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00:00:21Good day to you, welcome to News Room. Tectonic political changes
00:00:24in the world, Trump defeated and Orban's defeat is now reflected in
00:00:28Bosnia and Herzegovina. We are dealing with domestic issues, with a focus on
00:00:32the position of health workers. Our reporters bring the most important information from
00:00:36the state of the world. Stay with
00:00:37us.
00:00:45In front of the Sarajevo Canton Government building today, health workers gathered,
00:00:48dissatisfied with, as they state, the unequal treatment of employees in
00:00:51the health system and the decision to approve an increase in coefficients
00:00:55for doctors of medicine and dentistry, while other
00:00:58employees demand equal access to salary increases. During
00:01:02the protest, the Minister of Health of Sarajevo Canton Enis Hasanović addressed
00:01:05the media in the government building. First of all, this is a process that has been ongoing since
00:01:09April. The union of employees in
00:01:13healthcare submitted a request, it is very
00:01:16important to say that all of them, all three unions, all workers have a valid
00:01:19collective agreement that lasts until April 1, 2027,
00:01:23until April, I don't know if it's until the first, and uh, where
00:01:27all rights from the collective agreement were respected, we didn't... we had to
00:01:30enter into negotiations for amendments to the collective agreement,
00:01:33however, the union insisted, despite, I repeat,
00:01:37all conditions being met, we started negotiations with that union,
00:01:41soon after them, after 10, 15 days, the other two unions
00:01:44submitted a request for conducting negotiations on
00:01:48amendments to the collective agreement, we with the union of workers in
00:01:51healthcare through the negotiating team of the Sarajevo Canton
00:01:54government and through negotiations with
00:01:57the HIIO, through the participation of the HIIO.
00:02:01colloquially speaking, we squeezed the maximum out of the HIIO's financial
00:02:04plan for this year by reallocating funds,
00:02:07what could be done so that it would be from June 1
00:02:11of this year for the amendments to be made, we increased
00:02:13the hourly rate, the second important demand of the union of health workers
00:02:17was the equalization of uh
00:02:19rights for 0.1 after 10 years of service for all categories that did not
00:02:23have it, and previously from some previous government it was
00:02:27agreed before me and was in the collective
00:02:30agreement that only nurses doctors and specialists have it, we met
00:02:34them halfway, equalized everyone, all workers
00:02:38who did not have it, meaning all others, all workers employed in
00:02:41healthcare received 0.1 from
00:02:44the first for 10 years of service from January 1.
00:02:48June, my request, not
00:02:50the union's, so that even those who already had 0.1 would feel it,
00:02:54and everyone else, I think, deserves it, health workers with 10
00:02:58or more years of service. some security in their mature years
00:03:02and later a reward for their good work, I
00:03:05asked for and we got another 0.1 for 10 years of
00:03:09service, but due to the financial situation in the HIIO, we could
00:03:12not fulfill it from June 1, but in the next financial year, i.e. from January 1.
00:03:16January 27. which means all
00:03:19workers in healthcare from January 1 who have 10 years
00:03:22plus of service will receive without exception another 0.1 for
00:03:2610 years of service. What happened is that they did not agree to those...
00:03:30"conditions of the other two unions, we unfortunately have such a situation in Sarajevo
00:03:34Canton that we have three unions with whom we negotiate and the entire mandate
00:03:38passes into negotiations with the unions
00:03:41where they are always against each other, where they have uh no
00:03:45understanding for each other, where the biggest problem is who signs, not what
00:03:48is signed, that is the biggest problem whether one union signed or
00:03:52the second or the third, we did not reach an agreement
00:03:56with them and it was clearly told to the union of health workers and others that we..."
00:04:00"will not change anyone's coefficients in the current year,
00:04:03existing amendments to the collective agreement imply only
00:04:07the hourly rate, however, we were unable to reach an agreement, we went into a conciliation
00:04:10process, which is some legal, natural
00:04:14consequence of unsuccessful negotiations, where I negotiated
00:04:17on behalf of the Sarajevo Canton government and we did not reach
00:04:21an agreement there, but the pre-election campaign was close, I absolutely
00:04:25did not want to politicize that process under
00:04:28pressure, because from the beginning we were on the side of healthcare workers, all employees in
00:04:31healthcare, we insisted and froze,
00:04:35interrupted the conciliation processes with both unions that we will
00:04:39continue after the elections without that political note, without
00:04:43someone gaining or losing points or so, they
00:04:46agreed, what happened now after the elections with
00:04:50the union of doctors who exclusively represent
00:04:53doctors, who only asked for rights for their members, for
00:04:57doctors when they say that we only gave it to them, that's what they demand, they
00:05:00represent doctors, we reached an agreement to
00:05:04increase their coefficient by 0.3.
00:05:07Therefore, from last night I have data, we have equalized the coefficients of doctors
00:05:11in Sarajevo Canton. "with most cantons,
00:05:14mostly now we have equal coefficients in Sarajevo as in
00:05:18other cantons, apart from the fact that in Sarajevo everyone, both doctors and all others,
00:05:22have a much higher hourly rate, so they have higher incomes, but we have also equalized
00:05:26some basic professional rights, that was the exclusive
00:05:29demand of doctors, uh, without that we would go into
00:05:32a strike and everything that follows and we have
00:05:35equalized their, well, coefficients with other
00:05:38cantons, why didn't we sign with the nurses, because that..."
00:05:42"union of health workers submitted a request to investigate
00:05:45representativeness, they lost it, otherwise the conciliation
00:05:49process with the union of uh medical
00:05:52nurses and technicians would have been brought to an end, a certain
00:05:55agreement for an increase in coefficients would have been signed, but that is technically not possible because they do not have
00:05:59representativeness, uh, what is the difference from
00:06:03that, it all goes from January 1, not in this financial year,
00:06:06that's why it is important to emphasize that the story that we will not increase
00:06:10anyone's coefficients this year, we haven't increased
00:06:13it. It all starts from January 1 and all
00:06:16healthcare workers, meaning all other health workers
00:06:20who are really important, we cannot separate them in
00:06:24that sense, the health system cannot function with one without
00:06:27the other, people without one or the other, people
00:06:31go to the doctor, whenever someone goes to the health system they say they go
00:06:35to the doctor, but the doctor cannot work alone and we have absolutely
00:06:38shown so far that we have increased everyone's
00:06:42and we support it in the next year. Of course, they are
00:06:44starting, finishing the collective agreement, negotiations for a new collective
00:06:48agreement are starting, all three unions will conduct negotiations and what was
00:06:52said to the presidents of all three unions, sometime last summer,
00:06:55June and July, in all future negotiations we will work on
00:06:58coefficients, increasing coefficients and no
00:07:00longer the hourly rate, because through the hourly rate some
00:07:04injustices were not corrected, for example, some doctors in primary
00:07:07healthcare have a higher salary than
00:07:10others, some nurses were not well recognized, some other
00:07:14staff, everyone agreed in the future, because we have a very high
00:07:18hourly rate, especially when compared to civil servants and all others, that from
00:07:22now on we will go with an increase in coefficients and we
00:07:25will absolutely go in that direction, increasing coefficients
00:07:28in accordance with the agreement, with demands or with needs,
00:07:32uh, so far I have data from last night, that is what
00:07:36the doctors said, that they received the smallest percentage, mostly everyone
00:07:40in this mandate received an increase of somewhere between 50 and
00:07:4360%, and the lowest categories with the lowest
00:07:47incomes somewhere around 80%, taking into account
00:07:50the increase in the minimum wage that they did not have and this coefficient
00:07:54of 0.2 for 10 or more years of service which will be from January 1,
00:07:57we absolutely support it, we have shown and
00:08:01I will show all workers in
00:08:03healthcare and all healthcare workers and uh
00:08:07but we also demand, of course, and we have always demanded that they show it through
00:08:11satisfaction they have. the highest salary growth of all other
00:08:14categories in Sarajevo Canton, that they show it and
00:08:17through their attitude towards patients and towards all others. Yes, we will support
00:08:21their demands, but there is no discrimination here, we signed with
00:08:25one professional union that represents
00:08:28exclusively that category with the nurses we signed for the nurses,
00:08:31with this general union we sign for everyone, which is what we did. So far,
00:08:35all amendments and all, all collective agreements and all amendments were
00:08:38signed with the union of workers
00:08:40employed in healthcare and I think they really should be satisfied because we have
00:08:44increased their salaries all the time we will continue with that, meaning
00:08:48you will fulfill these demands of theirs now that they are asking for an increase
00:08:51in coefficients and salaries, these other health representatives
00:08:54or now I told you, we go through new negotiations,
00:08:58they have finished the process of amending
00:09:00the valid collective agreement from June 1, they have
00:09:04signed that, that is a finished matter now, we have continued with the other
00:09:07two unions, we have not reached an agreement so far, now they have agreed to what
00:09:11they already have. signed on June 1 for the new collective agreement
00:09:15new amendments and we received their request which we will submit to the government to
00:09:19go into new amendments, all that to submit today, now there is a government
00:09:23session, but that will go through negotiations, this was a conciliation
00:09:26process from some negotiations that started in
00:09:28April.
00:09:30Good day, well, as you heard, the minister confirmed everything we
00:09:34presented these days, what we presented is
00:09:37true, he confirmed that we will go for an increase
00:09:41from January 1. "for all employees in healthcare coefficients, so
00:09:45here, in this part, now
00:09:47we need to hold on, we need to persevere, we have
00:09:51decided anyway that next week we will hold a protest march where
00:09:55many more of our union members
00:09:58will come out, simply we want
00:10:01today our
00:10:04collective agreement to include what was signed
00:10:08with the Union of Doctors of Medicine and Dentistry so that
00:10:11our members would have this right that has been introduced,
00:10:15because masters of pharmacy who belong to the group of doctors
00:10:18in this case cannot get that increase for
00:10:22the reason of not signing mm...
00:10:25an identical text with our negotiating
00:10:28team, so what bothered me the most is that we
00:10:32had a correct story from the very beginning
00:10:35of negotiations for amendments to the collective agreement for the reason that we
00:10:39allocated the maximum funds for health insurance
00:10:42for salary increases, then that agreement appeared which
00:10:45doctors of medicine and dentistry signed through conciliation,
00:10:49of course we support the increase, of course everyone should
00:10:52get an increase in Sarajevo Canton, this,
00:10:56because the consumer baskets are huge,
00:10:59so, we'll see what happens next,
00:11:03the stance of the main board is to go all the way, we are ready for
00:11:06every union step, for the
00:11:09satisfaction of all employees in healthcare, not just one group
00:11:12of job complexity, today the government should make a decision
00:11:16to agree to new negotiations for a new collective agreement,
00:11:19also to support what the minister said, that our
00:11:23collective agreement should be included. What has been negotiated with the professional collective
00:11:27agreement and also, as they did with their
00:11:30amendment, mm included all that was
00:11:33negotiated, that is the hourly rate, the addition after 10 years
00:11:37remaining, that it should be an identical text and
00:11:41what will happen if the government does not support it, what are you
00:11:45prepared to do next, what are the steps, absolutely no, I have no, no doubt
00:11:49that it will not support it, the government must support it, we are a serious
00:11:52union that has a large number of members. who will certainly
00:11:56follow all legal steps and procedures and take further
00:11:59steps to make it happen, there will be
00:12:02absolutely no demands at this moment,
00:12:05I am also very sorry
00:12:08that the minister made some decisions and did not
00:12:12consult with the health insurance institute because we had an
00:12:16open discussion this when we were negotiating for these
00:12:19amendments, we will certainly not give up, next week there will be
00:12:23a protest march, probably and a blockade of
00:12:25roads, I hereby
00:12:28call on the citizens of the canton for
00:12:30understanding, but we as a union are trying with all our might
00:12:34with the competent ministry to do something and
00:12:38to simply make that service better, however, they must
00:12:41give us space in every aspect.
00:12:45The Hungarian government has suspended
00:12:53the financing of the program for the purchase of agricultural machinery for
00:12:56farmers from Republika Srpska. This program was part of
00:12:59an aid package worth 100 million euros announced
00:13:02in 2022. In cooperation between the then Prime Minister of Hungary
00:13:06Viktor Orban and the leader of SNSD Milorad Dodik. The Foundation for
00:13:09Sustainable Development, through which the program was implemented, announced that it
00:13:13is suspending the implementation of the public call for 2026. And
00:13:17after the new Hungarian government stopped
00:13:20financing. The new elections. progress of Bosnia and
00:13:24Herzegovina brings worrying news. We are moving away from the European
00:13:28path, standards and funds. While domestic
00:13:31actors continue to spin in circles of political blockades, recognition comes from Brussels that
00:13:34the usual instruments no longer work for our country. What is
00:13:38next for us? The head of the European delegation
00:13:42also officially submitted a new report on Bosnia and Herzegovina to the chairperson
00:13:45of the Council of Ministers. She had nothing to brag about, probably
00:13:49that's why we were left without a statement. That's why the ambassador
00:13:52was ready. said: you are moving away from the European path, European
00:13:56standards, but European money, he
00:13:59said.
00:14:00Essentially, this was a lost year in
00:14:03terms of tangible progress. The overall picture shows that Bosnia and Herzegovina
00:14:07is missing key opportunities and lagging behind its neighbors. Above all, it is necessary
00:14:11to eliminate what we call fundamental issues, these are
00:14:15the judiciary, the fight against corruption, freedom of expression.
00:14:18If the domestic authorities do not meet the necessary conditions for the implementation
00:14:22of the plan by the end of the year. of growth for the Western
00:14:26Balkans, they will face new reductions in funds from the European
00:14:29Union.
00:14:33A similar message comes from Brussels. Among the countries of the Western Balkans, Bosnia and
00:14:37Herzegovina is the worst. Serbia at least has a chance with a new government
00:14:40to change course. Bosnia and Herzegovina
00:14:43with difficulty.
00:14:47In this country, there is an increasing distancing from the European path.
00:14:51Key reforms related to the European Union still need to be adopted, because... The work
00:14:55of the executive and legislative authorities is further slowed down by the lack of a functional
00:14:58ruling coalition, political posturing, and the rise of inflammatory rhetoric
00:15:02and anti-European narratives ahead of the general elections. After
00:15:06the general elections held on October 4, Bosnia and Herzegovina should
00:15:09show commitment and quickly take appropriate
00:15:13steps to progress on the path towards the European
00:15:16Union. What are the priorities? We don't have a chief
00:15:19negotiator, we don't have an adopted law on the court, we don't have a law on
00:15:23the HJPC, Uh, we haven't appointed any
00:15:27coordinators for monitoring funds from the growth plan,
00:15:30we haven't brought anything to a conclusion when it comes to signing
00:15:33agreements on instruments on payment instruments, financing from
00:15:37the growth plan. Therefore, if we talk about European
00:15:40integration, it is certain that Bosnia and Herzegovina is unfortunately at
00:15:44the bottom of the region, that is, in some last place, that
00:15:48is only part of what opens the way, that Bosnia and Herzegovina will hardly
00:15:51return to it, the last statements of Milorad Dodik, whose party is recognized as one that
00:15:55blocks, also testify to this. Relations should be redefined with the European Union,
00:15:59he said, analysts warned, it doesn't work
00:16:02that way. We are not primarily against the European path.
00:16:05"but we are not for imposing
00:16:09policies on us that degrade
00:16:12and devastate Republika
00:16:15Srpska, uh, so, we participated in all of
00:16:19that before, we know that they are now insisting that
00:16:22some laws be put on the agenda again, we can talk about
00:16:26that, if it satisfies our
00:16:29positions, when it comes to European integration, Bosnia and
00:16:32Herzegovina is exclusively required to negotiate with one
00:16:36voice that certain areas should be harmonized
00:16:39so that decisions for those areas are made
00:16:43at state institutions, it is not possible
00:16:47for the entity of Republika Srpska as one of the two Bosnian-Herzegovinian
00:16:50entities within Bosnia and Herzegovina to have some
00:16:53excessive demands in order to have some mechanisms
00:16:57for negotiation in the negotiation process with the European
00:17:00Union itself. Answering the question of European parliamentarians, Marta Kost today
00:17:04said that it is obvious that for Bosnia and Herzegovina a new
00:17:07approach is needed, because the existing methodology, that is,
00:17:10financial instruments do not yield results.
00:17:14She also emphasized that the appointment of a negotiator must
00:17:18not be an obstacle to the country's progress. So,
00:17:21we remain in anticipation of a new approach. Tina
00:17:24Jalindizdar, N1.
00:17:28Bad grades from Brussels arrive at a time when Bosnia and Herzegovina is entering
00:17:31a new phase of political calculations. The Central Election
00:17:34Commission confirmed the final results of the general elections. thus
00:17:38opening the way for the formation of government from cantonal to state
00:17:41level. The deadline for the constitution of government at all
00:17:44levels is officially running. The constitutive session of the new convocation
00:17:48of the Joint Doboj Canton Assembly should be held within the next 15
00:17:52days, the ruling coalition in the assembly will, according to announcements, consist of
00:17:55SDA, Party for BiH, DF, i.e. GS and HDZ
00:17:59BiH. The Prime Minister's position again belongs to the SDA, which won the most
00:18:03mandates in six cantons in the federation. A complete recomposition
00:18:06was experienced by... the political majority in the Bihać City Council, after
00:18:10the agreement between Pomak and SDA, a new parliamentary majority was formed
00:18:13which, in addition to these two parties, also includes SBIH. Therefore, it is expected
00:18:17that the same political parties could participate in the formation
00:18:21of government at the level of Una-Sana Canton and the Federation of Bosnia and
00:18:24Herzegovina. After the Central Election Commission issues certificates,
00:18:27within 10 days, the session of the Assembly of
00:18:30Bosnian-Podrinje Canton will also be constituted. The government will be formed by nine parties, and
00:18:34led by the SDA. The first meeting after the official announcement of election
00:18:38results was held by delegations of SD, DF and SBI,
00:18:41stating that they want to build the future government at the state, federal and cantonal levels without the trio.
00:18:45The establishment of a new parliamentary majority
00:18:48at all levels is only possible with
00:18:51parties that were in opposition in the 2022-
00:18:5426 mandate. SDP,
00:18:57BiH will not be an appendage of SDA or any other political party,
00:19:01it will only enter government as an equal political partner, says the head
00:19:04of this party and the Prime Minister. of the federation, we have our election results, we will stick
00:19:08to our election results, if there are
00:19:12partners who want to form a government with
00:19:15the SDP, then that government will be
00:19:19established and we will participate in it as an equal partner.
00:19:22However, for SNSD leader Milorad Dodik, there is no
00:19:26place in the state government for the Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina. He conditioned
00:19:29his party's participation at the level of Bosnia and Herzegovina on the reform of
00:19:33the Constitutional Court of Bosnia and Herzegovina and the revision of decisions of high
00:19:37representatives. We reject the practice. of the Constitutional Court in
00:19:40the last 10 years, which was not a constitutional court, it was
00:19:43an inquisitorial court, we cannot continue to work at the level of Bosnia and
00:19:47Herzegovina with foreign judges in the Constitutional Court. Although it is
00:19:51still unknown which parties will join them, it is certain that the role of
00:19:54SNSD, SDA and HDZ in forming the state government in
00:19:58accordance with the election results will be dominant. Everything
00:20:01else is in question, as we know, I mean, we had this
00:20:04situation before where we had different. coalitions at
00:20:08different levels, uh, I mean, in
00:20:11the federation it will also be quite difficult
00:20:14to form this ruling coalition without the SDP
00:20:18that the intensification of negotiations will be continued especially after
00:20:21the official announcement of the results of the general elections by the Central Election
00:20:25Commission of Bosnia and Herzegovina, announced earlier the leader
00:20:28of HDZ Bosnia and Herzegovina Dragan Čović. He said that a meeting of the election
00:20:32winners could follow after the official announcement,
00:20:35referring to representatives of SDA, his party and
00:20:39SNSD. Tatjana Drljić,
00:20:42N1.
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00:24:58on the draft law have been submitted, according to the response to N1 from the Ministry
00:25:02of Civil Affairs. Except for the opinion of the Ministry of Finance and Treasury
00:25:06of BiH. They point out that the Government of the Federation of BiH and the Government of Brčko District
00:25:09in their opinions on the draft law had no objections to
00:25:13the foreseen allocation of at least 0.2% of budget
00:25:16funds from their budgets. While the Ministry
00:25:19of Finance of the Republic of Srpska does not find it acceptable to determine the amount of funds for demining
00:25:23by percentage.
00:25:25The new law brings modernization
00:25:27of terminology and the professional framework of anti-mine action,
00:25:31by introducing modern concepts, additional regulation of areas that were not
00:25:34sufficiently covered by the existing law. The solutions from
00:25:38the draft are based on international standards for anti-mine
00:25:42action, which are continuously developed and updated. In Bosnia
00:25:45and Herzegovina, based on existing laws. Domestic standards
00:25:49and standard operating procedures that BHMac prepares
00:25:52and updates have already been developed, the new legal framework should
00:25:56further improve their application and ensure the harmonization
00:25:59of the entire system with international
00:26:03standards. Therefore, it is about comprehensive regulation of the area
00:26:07of anti-mine action with a special emphasis on sustainable financing,
00:26:11protection and rights of persons who perform risky jobs
00:26:14and modernization of the system in accordance with international standards.
00:26:18The expected results of the application of new legal solutions are the
00:26:21creation of more stable institutional and financial
00:26:24assumptions for accelerating demining, more efficient
00:26:28achievement of the goal of Bosnia and Herzegovina to become a country
00:26:31free of mine danger.
00:26:34In Bosnia and Herzegovina, demining is not recognized as a profession of
00:26:38special public interest, high risk and exceptional social
00:26:42importance. In the last two years, deminers have been massively losing their jobs
00:26:46because foreign donors have withdrawn. How this
00:26:49legal unregulatedness affects deminers, we will discuss
00:26:52with Slavenko Jovović, who, you won't
00:26:55believe, has as many as 41 years of service, and cannot
00:26:59retire. Slavenko, good day and thank you for speaking to N1. Yes. Good
00:27:02day, thank you for the invitation, greetings to your viewers. We talked
00:27:06about eight months ago when it was most relevant, that is,
00:27:09the withdrawal of foreign investors. You then
00:27:12told us exactly this information, that is, 41 years of service, you cannot
00:27:16retire, before you answer us why and
00:27:20how it happened, what happened in these eight months, anything? Well, concretely,
00:27:23nothing, for 30 years we have the same problem
00:27:27in demining, the basic problems, two problems.
00:27:31Key donations, because we live
00:27:34exclusively from donations, so that deminers in Bosnia and Herzegovina, service
00:27:38years, connecting service years, paying benefits,
00:27:41these are two burning problems that we've been circling for 30 years,
00:27:45in a circle. Your compensated service years have been paid, but
00:27:48for many they haven't. Yes, yes, I was lucky that I worked for
00:27:52three, three companies, so to speak, during my working life, from the Army of Republika
00:27:56Srpska and the Armed Forces of Bosnia and Herzegovina when they
00:27:59united, I continued one. in stop mines
00:28:02and in Norwegian People's Aid, all three companies, meaning
00:28:05four, well, let's call the army,
00:28:08since we united together, we all
00:28:11paid regular service years and benefits, meaning
00:28:14I didn't have to chase through court or anyone
00:28:17else for a single day. Why can't you then retire? I can't retire
00:28:21because the law of Republika Srpska does not
00:28:25recognize the profession of a deminer, meaning I have
00:28:27service years, paid benefits, and all that. It stands,
00:28:31but you need years of life, years of age already, that is, 57
00:28:35years, that's right, 57 years, I already have eight years
00:28:38of benefits, from my 65 years,
00:28:41when that is taken into account, that benefit is deducted retroactively
00:28:44and that's it. That's why this law is important, if
00:28:48it were adopted, if it were adopted, you would already be retired,
00:28:52in retirement, you would have a good pension, because this law precisely provides for taking these best
00:28:56years, so I think, I hope
00:28:59again that all three
00:29:03governments, both the Government of Republika Srpska and the Government of the Federation, the Government
00:29:06of Brčko District, will find a way to somehow
00:29:09rectify this injustice that has been done to deminers for 30 years, because
00:29:12this law would mean a lot for everyone, for all deminers in Bosnia and
00:29:16Herzegovina, excluding me now to speak only for myself, let's
00:29:19say you essentially, we'll say you did well when it comes to
00:29:23this beneficial service, because it was paid, but can you give us some examples, you don't
00:29:27have to mention names of everything that people
00:29:31went through? What did people go through, how many years did they work and
00:29:35how much was paid to them? Well, you see,
00:29:37you have a problem, there were many different companies,
00:29:41here in Bosnia and Herzegovina that operated, you have people
00:29:44who worked for 30 years since '96 who work
00:29:47as deminers, spent their working life
00:29:50demining, maybe they have now 15, 20 years of service,
00:29:54then people have to go through courts,
00:29:57they have to ask those companies to pay them in various
00:30:01ways and "This job is difficult, perhaps among the most difficult
00:30:05jobs in Bosnia and Herzegovina to have someone to do, hmm, what
00:30:08I want to say, I want this
00:30:11deminer, first you must be physically and mentally
00:30:15capable for this work in order to work, not
00:30:18plus to have some other problems, whether your service years will be paid, whether we will
00:30:22pay benefits, whether you have to wait, because these are people who go
00:30:25to the field for 30 years, you are separated from
00:30:28your family, you go for 12, 15 days, you work on..."
00:30:32one and such things, you experienced losses
00:30:36during your career, you saw all that with your own eyes, 20, 30
00:30:40years of such work, well, that's essentially it, but we're still circling around the
00:30:43same problems, 30 years, so the essence is that, at the
00:30:47core, all the problems are the same, after 20 years in the field, some
00:30:51are now in a situation due to layoffs, due to everything, in their
00:30:5450s they practically start from scratch, to try to get
00:30:58a job anywhere now.