Israel: Kan 11 — חן ליברמן וגילי כהן

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שידור חי של תוכנית הרדיו של ''כאן חדשות ברשת ב''. כ' עב'. כ' סמ'. שידור חי.

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00:00:14The forecast is broadcast courtesy of
00:00:58loved summer until then. And he says
00:01:13that one
00:01:16of his four conclusions, four in total, four main conclusions were
00:01:20about the Republicans’ loss in the midterm elections, and one of them is
00:01:24that the US’s attitude towards
00:01:28Israel needs to change, its relations with Israel. They started, what
00:01:31is called, it’s already happening on the ground, they started on the day of
00:01:35the midterm elections with Trump’s statement that he agreed with Netanyahu
00:01:39to stop the aid, which again I have to tell you, I
00:01:43didn't find anyone who understood what
00:01:46the poet meant, meaning are they stopping now,
00:01:49are they stopping at the end of the year, are they stopping at the end of the agreement,
00:01:52no, Trump is like that, let's just throw out that statement, it didn't
00:03:05Otzma Yehudit, hello, hello, good
00:03:08morning, you will arrive at 9:45 at the President's
00:03:11House, who will you
00:03:13recommend? Do you have
00:03:16one guess? My guess is Benjamin Netanyahu, but
00:03:20the question is whether there was any doubt from your perspective?
00:03:23No, our problem right now is not who
00:03:26to recommend, we are currently asking if. In order
00:03:31to change
00:03:31the results
00:03:36of the elections, are they legitimate? There was such a thing already in the State
00:03:39of Israel, elections that used
00:03:42budgets illegally to pay the election results,
00:03:46and we are coming with a demand
00:03:50to allow the investigation,
00:03:52and to check who, which foreign country, which enemy state,
00:03:56which of Israel's enemies is stirring the pot in order to. Since
00:04:01it is clear to us where Gali
00:04:05Bahar will take it, then we demand, we demand
00:04:08from the President, that as a person who cares about
00:04:12democracy and the rule of law, he should take things
00:04:15in the direction of checking and allowing a
00:04:18comprehensive investigation of what happened here. So you are asking
00:04:22if the elections were stolen or are you claiming that the elections were stolen?
00:04:26We request an immediate investigation of whether.
00:04:38What happened there? We see people who voted multiple times and all
00:04:41the videos that are published
00:04:43among Israeli Arabs, we see former Knesset members
00:04:46talking about receiving huge sums.
00:04:50And therefore, we demand
00:04:53that you can refer me to videos? I
00:04:57will send them to you later on WhatsApp if you want. After
00:05:00the broadcast, I think that's something you can find. I'm on Google, so
00:05:04just tell me what am I supposed to Google? It's not
00:05:07on Google, it's on social networks inside, inside
00:05:10Facebook.
00:05:25You know, people were investigated about cigars
00:05:29and about catering. There's something much more
00:05:32appalling here. Someone who harms
00:05:34the voters' decision, someone who harms our
00:05:38credibility in the vote, and someone who isn't willing to.
00:05:53The statement by Justice Solberg, alongside the Legal
00:05:56Advisor to the Government, alongside the head of the Shin Bet David Zinni, alongside the acting
00:05:59director general of the Central Elections Committee,
00:06:02who said three days ago that the investigation does not affect
00:06:06the election results in their entirety. You
00:06:09don't believe that. I think that we
00:06:13at this stage need
00:06:16to allow the Shin Bet and the police and the legal advisor to the government must provide them with all
00:06:20the tools to check that the holy of holies
00:06:23of the voting system has not been harmed. That's what
00:06:26allows us. We need evidence. That's what allows
00:06:30us. There is that evidence. This evidence exists.
00:06:34It's not that they talked, you know, no, it's not
00:06:36that the idea is here. Here are
00:06:40ideas about forgery within the ballot boxes. Here are
00:06:43huge budgets that were invested
00:06:46to encourage people who sing "Biladi, Biladi." Read the lyrics of the song "Biladi,
00:06:50Biladi." Israel, it's like, it's like, it's like
00:06:53allowing to ignore for the sake
00:06:56of argument the fact that Sinwar, whose name
00:06:59is a curse, would have cared to conquer Israeli
00:07:02democracy. Before Sinwar, who
00:07:06no longer exists, is certainly not relevant to voting
00:07:10in the State of Israel. You don't, no.
00:07:21Three people, four people for that matter, one of them I assume
00:07:25you strongly believe his words, the head of the Shin Bet, David Zinni.
00:07:28As for the others, I don't know, tell
00:07:30me.
00:07:33They didn't say a word of truth. They didn't say a word of truth that the investigation does not
00:07:36affect the election results in their entirety. I, I hear
00:07:40what Zinni says. No. In the statement she, I hear what
00:07:44Zinni says now. I hear his demand. I also heard his demand before
00:07:47then, to ensure that no
00:07:51chaos is being caused within the State of Israel. Now, regarding what you said
00:07:54about Sinwar, I, I'm telling you, I heard, I saw videos of Ahmed
00:07:58Tibi saying we glorify the martyrs, we
00:08:02glorify the womb of the woman
00:08:04who leads, who brings these martyrs,
00:08:07who slaughter and murder and rape our people. Can you send me
00:08:11that video too, because I also don't. I don't know, you have a lot of videos and a lot of things
00:08:15you say, by the way, also "Biladi, Biladi" is not correct, they
00:08:18sang the anthem of a new one, by the way, check, check, it's
00:08:22very simple, write on Google now on YouTube, Ahmed
00:08:26Tibi glorifying the martyrs, it's not so complicated, it's like you're asking
00:08:29questions as if I'm inventing things anew here, all your listeners
00:08:33are welcome to write that, glorifying the martyrs, are we
00:08:36normal, do we let people, do we choose to believe
00:08:39our own lies, we're talking here. That they are supporters of
00:08:43He was Arafat's advisor, a chief murderer.
00:08:47Michaeli Eliyahu, I have a question about terror supporters.
00:08:50Yesterday, Knesset member Feiglin
00:08:53recommended in his recommendations to the President that he
00:08:55request a pardon for Amiram Ben-Uliel, the murderer of the Dawabshe
00:08:59family. So is he a terror
00:09:02supporter? I don't know if I, I no longer
00:09:06know, a murderer in the book that a murderer according to a judicial
00:09:10system that used that extorted him. In things that even
00:09:13lawyers from the left said that this method is not
00:09:17legitimate in a democratic country. To pardon
00:09:20him, I think that indeed if now if we released
00:09:23insane quantities of murderers
00:09:27from the territories, I think that a pardon, as Aharon
00:09:30Weizman also did, as the President's father also did, is also needed for
00:09:34Jewish prisoners,
00:09:37of course, to release captives. I want, I want,
00:09:40I want to finish something quickly. Of course
00:09:43we are
00:09:45against all violence and taking the law
00:09:48into our own hands and all
00:09:52cruelty that manifests itself among our people, but when we release
00:09:55you know how many prisoners we released, how many
00:09:58terrorists from the territories with blood on
00:10:01their hands.
00:10:04Why do you think Amiram Ben-Uliel should be released, for the sake
00:10:07of, because we allow them by this release to kidnap us again
00:10:11and again and again.
00:10:31Jews currently do not have
00:10:34the option to come and go, even if they repented, even if
00:10:38they regretted their actions, the Palestinians always have a way
00:10:41to kidnap someone and then ask that we, that the State of Israel
00:10:44release. I still don't understand the rationale, but Minister
00:10:48Michaeli, just explain to us the rationale of releasing murderers as part of a government
00:10:52decision that you, by the way, opposed.
00:11:09Here we are currently talking about one issue regarding the recommendation
00:11:13to the President of the State to form a government, and regarding
00:11:17the elections, regarding the elections, we are saying something very
00:11:20very very significant. We are saying that whoever looks
00:11:24at the facts. And whoever listens to the things that these
00:11:28terror supporters raised on the networks, the songs
00:11:31they sang, their statement that they will conquer
00:11:35Palestine, the things he always says,
00:11:38Ahmed Tibi, the genocide they want to commit against Jews, one must understand
00:11:42that there is a hijacking of the State of Israel
00:11:45by countries that help them
00:11:49to conquer the mechanism, the democratic mechanism.
00:11:52And therefore, and therefore we
00:11:56ask the President, just as he cared for democracy
00:11:59three years ago in the demonstrations, to also care now
00:12:02for Israeli democracy and to allow. I haven't said already, I haven't
00:12:06stopped, to allow the Shin Bet and the police who say their
00:12:10hands are tied and they are not allowed to investigate, to allow them to investigate
00:12:14this matter to its end. We don't want a state
00:12:17where foreign countries
00:12:20and terror organizations and enemy states
00:12:23and people. from within who want
00:12:26to expel the Jewish people from their land, used
00:12:29the democratic mechanism to harm the integrity
00:12:33of the elections. This is our demand, I think it is
00:12:36legitimate, you have now shifted it to other issues. What am I saying about it, what am I saying
00:12:40about it, this is not the main discussion today, no, no, this is completely, this is, this is the discussion I
00:12:43choose to take it to. You say terror supporters and you throw it out every three seconds
00:12:47in the interview, so I'm asking you about Amiram Ben-Uliel, and you say he didn't
00:12:51do it at all, so I, so I really trying, so I'm completely going.
00:12:55believe today, I say it simply, I have a huge problem
00:12:58today with a system that doesn't know how to properly investigate
00:13:02the prosecution, that knows how to ignore, to ignore
00:13:06blood libels against the State of Israel, that investigates
00:13:08senior ministers for things they didn't do, that fabricates cases
00:13:12as we see in the Netanyahu trial, that insists on going
00:13:16in a certain direction, I have a problem, I have a problem, we have, not me,
00:13:19in the State of Israel there is a problem that 50% of the public,
00:13:22certainly within the Jewish public. They have
00:13:25a problem with trust in a political judicial
00:13:28system that has long lost its balance
00:13:32between politics and objectivity, and therefore I don't know
00:13:35how I look at things, a discussion in itself.
00:13:38I ask again, when the head of the General Security Service, David
00:13:42Zinni, on election day, came to the Israeli public and told them, "Elections in Israel
00:13:46are safe, fair, and supervised in an inspiring way," did he tell a
00:13:50lie?
00:13:52I, you ask him because he also says the opposite.
00:14:05For some reason, by the way, that's what he says in closed conversations, yes, that's not reports, and for
00:14:08the cameras he said that. Afterwards, he sat
00:14:12alongside Justice Solberg who explicitly stated that there is no concern
00:14:15for the election results in their entirety. Even in yesterday's briefings, which again are
00:14:19journalistic briefings, which I don't know, but at least to my understanding, even
00:14:23now David Zinni claims. Wait a second, David Zinni, no, no, no,
00:14:27wait a second, let me finish. Even now, David
00:14:30Zinni, in closed conversations quoted in the media, says
00:14:33that it is necessary to investigate, it is necessary to do more, to complete
00:14:36the investigation, it is necessary to give him more tools, but that the election results
00:14:40in their entirety are not affected by this. So I again
00:14:44ask regarding this specific thing that
00:14:47the head of the Shin Bet says on election day about the way elections
00:14:51in Israel are supervised, that's not true, says the head.
00:15:01Who are we lying to in these matters? I'm quoting you, we're talking
00:15:04about transfers of sums up to 100 million shekels, they won't leave
00:15:08a trace, so I can't understand you, you want
00:15:11to hear what's convenient for you to hear?
00:15:15This report, later in this report, also said the sentence I'm saying, so it could
00:15:18be, I'm trying to understand if they were now, if they were giving
00:15:22now 100 million shekels to be elected. If the United States
00:15:26brought 100 million shekels to advance people,
00:15:29to pay people money to vote for Bibi Netanyahu, would you say it happened,
00:15:33I'm not saying it happened. He says it happened, I'm
00:15:36not.
00:15:54that you know he said that because you say that he said what you're saying afterwards, and you
00:15:58choose to use it selectively. This is exactly what happened,
00:16:02excuse me for telling you, throughout the last three days, instead
00:16:05of looking at reality in the eye. We are lying to ourselves, instead
00:16:09of saying, instead of listening to Sinwar who says he wants to murder us, we go and treat
00:16:13him in the hospital, instead of listening to Arafat who says he is making a truce here to
00:16:16conquer the State of Israel, we prefer to make peace agreements with him,
00:16:20we behave, I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about
00:16:24what's happening in this crazy media,
00:16:26the delusion of people who don't want to listen to the truth
00:16:30and choose to paint a reality for themselves with a brush, and instead of that, instead
00:16:33of peace, we get the massacre of October 7th, and instead
00:16:36of. Instead of peace, to wipe hummus
00:16:39on our faces, they slaughter and rape our children and behead us. So instead,
00:16:43please, just once,
00:16:46instead of lying to ourselves about something that is
00:16:50so fundamental, we waited 2000 years for the State of Israel, we prayed for 2000 years
00:16:54for a state to be established here, we established a state, David Zinni tells
00:16:57us, there are 100 million shekels that were invested
00:17:01to, to help people who oppose
00:17:04the very existence of the State of Israel. You are talking.
00:17:16that was without Otzma Yehudit, and indeed we have
00:17:19criticism about that, and it's an initiative of Lieberman and Ben-Gvir,
00:17:22and that's right, it is an initiative of Lieberman
00:17:26and Ben-Gvir, and also, also, search now
00:17:30on Google and you'll find the things I'm telling you. No, I just remember the Prime Minister
00:17:33bringing it to a cabinet discussion in 2018, it's not an initiative of.
00:17:46I think that the people of Israel as a whole
00:17:50transferred their support
00:17:53to what is called the religious camp, to those who are connected
00:17:57to the path of Judaism, of the people of Israel.
00:18:01It is true that, thank God, the camp that believes
00:18:05less, they have none.
00:18:14So indeed, whoever gives a hand and wants to establish a state here together with those who praise martyrs, may they be healthy, what can I say, what
00:18:18what is the problem with answering with a simple answer, who won
00:18:21the elections? I think that simply
00:18:25we won without the support of the Qataris or whoever
00:18:28it may be, or of the enemy states, with the insane
00:18:32encouragement of what are called those who do not want
00:18:43the camp of
00:18:46Netanyahu's camp won the elections, if I understand correctly, that's what you meant,
00:18:50how does he form a government?
00:18:54How does he form a government? Yes, he really
00:18:57has a great complexity in forming a government, because
00:18:59there was a possibility of a lot of interference, that's what I'm explaining, in terms
00:19:03of numbers, no, it's not related to interference, it's related to mathematics, we passed.
00:19:29Forming the government here is really a complex issue, not for us and not
00:19:33for the other side, I very much hope they won't go together with terror
00:19:37supporters. And therefore, there is no victory here that is a perfect
00:19:40victory, there is a numerical victory that clearly shows that the Jewish
00:19:43people are returning to Zion after 200
00:19:57her, look, you talked about foreign influence, you talked about foreign influence
00:20:00and perhaps also Qatar, what do you think about the fact that the prime minister's advisor whom you are
00:20:04planning to recommend today also received money from Qatar?
00:20:08I think that this is indeed serious, but it is certainly
00:20:11negligible compared to
00:20:14the serious allegations that are being made here. 100 million
00:20:18compared to other numbers, so it's
00:20:21negligible and of course allegedly if they received and managed
00:20:24to influence then to say that they are now, meaning
00:20:28unlike all sorts of accusations for which there is currently no evidence, even according to Zinni, there is no evidence,
00:20:31that's why he can't investigate the heads of the Arab
00:20:35parties. Here there are people who actually admitted to it. This is also a significant difference between the two
00:20:38issues. Certainly, certainly there is
00:20:42evidence, and in order for him to be able to bring the evidence and substantiate it, he needs to investigate,
00:20:46that is exactly the point, the threshold of evidence. You know,
00:20:50I once entered the Yarmuk battlefield to defend our soldiers
00:20:54from the blood libel of the prosecution and the UN against
00:20:57the soldiers who were in Mansur, do you remember the global media damage
00:21:01that was in this story, and I was invited for an investigation to check
00:21:05despite entering with permission and despite the Shin Bet not allowing
00:21:08me entry, and despite my invitation for investigation
00:21:11being about nothing, when I defended IDF soldiers
00:21:15with permission and under
00:21:18immunity, then it was allowed, but. We are talking about such
00:21:21serious suspicions against
00:21:23democracy in Israel.
00:21:26I do not cooperate with a political investigation with a political
00:21:30legal advisor, that's exactly what I'm claiming, she is an advisor, she is not a legal advisor, she
00:21:34is a politician who took on the profession to advance
00:21:37her agenda, and that's exactly the point. Therefore, we, therefore
00:21:40now, now I return to the question you asked what about the victory?
00:21:44The victory will be, I think what needs to be done
00:21:47is to have more elections or to cancel. These ballots
00:21:51that we saw arrived there
00:21:54in masses, and then suddenly you will see how it returns to balance, you
00:21:57will see who the camp that won in these
00:22:01dubious elections is. And therefore
00:22:04our demand is very simple, with God's help
00:22:08we will see, and I think that's where it's going, there will be more elections
00:22:11and then the clear victory of the religious
00:22:14camp, which is connected to its roots, which is
00:22:17connected to its history and its future. This victory will be expressed in the polls.
00:22:21You won and you also want more elections, that's
00:22:50On Road 4 North, heavy traffic from Hafgan Rabbi to Gderot. Jerusalem-Tel Aviv,
00:22:54heavy traffic from Hafganot to Kibbutz Galuyot. Commercials, and then
00:22:57back immediately. We'll be back with Chen
00:23:01Liberman and Gili Cohen here
00:23:04on Reshet
00:23:05Bet news.
00:23:35I don't understand what I'm seeing. A lack of understanding of what's really happening. This
00:23:39is truly a combination of
00:23:40the notion that this truth needs
00:23:44to come out.
00:23:49How? One of them simply cocks the weapon and opens fire in our
00:23:53direction.
00:23:56They are the head, they are to blame, there are many to blame for October 7th, I don't
00:24:00think the High Court is one
00:24:15that the Israeli public will know to believe the truth and not follow
00:24:19the lie. Real Time
00:24:22coming soon on Kan 11 and Kan
00:24:50oil. Unforgettable, here in a special memorial project
00:24:54for the fallen and murdered in the Iron Swords
00:24:58War. Mira Aylon came to the North
00:25:01as a young kindergarten teacher to strengthen the border communities
00:25:05and stayed to build her life there. She met
00:25:09Eliyahu, built a home with him in Kfar Yuval, and raised
00:25:12five children. For Mira, a full table was
00:25:16a sign that everything was alright. She filled it with food.
00:25:20And the children and grandchildren filled her heart,
00:25:23and Baruch, the middle son, was a kibbutznik from birth
00:25:27whom everyone loved, strong, funny, and surrounded by friends,
00:25:31he lived and breathed sports, from football and swimming to basketball
00:25:35refereeing, and called everyone with impressions from Burek
00:25:38films. When his father fell ill, he rushed
00:25:42to help him, and the two worked in agriculture
00:25:44hand in hand. Baruch devoted himself entirely to work, but
00:25:48always left room for his daughters, Noa and Talia, for the sea,
00:25:52for the pool, and also for riding horses. During
00:25:55the war, Baruch enlisted in the rapid response team. Mira
00:25:59and Eliyahu remained in Kfar Yuval, too. The border
00:26:02on the mountain, they refused to leave the farm that was their entire
00:26:06world, and one of the days of fighting Baruch visited
00:26:09his parents to see how they were doing. Moments later,
00:26:12two Hezbollah missiles hit the house. Baruch
00:26:16and Mira did not survive. Next to the family's fruit
00:26:20stand, Eliyahu erected a memorial for his beloved
00:26:23wife and son. Unforgettable.
00:26:27Remembering Mira Aylon and Sergeant First Class (res.) Baruch
00:26:31Aylon.
00:26:41To check the facts, to check the claims, yes, all
00:26:44the accusations that Michael Eliyahu leveled at the representatives
00:26:48of the Arab public, but he did mention Tibi's Martyrs' Speech,
00:26:51so they sent me that Martyrs' Speech
00:26:55in question. Tibi actually says in
00:26:58that video, that they also define
00:27:02a baby who died, perhaps from an IDF shelling,
00:27:05as a martyr. That's how they refer to anyone
00:27:08killed as a result of the conflict. That's it, that's a small
00:27:12thing among all the terrible things that were said. Okay,
00:27:16fine, we will dive or move
00:27:19to a look at the outside that certainly affects the inside, with Attorney
00:27:23Marc Zell, Chairman of the Republican Party in Israel. Hello, good morning.
00:27:26Morning. Were you surprised by the results of the midterm elections
00:27:30and by the Democratic landslide? In the entire
00:27:33House of Representatives? In interviews
00:27:37during the past weeks,
00:27:39I said that I was concerned about
00:27:43the potential loss because it's historical.
00:27:47The party in power consistently
00:27:50loses seats in the midterm
00:27:53elections in Congress. What I
00:27:56was surprised about
00:27:59was the extent of the
00:28:02tsunami, basically, of the Democrats. But
00:28:06I really
00:28:08reflected on the meaning
00:28:11of the matter for the past day, and we can
00:28:15talk about that. That's it, you reflected on the meaning. What conclusions do
00:28:18you reach? I, listen,
00:28:21listen, the Americans, the public in the United
00:28:25States,
00:28:28was angry at President Trump and our
00:28:31party. Regarding at least
00:28:34two things that are very important to them: one is
00:28:38the price of gasoline at the pump, despite
00:28:41the economic success of the administration. But I
00:28:45was, I was there two or three days ago in the United States,
00:28:48and I saw the astronomical
00:28:51prices there at the gas station,
00:28:54and I understand the pain of the public,
00:28:57and that is one of the things. The second was
00:29:01anger about the war
00:29:05in Iran, because they also link the
00:29:08gas prices to that
00:29:11of the war. Are they linking or is it
00:29:13related?
00:29:18Here, too, there is a certain bias because
00:29:21in practice, now
00:29:25the extent of oil flow
00:29:28from the Persian
00:29:31Gulf
00:29:33is greater now than before the war,
00:29:36but because of all sorts of other factors that are not
00:29:40related to the war, such as the price of oil
00:29:43in Russia and so on, such things, then the prices
00:29:46continue to be high, so
00:29:49therefore, but it doesn't matter, because there's an English
00:29:53saying, politics is perception,
00:29:56okay, and that means perception is
00:29:59politics, and in the eyes of the public
00:30:03in the United States, the high prices at the gas station
00:30:07are related to the war, and there are also
00:30:10and there are
00:30:12and in certain elections, like in Michigan
00:30:16for example, the change towards
00:30:19Israel, that was also
00:30:23some kind of. So that's exactly the point we wanted
00:30:26to dive into with you, JD Vance,
00:30:30the American vice president, reflected on his thoughts and. Already yesterday
00:30:33he identified four things that in his opinion led to the loss,
00:30:36and one of them is the connection with Israel, that's not the one
00:30:40from Michigan, that's not, you
00:30:43know, first of all, Talib, this is JD Vance, Vice President
00:30:47of the United States. Yes, yes, I,
00:30:50listen, I, I know what he
00:30:53said, ah, and when I read it too,
00:30:57And President Trump also said that
00:31:00it's possible, what what what president?
00:31:10I don't know, we are all looking now at
00:31:1328,
00:31:24my direction and that others within the party, but
00:31:27there are divisions within the party, no
00:31:30doubt, we need to deal with such things
00:31:34and do, first of all, listen to the public in the United States
00:31:37and give them what and provide a solution to what
00:31:41worries them, that's it, that's what we are. Understands the
00:31:45public's sentiments and thinks that now going against
00:31:48Israel is the right thing for him
00:31:52publicly, yes, that's why I don't
00:31:55support him, I and many others,
00:31:59in my opinion, the majority in the party does not
00:32:02support this approach because
00:32:05the majority of the public, especially
00:32:08our party's voters
00:32:11support Israel and want
00:32:15us to continue and finish the war in Iran in such
00:32:19a way that the regime falls, maybe they support
00:32:22Israel, but they don't want to finance Israel and not pay
00:32:26from their pockets for the price of fuel from Amir. Okay, that's
00:32:29that's a separate issue and it's very
00:32:33very good that you brought it up,
00:32:36because actually it comes from us, even
00:32:39our Prime Minister, Netanyahu, said
00:32:43explicitly that we must end
00:32:46the financial aid
00:32:49from the United States, as if we are receiving some
00:32:53should be
00:32:56able to stand on our own feet, you
00:32:59know, tell us when he really concluded that with Trump, you know, tell
00:33:03us, you know, tell us exactly when Netanyahu concluded that with President
00:33:06Trump, as President Trump said on election day, in recent
00:33:10months, I, by the way, I
00:33:12was in meetings with. The government itself when he
00:33:16said it, it was no secret. Yes, but he spoke
00:33:19about, that the next
00:33:23agreement would be the last. Now, until now I haven't managed to understand
00:33:26what exactly Trump meant, will the money stop now, will the money stop
00:33:30in two years? Yes, I'll explain to you, first President
00:33:34Trump said what he said before the elections on Tuesday,
00:33:37and he said about it, hopefully that it will somehow
00:33:41affect the elections in the US.
00:33:58And he tried it, it didn't work,
00:34:02in the end, but I'm not sure
00:34:05he will really fulfill this
00:34:08this statement, to implement
00:34:11it in the end, that too.
00:34:16Yes, right, we'll see, we'll see, but with that he contributes a bit to the anti-Israeli
00:34:19sentiment, when that's his election promise,
00:34:23there is such a thing within, listen, I remember the
00:34:2670s, okay, and I was a student
00:34:30at university, after
00:34:33the Yom Kippur War, and there was some crisis of
00:34:37oil, then, okay, there was a Saudi boycott
00:34:40against the United States, and there were
00:34:43stickers on cars that said: we
00:34:47want oil, not jews,
00:34:49okay, so, this thing,
00:34:52we know it, it's within the American
00:34:56public, there is antisemitism,
00:34:59rumor, in the United States, I know it,
00:35:02it's serious, and it came
00:35:06out now because of the
00:35:09Democrats and the Qataris and the progressives and so on, now
00:35:12it came out of the closet. To be
00:35:16accepted in public
00:35:19discourse, it's really dangerous. Attorney
00:35:23Mark Zell, chairman of the Republican Party in Israel. Thank you very much. Okay, just
00:35:26just one more sentence if I may, I wanted to thank
00:35:30the many American Israelis who
00:35:33voted for the Republican
00:35:36Party on Tuesday and before that, it was
00:35:39truly amazing. From afar, the technology exists,
00:35:43with you. Thank you very much.
00:35:51Democrats in Israel, good morning, good morning, good morning, maybe you heard
00:35:54Mark Zell, actually he's kind of blaming the Democrats, the
00:35:58progressives, by saying that now even in the Republican
00:36:01Party, they need to air out the anti-Israeli
00:36:05sentiments, blaming the Democratic Party
00:36:08for the Republicans now taking an anti-Israeli
00:36:11line, it's an interesting theory.
00:36:15But I think we need to stay on the ground
00:36:18of reality, and I think what we saw
00:36:22on Tuesday was actually it's not
00:36:26related to. Maybe indirectly also to the foreign policies of the United
00:36:30States, but mainly to the fact
00:36:33that the American voter sent
00:36:36a very very clear message
00:36:39to Washington that what was cannot remain
00:36:51when you look at the new elected officials, some of
00:36:55them are anti-Israeli by nature.
00:37:10The second part of my question is that some of them participated in demonstrations right in the first days after October
00:37:137th, facing Jewish or Zionist
00:37:17protesters or things of that
00:37:20nature who called, for example, to release
00:37:23the hostages, and I wonder if we should just look in the mirror
00:37:27and say: Yes, this is the face, this is the trend of
00:37:30the Democratic Party right now. So I'll say two things:
00:37:34A,
00:37:37currently there are 245 elected officials who have secured their seats,
00:37:40Democrats who have secured their seats in the House of Representatives in the next
00:37:44session that will begin in January, of them,
00:37:47around, I would say, 140, maybe more, are people
00:37:51who define themselves as pro-Israel and...
00:37:54And also adhere to
00:37:58what we call in English Jewish values, ah,
00:38:01now, within this range that you like to call it,
00:38:05the progressive anti-Israeli range or something like that, there are also many, many, many
00:38:09colors and many flavors, meaning that we cannot take
00:38:12an entire group and call them anti-Israelis, and now I
00:38:16will ask you, both of you in the studio and the Israeli audience,
00:38:20that the Vice President of the United States who is actually one heartbeat
00:38:23away from the presidency who said yesterday.
00:38:27That Israel is the one that brought about the Democratic defeat,
00:38:30the defeat of the Republican Party, can that
00:38:34be accepted here in the State of Israel? That's mainly what we talked about with Mark Zell, with you we
00:38:38are talking about the Democrats, because you represent the Democrats, he represents
00:38:40the Republicans, so we will continue to talk with you about the Democrats, so wait, so
00:38:44what I want to say is that the problem that the State
00:38:48of Israel has is not with one party or another, it's
00:38:51a problem right now with American society, and that's
00:38:54what we need to deal with as Israeli society.
00:38:58That's exactly what I asked, that's exactly what I asked, so I want
00:39:02to tell you this, the scale of values today in the United States has changed, meaning,
00:39:05politics in the United States has changed
00:39:08over the 20, 30, 40 years that I
00:39:11have been involved in and following American politics, it's
00:39:14impossible today for the State of Israel to come and say we
00:39:18are right and they are not, we are attacked and they attack
00:39:21us, we need to find a new narrative, a new
00:39:24narrative that speaks to the heart of the.
00:39:30And it doesn't matter from which side of the political map he is. So when you look at
00:39:34the different political scenarios that can now happen in Israel regarding the formation
00:39:38of a government, what do you think is the right
00:39:41direction? No, I will say not that I think that in Israel they should form a government
00:39:45according to what the American public would like, and not that the math even works out in that
00:39:49direction, right, but yes, I see political commentators who take it each
00:39:52one, the results in the United States, to justify why
00:39:56yes, a unity government or yes.
00:40:01So, so I'll say this, first of all, definitely, and this connects to your
00:40:04previous question, the Israeli issue
00:40:08and the Israeli government certainly took a very very
00:40:11significant place in the primary elections
00:40:14in the Democratic primary, there Israel, it was
00:40:18an issue that if you are pro-Israel, if you are supported
00:40:21by AIPAC, it is likely that you will not be elected, if
00:40:24you are.
00:40:29A greater chance of being elected,
00:40:32but in the elections, in these elections on Tuesday, this issue
00:40:35was a little less, to your question regarding Israel,
00:40:38look, the questions I have been asked during
00:40:42the last 48 hours, first
00:40:45very much since the elections in Israel and definitely since the elections in the United
00:40:48States, is what are the new faces of the Israeli
00:40:51government, I can tell you that many Democrats
00:40:55would want to see a direction here. A 180-degree change
00:40:58in the government, meaning that if Benjamin
00:41:01Netanyahu and Smotrich and Ben Gvir
00:41:04are red flags for a very
00:41:08very large segment of American society, they would want
00:41:11to see new faces for a government that better reflects
00:41:15the will of the voter in Israel, will this happen
00:41:18you understand greater in coalition formations in Israel, I don't
00:41:22know, but it will definitely help in rebuilding the.
00:41:26Hello, I'm Yoav Tzafir, I don't
00:42:12of understanding of what's really happening, this is really a distortion of
00:42:15the perception,
00:42:17This truth needs to come
00:42:20out.
00:42:26One of them just cocks the gun and opens fire at our
00:42:29stomachs.
00:42:33They are the head, they are guilty, there are many guilty parties in October 7th, I don't
00:42:36think the Supreme Court is one of them.
00:42:52that the Israeli public knows how to believe the truth and will not follow
00:42:55the lie. True Time,
00:42:59coming soon on Kan 11 and Kan
00:43:10to Yossi Cohen, father of Amit
00:43:13in Nova, in the shelter near
00:43:20with you that we deliberated how to even introduce you, you are Amit's
00:43:24father, that's clear, a bereaved father, that's also clear,
00:43:27yes, but in Israeli public life in recent days there was also
00:43:31something else, someone who came to demonstrate outside the home
00:43:34of Gadi Eisenkot, uttered
00:43:37those cries, apologized afterwards.
00:44:00During the demonstration,
00:44:02today I say I have sinned, I have erred, I have transgressed, I have done something that should not
00:44:05be done.
00:44:10What happened the next morning I understood
00:44:13and decided that I need
00:44:16to take action and apologize. That's it, I want to start with you
00:44:19from the beginning, take us for a moment to what brings you
00:44:23at all after election day to even come to demonstrate
00:44:26outside Gadi Eisenkot's house.
00:44:30What came, yes, honestly, in the results of
00:44:33the elections, what is it because the results of
00:44:36the elections ah, in my opinion.
00:44:41The elections were stolen from us, and a party
00:44:45that brought 350 thousand people more than all previous
00:44:49times, which is, in our opinion, with buying
00:44:52money, and they are now the swing vote,
00:44:55and you came to the Eisenkot family's house to tell
00:44:58him, these people are terror supporters, I came to tell
00:45:01Gadi Eisenkot, this was
00:45:04a protest, not
00:45:07to include them in the government, no. Not from within and not
00:45:10from without, even though at that stage when you
00:45:13are protesting outside his house, he still doesn't say at all if he will do it or not
00:45:17do it. We live through
00:45:20a raging media, and by the way, for example, the organizers
00:45:24of the protest, the organizers of the protest
00:45:26were very angry
00:45:29with me the next morning that I ruined
00:45:32it and it shouldn't have been like that, it was in a house of justice
00:45:36and again I said I am arguing on my own behalf, I had to.
00:45:40Get there and it wasn't easy to get
00:45:42to Gadi and he nobly received
00:45:45me, he and his wife forgave
00:45:48me and I
00:45:51called yesterday for no violence, not what I did, I
00:45:55just and I call from here
00:45:57to doctors to professors
00:46:01to generals to ordinary people in Israel, I don't say names, I
00:46:04might be hinting they also need to take a step
00:46:08I don't, I don't agree with Gadi. With the path he's taking, it doesn't matter, he represents
00:46:12a camp, he didn't go well, as you
00:46:13say.
00:46:16But, ah, those who don't agree on the other side also need to apologize
00:46:20and said words. Unfortunately, a lot
00:46:24of words are being spilled here in recent years, but there is some
00:46:27conclusion that you draw from this inner
00:46:31combustion that caused you to actually shout "you murdered your son", a very
00:46:35very harsh statement, bad, bad, but I, you deduce
00:46:38some.
00:46:52It's my duty to please them, because I want it that way, I believe, but I won't
00:46:56curse, and I won't yell,
00:47:00and we'll talk calmly. You describe that the day after the protest,
00:47:03the organizers of the protest were furious
00:47:06at you? He yelled, he wrote to me, "you ruined it," and I
00:47:10didn't understand, I didn't understand, you didn't understand because you didn't
00:47:13notice you yelled it or you didn't understand the meaning of it, I
00:47:17yelled, I didn't know, I some of the things, I don't even remember
00:47:20saying. One of those protest organizers who told you
00:47:24"you ruined it, you ruined it," what is a protest, you shouldn't have
00:47:28done that, we didn't come to curse or that, it's okay, he's
00:47:36deep down I know I did I am a religious man
00:47:40I woke up early in the morning, I prayed at 6:30, when I left, I saw
00:47:44in some group a first response from
00:47:47someone a response,
00:47:50a video, never mind. I won't blame others, I did wrong.
00:47:54A video and I didn't know what would happen
00:47:57with it, but I already
00:48:00at 8, I didn't go
00:48:10Monday, and then how do you get to him?
00:48:14I tried through people I know,
00:48:17I didn't quite get there and...
00:48:20My son was murdered
00:48:24along with his girlfriend, I'm not just Amit's father,
00:48:28I'm also the father of Nour,
00:48:30and Roiya who were with him, the bride and her sister,
00:48:34were murdered, and
00:48:37it seems they aimed Menashe
00:48:40by mistake, by mistake to get to Gadi, he really
00:48:43wanted to go, he was in some meeting, he wanted to go, he was delayed
00:48:47a bit, and then he met, and then he apologized
00:48:50to the father. Whatever it was, but he told him: We have a connection.
00:48:53Yes, and you know, you're filming the video there, I am
00:48:57curious to know what, what else did you talk about beyond the
00:49:01video that was filmed?
00:49:03Ah, Gadi asked,
00:49:06asked about Amit, asked there and everything, and how
00:49:09we are, how we are being treated, like every bereaved family,
00:49:13and until today I have not agreed to go to
00:49:17psychologists or anything,
00:49:20I just
00:49:23think it's stupid for some stranger to come and tell me how
00:49:26and what and
00:49:29Gadi talked about how important it is and all that and then talked to my wife about how it's
00:49:33her life and we'll see what we'll do, maybe we'll take something
00:49:36from him, he told
00:49:38you
00:49:41wow he told you something about his personal
00:50:44went out yesterday and I took it upon myself even before that,
00:50:48I already decided, I won't be fanatical or
00:50:51anything. By the way, I started
00:50:54my activity
00:50:56because of someone else's behavior towards
00:51:00a woman from a certain group who didn't like her way
00:51:04and pushed her in the Knesset, I didn't like it
00:51:07and I started and it will be okay, there won't
00:51:11be violence.
00:51:14There's something in this meeting, it seems to me, face to face, that dismantles so
00:51:18much of our anger. I want to ask you about
00:51:21that, what did you learn? You sound like a very politically
00:51:25involved person, what did you learn? I'm not politically involved,
00:51:29no, in your opinions, no, an opportunity.
00:51:32All my life, you know what I used to listen to only? Yes, you
00:51:36go out, what did I used to listen to? Reshet
00:52:05Yes, what did you learn about the... about this human
00:53:29A lack of understanding of what's really happening, this is really a distortion of
00:53:32the perception. This truth needs
00:53:36to come out.
00:53:41One of them just cocks the gun and opens fire at our
00:53:45stomachs.
00:53:48They are the head, they are guilty. There are many guilty parties in October 7th, I don't
00:53:52think the Supreme Court is one
00:53:53of them.
00:53:57I haven't seen such a thing, I haven't heard such
00:53:59stories.
00:54:06I very much hope that the Israeli public knows how to believe
00:54:09the truth and will not follow the lie.
00:54:13True time, coming
00:54:16soon on Kan 11 and Kan
00:55:17Good morning to you, it's nine o'clock and we're with the news update. At the President's
00:55:21Residence in Jerusalem, the round of consultations with
00:55:24representatives of the factions elected to the Knesset resumed today, ahead of assigning the task
00:55:27of forming the government. This is the second day of Dikla Haroun's shift, she is
00:55:31there now as representatives of United Torah Judaism arrived there a short while ago.
00:55:37Yes, hello Ronnie, and just now, representatives of United Torah Judaism are conversing
00:55:41with the President of the State, Knesset member
00:55:43Gafni is now speaking here with Herzog, and before that,
00:55:47we heard Knesset member Pindrus speaking with the President
00:55:50and telling him that any government that is formed will need to place
00:55:54at the top of its priorities and at the top of its agenda the regulation of
00:55:57the status of Torah students. Pindrus says it's not.
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