this brings me to, well, they're not unseating, they're replacing a prime minister, that's how it
00:15:50is in a democracy, let's talk about the conscription law, United Torah Judaism,
00:15:52wait, wait, wait, but when the public votes
00:15:55for him, loves him, wants him, believes
00:15:58in him, a government, form a government, if the public loves him so much, then
00:16:01come on, what can you do, 27 seats, that means something, so you
00:16:05can form a government. United Torah
00:16:13Judaism, which is part of your
00:16:16bloc, does not recommend you, they are angry with you, you promised, you, Boaz
00:16:20Bismuth, worked on a law, they want a law that will guarantee an exemption for Torah
00:16:23students, and you didn't succeed, yes, Ran, continue, conscription law, continue, let's discuss
00:16:27the conscription law. Look, it's important that you mentioned
00:16:30United Torah Judaism now, and that immediately reminds me of Yaakov Asher, my friend, Yaakov
00:16:34Asher, who was with me in the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee when we
00:16:37worked on the conscription law from Shas, Yaakov Asher, almost
00:16:41all the meetings, they heard the terminology, they heard the insults, the
00:16:44harsh words directed at them, that if I had been a correspondent in Paris, as I was
00:16:48for many years, I would have sent an article to the newspaper,
00:16:51"Antisemitism in order to pass
00:16:54the law to them." They heard many things, you who were there did not
00:16:57succeed in passing it to them, but why? But why? Because today,
00:17:01in the previous hour, you interviewed Zehava Gal-On, and you yourself, I assume, smiled at
00:17:05the microphone when you heard the answers, you are not evolving.
00:17:38Senior figures in the Israeli left, one talks about civilian national service for all, while
00:17:41for me, 10% national military security service,
00:17:45only 10%, they even told me no, wait a minute, while here you
00:17:48hear that we need to reach an arrangement, an arrangement before the elections,
00:17:51100%, everyone, now pay attention to the hypocrisy in this story, and therefore,
00:17:55why, regarding your question, yes, Yaakov Asher was with me
00:17:59there in the committee, he heard the words that were thrown at him, I think he also has
00:18:02a public, and your political commentator said it beautifully,
00:18:06his public is with us,
00:18:08yes, the Jewish character of the State of Israel matters.
00:18:12How are they with you? They don't recommend Netanyahu? Tell me, if
00:18:16you manage to form a government, will you manage to pass a
00:18:19law for them this time? This law is important, this law combines two
00:18:22supreme values, the House of Israel, one is the Torah that brought me here, the other
00:18:26is its army, will you pass this law, which you didn't manage to now,
00:18:29will you pass it if you form a government? Listen, I see now
00:18:33that on the contrary, I see now that my law, yes, you should support
00:18:37the fact that I will pass it because my law is much more authentic, much more serious,
00:18:41much tougher even than the soft law
00:18:44that the opposition presents, but it's not just the law itself, it's the whole character
00:18:48of the State of Israel, and believe me that I don't see my ultra-Orthodox friends, yes, who I
00:18:52also know all their voters, because in the last year, I spent a lot of time in yeshivas,
00:18:55yes, I don't see them going
00:18:58with the left in Israel, with those who were dragged
00:19:02into undesirable places, I'll just say one thing, Ran, just one thing, two things,
00:19:05one. Say,
00:19:14you promised that good relations with Trump
00:19:17and with the Republican Party would improve Israel's
00:19:20standing and its image in the United
00:19:23States, and yet the opposite happened, right? You could have also
00:19:27asked Ehud Barak in 2011, he promised a diplomatic
00:19:30tsunami and we went to war against Iran together with the United States.
00:19:33Look, yours, clearly, you live in a changing world today. I am older
00:19:37than you. The world when I was a child, the world I believed in is not the same world
00:19:40today. You know, I always say, if there is one book I give my children to read, it's Stefan Zweig's
00:19:44"The World of Yesterday." This is what I experienced in this new world
00:19:48in the West. What can you do? And there are these circles, he knows
00:19:51the price of his fuel, that's what he looks at. I here look at the price of human
00:19:54life. That's the whole difference. I don't have that luxury. Why am I saying all this?
00:19:58Because Trump is trying, and tonight he reiterates that the war against Iran, yes,
00:20:02he did not go back on his word and did not belittle its importance. I will tell you
00:20:05directly, and it's in the contract. Japan
00:20:10is leaving us, a friendly country, a friend, and he told me, you
00:20:14know, all the problems that Japan has, the country.
00:20:17How did we get to Japan? Please answer the question, how did you bring us
00:20:21to a situation where the United States, where Congress is one of the most nationalistic
00:20:25it has been in perhaps decades? How did we get to this situation? How did you bring us
00:20:29to this situation? In 1994, there was no war against North Korea, there was an agreement. Today, nuclear North
00:20:33Korea, they don't have much to do. Therefore, I say, the war against Iran, not only
00:20:36will every citizen in the State of Israel explain to you how important
00:20:40this war is, now let that be clear, now in this changing
00:20:44world, as I told you, indeed, again, I say, the price of fuel, and he said it
00:20:47himself, the price of fuel seemed to have an effect. A war with Iran has an effect
00:20:51on the price of fuel, but with all due respect, it is the job of a leader, and therefore I have
00:20:54immense respect for our Prime Minister, of course, on the question,
00:20:58Boaz, we will stop here, Boaz, in the Foreign Affairs
00:21:02and Defense Committee of the Knesset, one word, but with you, one word is sometimes
00:21:05a bit more. Boaz, don't get excited, what you're saying, Ran, thank you, have a good day,
00:21:09and your public, the listeners, want them working, want to see us working
00:21:13together and not fighting. Enough with the boycotts, and here I turn
00:21:16to the left, come to a broad national government, our hand
00:21:20is extended as ministers, not as Prime Minister, God forbid, our hand
00:21:24is extended. Boaz Bismuth, thank you very much.
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00:24:16Ayman Odeh, who announced yesterday that he is the one
00:24:20at the center of a Shin Bet investigation following suspicion of hundreds of thousands
00:24:23of shekels he allegedly received in foreign funding for the elections, dismisses
00:24:27the suspicions and says that this is a political investigation. Hello
00:24:30to our reporter Roy Yanovsky, hello Roy. Hello,
00:24:34good morning, Ran, and what is this Shin Bet
00:24:38investigation regarding suspicion of foreign funding? It's the same information you just
00:24:41mentioned, it's information received two weeks ago regarding
00:24:45Odeh, allegedly hundreds of thousands of shekels, allegedly for use
00:24:48in elections, and allegedly this is money from foreign funding. If you
00:24:52remember, at first Qatar was mentioned, today we suspect the Palestinian
00:24:55Authority, when we mention
00:24:58that Odeh did not run, in two weeks he will no longer be a Knesset
00:25:01member, as you said yesterday, he says this is political persecution.
00:25:05Now, close associates with whom I spoke, hear about all the suspicions
00:25:08from the media, they don't quite understand what this is about
00:25:12and where these conclusions came from, at least according to the information in the Shin Bet, and what
00:25:16they say is that if it is indeed about these matters, according to the information
00:25:20published, that in these days Odeh is raising funds
00:25:23from private donors for an association he is establishing, an association
00:25:27called "Trust", this association is already registered, you can see it
00:25:31in the records of the Registrar of Associations, there are well-known Jewish
00:25:34and Arab activists who are on the board of directors of this
00:25:37association, this association, at least according to its stated purpose and also according to people
00:25:41I spoke with who are part of the board of directors, its purpose
00:25:44is to promote coexistence, a political
00:25:47solution, joint activity
00:25:50for Jews and Arabs, not partisan activity
00:25:54at all, and also not activity for elections,
00:25:57according to the version of those close to him, he does not
00:26:00receive money for elections, nor for partisan activity.
00:26:04The donations he receives are for that association from private
00:26:08donors who are also not connected to the Palestinian Authority, at least
00:26:11according to the version of close sources. How much trust do
00:26:14the investigators have in this version? What, what
00:26:18How much trust? Okay, so I'll tell you, I'll tell you the
00:26:21bottom line in this context. We are conducting
00:26:25an investigation here in the opposite way,
00:26:28usually these things, this
00:26:31covert information, which is not
00:26:35public, they accuse a suspect or certain suspects,
00:26:37and here everything is mixed up, and therefore,
00:26:41I'm not even sure that even, just as Odeh
00:26:45received the information about him from the media, so too, it is possible
00:26:48that the investigators are receiving the versions of various close associates
00:26:52from the media. I would like to remind you that according to a report on i24,
00:26:56in a conversation between the head of the Shin Bet and the Attorney General, what was called a screaming
00:26:59match, he told her:
00:27:04"Let me investigate and then I'll find the reasonable suspicion, let me investigate an elected
00:27:07official and then a reasonable suspicion will be found," so according to the report,
00:27:11yes, absolutely so, according to that
00:27:15report, and what, and this really refers to the three other Knesset members
00:27:18about whom, unlike Odeh, there is not even
00:27:21certain information about money or about such
00:27:25or other involvement. There will be an investigation and then
00:27:29first of all, the head of the Shin Bet has long been an elected official in a democratic country,
00:27:32because of issues of donors, maybe the identity of the donors, but as we see right now,
00:27:42Haifa because of money,
00:27:46there is a distance between the headline
00:27:49"foreign funding, elections, bribery, elections" and
00:27:52places and money for associations, which could
00:27:56have certain aspects to it.
00:27:59If this is indeed the story, and we will have to wait for the details to become clear. But what
00:28:02is certain is that the details will become clear. Many entities will have to provide
00:28:06us with answers, including, by the way, those you mentioned
00:28:08earlier, who also shouted at that
00:28:12meeting. He appeared before the elections in front of the cameras
00:28:15and microphones and said that everything was fine and everything was calm,
00:28:18inspiring, he said. So it's worth hearing what
00:28:27deputy and acting mayor of Tira on behalf of Hadash, hello
00:28:31to you. Hello, hello to you, to all
00:28:34the listeners, I understand you are also close to Ayman, did you speak
00:28:37with him?
00:28:40I am in a good and shared conversation, of course,
00:28:44also recently we spoke,
00:28:46it is clear that what
00:28:50you reported speaks
00:28:53for itself, the matters speak for themselves,
00:28:56so there is no basis, as he claims,
00:29:00also to my ears, there is no basis. For
00:29:03the suspicions that are allegedly also attributed
00:29:06to him. Did you know this association, the Trust
00:29:09association? I, that's exactly what I'm
00:29:12saying, recently,
00:29:15when he decided before the elections that he would not run again,
00:29:18all his efforts
00:29:21were put into establishing this project, which he considers
00:29:24his next life project, which is to establish
00:29:28להקים
00:29:30an association where, ah, he
00:29:34organizes an Arab-Jewish movement to strengthen
00:29:37Arab-Jewish partnership to influence
00:29:40the Israeli political
00:29:43and social landscape. And where does the
00:29:46money come from? Indeed, I cannot point to
00:29:50sources, I am not a partner in
00:29:53there is a board of directors
00:29:56there that is a board of directors of many
00:30:00Arabs and Jews
00:30:03with known addresses in Israeli
00:30:06society, but he will have no problem, he will want and he
00:30:09will be willing to expose everything, all the account books, all the
00:30:13material related to this association, bank accounts, where
00:30:16the money came from, everything will be exposed
00:30:18and transparent.
00:30:20The association that is registered, here you see how much we have started
00:30:24talking now, as if
00:30:26it's nonsense. We put, we put
00:30:30the cart.
00:30:33Before the horse, there are always suspicions and then they start investigating
00:30:37them. This is an association that is registered
00:30:40in the register of associations with all
00:30:42the funding
00:30:44sources.
00:30:46This is a trivial matter like any other association
00:30:50that has a reporting obligation
00:30:53and everything is transparent and you can click a button
00:30:56to enter the association register and look exactly. So it's excellent if
00:31:00everything is transparent, then it's blessed. What do you think about the things
00:31:03of the general conduct of the head of the Shin Bet, Zini?
00:31:07As an Arab citizen, as an elected politician,
00:31:11you are, as mentioned, the acting mayor of Tira, deputy acting mayor.
00:31:15This is exactly what should worry the Israeli Arab citizen and also the Jewish
00:31:18citizen, that institutions like before, from the perspective of
00:31:22the Jews, the Shin Bet was
00:31:24a sacred
00:31:27institution engaged in holy
00:31:31work for them. When
00:31:34politics infiltrates such an institution,
00:31:38when we see that there is some
00:31:42intervention to
00:31:45justify a certain version of someone who loses
00:31:49in the elections, he started the campaign
00:31:53to delegitimize the Arab vote because of what
00:31:56happened, that Arab citizens exercised their
00:32:00citizenship and went
00:32:03to swear on the election results, well.
00:32:06And now the question is what they will do with all this political power. Let's listen
00:32:10together to a report by our Knesset correspondent Yaara
00:32:14Shapira. Exactly. On this, on the demands of the Joint List
00:32:18in the next government, and we will ask for
00:32:21your comments, here. The Joint List will publish a final
00:32:24decision regarding the recommendation only close to the arrival of its representatives at the
00:32:27President's Residence, but is expected to recommend Gadi Eisenkot
00:32:31to receive the mandate and to do so for free without prior
00:32:34demands, among other things, given the fact that Eisenkot already has
00:32:37a higher number of recommenders than Netanyahu, after Ra'am's
00:32:40decision yesterday to recommend him.
00:32:44In contrast, the Joint List is preparing a list of demands
00:32:47in exchange for support for parliamentary moves in the Knesset.
00:32:51Yesterday, a consultation was held with the Committee of Heads of Arab Authorities
00:32:55and several emerging demands arose. The first
00:32:58of them is the chairmanship of one of the central committees
00:33:02in the Knesset, Finance, Law, or Education
00:33:05for a representative of the Joint List. In addition, there was talk of establishing
00:33:09a committee for the advancement of Arab society and heading
00:33:12it on behalf of the Joint List. On three
00:33:15representatives in the Finance Committee, on promoting a five-year plan for Arab
00:33:19society, including a plan to eradicate violence in the Arab sector,
00:33:23and also on legislating a temporary order to freeze the demolition
00:33:26of buildings. Of course, the most significant demand among all
00:33:29these is control over one of the largest committees
00:33:33in the Knesset, and one of the party officials tells us,
00:33:37we will not settle again for Science and Technology or the chairmanship
00:33:40of the Committee for the Advancement of Women's Status. The Haredim, with
00:33:43fewer mandates, received the Finance and Interior committees from Netanyahu's
00:33:47government. We will want similar treatment. Similar treatment,
00:33:51as mentioned, chairmanships of committees, Constitution,
00:33:54Education,
00:33:57Finance. So, Attorney S. Iraqi, do you confirm this
00:34:01list of demands?
00:34:03I cannot confirm specifically, I know
00:34:06that there is advanced
00:34:09negotiation, and there are demands, and there are documents
00:34:13prepared.
00:34:15We must not see the parliamentary power
00:34:18that
00:34:21the last elections brought as something trivial or obvious.
00:34:24What do you mean by advanced negotiations with whom? I know
00:34:28that there are open channels between some
00:34:31of the heads of the bloc that was called the Change Bloc
00:34:35and
00:34:37the Joint List. At least at this stage, they are talking
00:34:41about actions to utilize the
00:34:45parliamentary power created as a result of the elections, to make
00:34:48changes such as replacing the Speaker
00:34:51of the Knesset, these changes, but such changes will not come
00:34:55for free, you say. I say, this is not a matter
00:34:59of bargaining, we are, by nature,
00:35:03citizens, again, I repeat, and it is good that the listener in Israeli
00:35:06society understands, there is a society here
00:35:09that they always said why it does not
00:35:12show a desire to integrate.
00:35:15Into and to realize the civilian
00:35:18component of its identity, and people came
00:35:22and said, we want to swear on the Israeli
00:35:25political field, but to swear in cooperation in the Knesset in these
00:35:29moves, wait, or also in the government or also abstention
00:35:32in the swearing-in of a government, which will help Gadi Eisenkot, for example, to form a government, which
00:35:35I am sure there is a decision, a goal,
00:35:39and that during the election
00:35:42campaign they talked about that. Uh, the supreme
00:35:46goal is to be a barrier against
00:35:49Netanyahu's return and Ben Gvir's
00:35:52Smotrich government returning to the helm of
00:35:56the state. So if it also requires external support
00:36:00for Eisenkot's change government, it
00:36:03will be in order to block the path
00:36:06of the existing government. And you are telling
00:36:09us this morning that negotiations have already begun
00:36:12between the Joint List. The Change Bloc, what
00:36:16I know is that there are meetings between some
00:36:19of the leaders of the Change Bloc and the Joint
00:36:22List. Ideas from the list's
00:36:26perspective as well. Documents are being prepared
00:36:30to submit as part of this negotiation.
00:36:34Attorney S. Iraqi, Deputy Acting Mayor of
00:36:49citizens to the parties of the Haredi citizens, in about an hour, less
00:36:53even, representatives of United Torah Judaism will arrive for recommendations at the President's Residence, when the first
00:36:57one is. For 20 years, there has been no sweeping support
00:37:00for Netanyahu in the party. We are with you, our correspondent Daniel Grobvais, behind
00:37:03the scenes of this change of position
00:37:07of the United Torah Judaism party. Ahead of the round
00:37:10of talks at the President's Residence, United Torah Judaism clarified yesterday
00:37:14that for the first time after 20 years of support, the party will not
00:37:17recommend Netanyahu as a candidate to form a government, but will
00:37:21abstain completely. The party clarifies that no
00:37:25real offers or feelers have been received yet.
00:37:28But there they are careful not to close the door to possible offers.
00:37:32Another reason for the announcement that the party will not recommend Netanyahu
00:37:36is the stance behind the statement of the leader of Degel HaTorah, Rabbi Landau, a few
00:37:40months ago, that there is no more bloc,
00:37:43we are a bloc of the Torah world on our own. This statement
00:37:47was made in the shadow of the failed attempts then to pass a law exempting
00:37:50from conscription, and these days the time for redemption has come, when
00:37:53United Torah Judaism will emphasize that the supreme interest of the party
00:37:57is only the needs of the Haredi public. However,
00:38:00it is important to qualify: currently, this mainly refers to the position of the Lithuanian
00:38:03stream in the United Torah Judaism party, four representatives of
00:38:07the Degel HaTorah faction. This is in addition to one recommendation from
00:38:11MK Gafni from the Gur Hasidic dynasty, which has adopted
00:38:15a particularly militant stance against Netanyahu in the last term.
00:38:18In contrast, the other two Hasidic representatives, Porush
00:38:21and Stark, have not yet officially announced that they will not recommend
00:38:24Netanyahu, leaving an opening for last-minute
00:38:28negotiations. This is the situation in United Torah Judaism, but in the next few minutes we will talk about Shas.
00:38:31Hello, former MK from Shas, Nissim Ze'ev, founder
00:38:35and one of the movement's pioneers. Hello, Nissim. Yes, hello to you. The Council of Torah Sages
00:38:39Deri from
00:38:42resigning from Shas. If he
00:38:46at the head of Shas? Well,
00:38:49Deri lives and fulfills the commandments, and you shall do according to all that he commands you.
00:38:53Why did you laugh? Just
00:38:56curious.
00:39:04I already said my piece at the beginning of the week, but right
00:39:08now it doesn't matter what Aryeh's role
00:39:11in the movement is. What matters is the movement itself, how it
00:39:14rises, what are we doing to really restore
00:39:18public trust
00:39:21he can even be
00:39:24in the Knesset, but ultimately he will hold the movement. Is that how it will continue
00:39:28to be managed? Is he not responsible for Shas's
00:39:31all responsible. I think there wasn't enough, there was enough incitement
00:39:34for years, I would say, against conscription.
00:39:38The issue of conscription became a campaign,
00:39:41unfortunately, so incited
00:39:44and poisoned against the Haredi
00:39:47deal with it, so that no one would think or imagine
00:39:50that there was no real attempt to pass the conscription
00:39:53thousands would have already enlisted.
00:39:57But what do we have, thank God, a legal advisor who obstructed
00:40:00everything the government raised with the right-wing
00:40:04government and put spokes in the wheels. So
00:40:08your voters distanced themselves from you because
00:40:10of the legal advisor?
00:40:12Look, the voters also distanced themselves for a
00:40:16simple reason, it's the issue of trust
00:40:19in the movement and in the leadership of the movement, especially the political one. That
00:40:22is to say, our people certainly have trust
00:40:26in the great ones.
00:40:33Regarding the chairman, let's say, he did not
00:40:36come out, I would say, decisive
00:40:39in the way and in the line, in everything that was done against us. Take
00:40:43an example, when they come and incite on the issue
00:40:46of conscription, we should have fought back
00:40:50fiercely, to say that everything is a libel. I think
00:40:53that the campaign that Shas did at the beginning was indeed correct to see
00:40:57the family diversity that you can
00:41:01have a soldier and a Torah scholar and everyone
00:41:04sitting together and it's a Sephardic family, no, but you didn't
00:41:08say that. You said that no one needs to enlist. Rabbi Yosef said to tear
00:41:11uniforms and throw them in the toilet. Gafni himself said not to
00:41:15of it. You said that. It could be that because
00:41:18of this, the traditional voters especially distanced themselves from you, Nissim
00:41:22Ze'ev. But I think there should also have been a different
00:41:25statement. That is to say, when we came
00:41:28to correct the statements that were made before, and it is
00:41:32the understanding, Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef said it following real
00:41:35persecution where they took yeshiva students on their way
00:41:39to yeshiva. On their return home to prison. So it was
00:41:42simple. So what should you have said to keep the voters? I
00:41:46think first of all, proper
00:41:49see the people in the periphery or in the neighborhoods,
00:41:52what used to happen in previous elections, it really
00:41:56wasn't there. I'm saying that Shas
00:42:00Look, let's say what we really need to do today. We need
00:42:03to demand a national unity government. Really, if we are not
00:42:07in a unity government, the unity
00:42:10המשותפת לבין המיוחדת הערבית
00:42:13and we need to wake up. If we don't
00:42:17will shake itself off, so
00:42:20it's a great shame. A unity government
00:42:24Look, always
00:42:28in negotiations, everyone wants to take
00:42:31if Agudat Yisrael and Shas
00:42:35were to come today and say clearly,
00:42:39we want rotation.
00:42:43That's what will happen in the end and that's what needs to be done. In the end, you
00:42:47know, in the end, by the way, these two, Netanyahu and Eisenkot, they can form
00:42:50a unity government without the Haredim.
00:42:54Great, let them do it, there's no problem. If someone thinks
00:42:57that tomorrow morning the Haredim will disappear
00:43:00and Bibi will betray all his promises, I
00:43:04don't see it. Bibi is committed in any
00:43:06case, I think he will do it.
00:43:10Together and much easier and much faster with
00:43:13Eisenkot than alone. So Shas is making a mistake by recommending
00:43:17Netanyahu, could it have been like United Torah Judaism not to recommend anyone?
00:43:21Look, I don't get into what the Sages of the Torah
00:43:23decide. They decide and they are not... In your opinion, even
00:43:27you are wise. In my opinion, the move
00:43:31should first be unity between Agudat
00:43:34Yisrael and Shas. There should be one
00:43:37unified move that will demand the issue of conscription. The conscription
00:43:41law. But when you come as one bloc,
00:43:44it's much easier for you, and you also demand
00:43:48not only what burns for you, but
00:43:51also what burns for the state itself, and the state is burning
00:43:55today, and therefore this unity is needed. Why unity? By the way,
00:43:59why not go with Eisenkot without unity, just with
00:44:01Eisenkot? I think Eisenkot is much more moderate
00:44:05than others, he is a more logical person than
00:44:09others. What? You'll tell me the Democrats are less
00:44:11than the Joint List? How can you form a left-wing government
00:44:15with Arabs or or I would say from the Joint List?
00:44:19It's like forming like a person who says I don't care
00:44:23about my wife, the concubine is more important. But earlier you said what about the Haredim disappearing?
00:44:26So what about the Arabs disappearing? Are they not legitimate in the Knesset? Believe me, they receive
00:44:30much more than the Haredim receive. I wish, I'm telling
00:44:34you, I wish the Haredim received half of what the Arabs
00:44:37receive today. The preferential treatment...
00:44:48Well, just on that sentence, we can really have a whole conversation. Doesn't
00:44:51it sound a bit racist to you? No, not at all. I think
00:44:55that racism exists towards the Haredim. The persecution
00:44:58is terrible. I think that the Arabs don't give
00:45:02what they receive even in a tenth of a percent. They have no
00:45:05gratitude towards the state. They are the Joint List, they are not...
00:45:52suddenly starts to flatter the Haredim. Soon you'll see Lieberman uploading a story with
00:45:56the marks left on the hand after the tefillin and writing, "The most
00:45:59beautiful tattoo there is." To legitimize going with Eisenkot, the Haredim are already
00:46:03finding verses from the sources, "And the wolf shall dwell with the lamb," and Goldknopf
00:46:07with Gadi Arbitz and Mansour Kattan, they'll guide them.
00:46:10Right?
00:46:13I don't understand what I'm seeing. A lack of understanding of what is really happening. This
00:46:16is truly a distortion
00:46:18of the perception. This truth must
00:46:22come out.
00:46:27One of them simply cocks the weapon and opens fire at our
00:46:31forces.
00:46:34They are the head, they are to blame. There are many to blame for October 7th, I don't
00:46:38think the High Court is one of them.
00:46:42I haven't seen such a thing, I haven't heard such
00:46:45stories.
00:46:51I hope very much that the Israeli public knows how to believe
00:46:55the truth and will not follow
00:55:18Good morning, it's eight o'clock and we're with the news update. At the President's
00:55:22Residence in Jerusalem, the round of consultations with
00:55:26representatives of the factions elected to the Knesset resumed today, ahead of the task
00:55:29of forming the government. This is the second day of talks, Dikla Haron, what
00:55:33awaits us today?
00:55:37Yes, hello Roni, the parade of recommenders, as they call it, is expected
00:55:40to continue here today. We are expected to see at a quarter
00:55:44to nine the first faction that is supposed to arrive here at the President's Residence, United Torah
00:55:47Judaism. They are supposed, as of now, from what we
00:55:50understand, to refrain from recommending a candidate to form the government. After that,
00:55:54we will see the parties arriving here as we talk about
00:55:58these rounds of consultations.