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00:03:11The arrest of Marko Kricka comes almost half a year after
00:03:14the murder in Senjak, and just a week after
00:03:17the elections, the head of the Higher Public Prosecutor's Office, Nenad Stefanović, claims that
00:03:21there is no connection between Kricka's arrest and the election
00:03:24results. Internal conflict in security
00:03:28structures, distancing from... police loyalists of the previous
00:03:31regime or a step towards achieving justice, what do the findings
00:03:35of the radar, which echoed on Sunday, reveal to us? This
00:03:38morning's guest is the former inspector of the Criminal Police Directorate,
00:03:42Milan Dumanović. Mr. Dumanović, good day, thank you for being here. Good day. Good
00:03:46day. Uh, now, uh, let's not ignore the statement
00:03:49of the higher public prosecutor, uh, how do you see the election
00:03:53results as uh,
00:03:55a context that perhaps accelerated the process within the Ministry of Interior, and are
00:03:59we witnessing something that is
00:04:02spontaneously uh controlled or uncontrolled
00:04:05breakdown of the previous system and hierarchy within the security
00:04:09structures? This is an uncontrolled breakdown
00:04:11and but in it we have in this
00:04:14in this period in which the effective power should be taken over
00:04:18by the new, i.e. those who
00:04:21won the elections, we have some who
00:04:24are trying, it happens daily, every hour, every
00:04:28day since the results were announced, they are trying to switch
00:04:32to this side, that's how I see what happened yesterday with the arrest
00:04:35of Marko Kricka, given that Neja Stefanović is
00:04:39a man who has been silent for years about everything that was happening, first Neja
00:04:42Stefanović would never have been in that position if it weren't for the Serbian Progressive
00:04:45Party, let's be clear, so that must be said clearly and loudly,
00:04:49a man who was unprovoked
00:04:52came to that position, a man who defended the Serbian Progressive Party and all
00:04:55the crimes they committed against the citizens of the Republic of Serbia, so he covered
00:04:59all that up. And his department for combating corruption
00:05:02and so on, and he, he is the arrest of Marko
00:05:06Kricka and that, well, imagine, according to a criminal
00:05:10complaint filed by a lawyer. This
00:05:13person is trying to prove how he is now suddenly
00:05:16working, this, uh, I, I would immediately add
00:05:20that uh, that with Mr. Nenad
00:05:23Stefanović, the case that he
00:05:27uh closed, the sonic weapon, needs to be reopened to see if it was really
00:05:31used, because I don't believe them at all, I mean, neither do I nor
00:05:34probably most of the public in Serbia, so that higher public
00:05:38prosecutor's office. As for Marko Kricka, so
00:05:41Veselin Milić, they are part of the same system, absolutely, so
00:05:45both of them, so they should be where Marko Kricka ended up yesterday, and
00:05:49what's interesting, you mentioned that based on the complaint of lawyer Veselin
00:05:53Milić, actually Marko Kricka became
00:05:56known to the public let's say
00:05:59at the moment when student
00:06:02Nikolina Sinđelić after a protest
00:06:05brought up uh allegations, i.e. conveyed
00:06:08accusations, actually, I apologize, that Marko
00:06:12Kricka even threatened rape, we have no
00:06:16proceedings for that case, so Marko Kricka
00:06:20is now being arrested for some other case, Senjak,
00:06:23which has a lot of contradictions all these
00:06:26months, precisely what prosecutor Stefanović said,
00:06:30that it has nothing to do with the elections, it absolutely has to do with the elections, Marko Kricka would not have
00:06:34been arrested if the election results had been different, simple
00:06:37thing, so he was arrested by these policemen who did not
00:06:41act for years. They did not act on citizens' reports
00:06:45against, for example, Marko Kricka and all his associates, there are as many of them in the MUP as
00:06:48you want, so that's what, that's what is happening
00:06:52now, so
00:06:54uh
00:06:57everything related to solving therefore those
00:07:01proceedings that we had and those affairs and
00:07:04those criminal acts and enormous crime, actually
00:07:07overall that existed all the time while the Serbian Progressive Party was in
00:07:11power, must work. uh the new government must work,
00:07:14so only when we establish new bodies, so we bring new prosecutors
00:07:18into the police, in the police we get a new director, a new
00:07:22minister, his advisors, only then can we start the fight
00:07:25against this, truly
00:07:28a fight against crime, what happened yesterday, that is not, so it is simply not
00:07:32because Neja Stefanović, I say, this Marko
00:07:35Kricka, Boško Sekulović,
00:07:38and those two brought in for informational interviews, so for... the deputy
00:07:44and and this, yes, the deputy head of SBPOK, because he was never officially appointed to
00:07:47the position of head of SBPOK, Marko Safirović, because the prosecutor did not agree,
00:07:51the prosecutor for organized crime must agree for someone to be able to become
00:07:54this head and this
00:07:58Marić, svi oni su deo istog sistema i oni moraju sutra da napuste mogu da li
00:08:02onda to vidite kao nestao je politički kišobran pa se
00:08:05žrtvuje jedan radiostatka o tako je naravno naravno
00:08:08ovaj ovih dana dakle ja ne mogu sad da
00:08:11iznosim... "šta ja dobijam koje informacije koje kakve ja
00:08:15pozive dobijam a znam da ih dobijaju i ljudi za koje se
00:08:18pretpostavlja da će sutra biti najviši rukovodioci
00:08:22mupa, dakle to je da svi pokušavaju ovaj da
00:08:25jedne uh da da do juče najbolje najbriži saradnici
00:08:29sad pokušavaju da operu tu svoju biografiju, ali što neće moći zato
00:08:32što to to nije igranje, to nije
00:08:35crime they committed and they will have to
00:08:39answer, so I call on everyone to follow in the coming..." days what
00:08:43is happening, we really need to help these new uh
00:08:47let's say new authorities in the fight against that crime because
00:08:50it is incredible, so in the MUP alone you have such
00:08:53a number of people who have committed criminal acts, I will just
00:08:57remind your viewers if I may, so uh
00:09:01the department for the department for observation
00:09:04which is now called that, that is the department where I worked, so abbreviated OZO,
00:09:08so it is led by Branislav Milenković who worked in JZO with Marko Kricka
00:09:12and became head, that is, yes, head of the intelligence
00:09:15affairs section, participated in that beating, he is in those photographs and
00:09:19video recordings, this uh, beating
00:09:22of students from August last year, so that is
00:09:25the man, that is, that department is uh,
00:09:29completely, and I got that as testimony,
00:09:32they secretly followed Miša Ognjanović, what will we do about
00:09:36that? Well, people, they led the man to
00:09:38murder, yes, that's what should be done with those people, we should...
00:09:44Do you think the new government can count on, so to speak,
00:09:47clean inspectors within the UKP who would be willing
00:09:51to prosecute their former colleagues? Yes, there are
00:09:54enough of them, uh, are there enough
00:09:57of them, I'm not entirely sure, so but
00:10:00there are people outside the MUP who
00:10:03uh, due to circumstances, had to leave the MUP, so they were forced
00:10:07to leave, people who were retired who must
00:10:11return in some way. This, how
00:10:14could we carry out the reform, because without it, there's nothing,
00:10:18uh, uh, I, I constantly try to
00:10:21explain to people that if it weren't for these people in the MUP, first of all,
00:10:25this MUP, of course, we wouldn't even
00:10:28have this government at all, so the regime
00:10:31and politics are one thing, but when that regime starts
00:10:35working and starts dealing with crime, who is there to prosecute that,
00:10:38so the prosecution, the police, that's it, they
00:10:42are, they, they are all part of one mafia criminal regime and they all must
00:10:46leave. Oh, when we talk about those big cases, for example,
00:10:49Kričak has now been arrested in connection with the Senjak case,
00:10:53we will remember that... "the Higher Public
00:10:57Prosecutor's Office almost daily issued some
00:11:00statements that were contradictory to each other, and still
00:11:03regarding that case we have many ambiguities, as well as about
00:11:06the role of Veselin Milić in that
00:11:09case where the initial accusations were changed,
00:11:13then they were later changed, and now it is said that Kričak, therefore,
00:11:16that the cameras were not, the evidence was not
00:11:19delivered in a timely manner, and so on and so forth, uh, how much
00:11:23now in this transition. and before that, those processes can
00:11:27have a fair epilogue if we take into
00:11:30account potential contamination of
00:11:34evidentiary material, influence possibly on
00:11:37witnesses, on the whole process, uh,
00:11:41that whole, that whole procedure that you say
00:11:44must follow some legal procedure, so
00:11:48the assembly must be formed, the government must,
00:11:51other bodies must take over for all of that to be... legal when
00:11:55it starts, when taking those steps starts, for us to start
00:11:59cleaning this state
00:12:03organs, so related to security, so here
00:12:06Veselin Milić specifically, so what is now being charged to Kričak,
00:12:10that has nothing to do with what Veselin Milić has before the first
00:12:13basic court, what he will have in the trial, so
00:12:16the man, the first man of the Belgrade police, in the end only
00:12:20that was charged to him, he did not report that a murder had happened, that
00:12:24man... that man should not even be in the MUP, he should have
00:12:27been, he should have been prosecuted, not prosecuted,
00:12:31but expelled from the MUP, I have to use that word,
00:12:34and he still sits in the MUP, but the first reactions
00:12:38of the top authorities then were very harsh towards Veselin
00:12:41Milić, then they gradually softened as
00:12:44the framework of the proceedings
00:12:48changed, well because that speaks of his, his
00:12:52strength, which was institutional, I apologize for that. Because
00:12:55Veselin Milić expected different election results, completely different
00:12:59and he wanted to arrest Marko
00:13:02Kričak, uh, to be the new
00:13:05police director, which will be, what is this about? It has been talked about for some
00:13:09time, and then in that Senjak case, but of course also before that,
00:13:13about some different factions
00:13:15within the security structures, primarily within
00:13:19different police units. Now you
00:13:21are making such a claim that he would...
00:13:25possibly arrest Marko Kričak, what kind of
00:13:28conflict within those structures is this about? About
00:13:32a conflict in which, uh, someone
00:13:35has to curry favor with the main one, that is, we all knew
00:13:39who it was, Aleksandar Vučić, to be closest to Aleksandar Vučić
00:13:42so that he can manage, control
00:13:46everything that happens in the security system, because that was very important to
00:13:49the previous government, and for that he receives great benefits, what
00:13:53your viewers must know, and I'm sure they already know,
00:13:57so uh,
00:14:00the main truth here is that they are all part of the same system, so none of
00:14:03them who advanced in 2014 in the security
00:14:06system, I'm talking about the MUP especially, is
00:14:10clean, so they all came only because they
00:14:13had the support of the SNS, no one
00:14:17could be appointed if they were not suitable, loyal
00:14:20to the ruling party, so that never happened before,
00:14:24so no... "You can invite as many guests as you want, this
00:14:28colleague of mine will tell you that our employments, so
00:14:31employments in the MUP, and every further promotion, were never like
00:14:35they were in the previous 12 years when they were in power,
00:14:39so Marko Kricka, let's remind the citizens, Marko Kricka
00:14:42came as a car salesman or manager, whatever he was at Porsche, and
00:14:46with seven years of experience, he took over the criminal police department,
00:14:49the people he manages in the MUP are people with 20,
00:14:5325 years of experience. "and some of his subordinates
00:14:56arrested him, well, some yes,
00:14:59they didn't dare all these years, then they
00:15:03used that period when they could, so
00:15:06that it's all just their game that simply won't
00:15:10pass, I say that
00:15:13personally, I am personally very satisfied
00:15:17with what I hear and what will happen in the Ministry of Internal
00:15:20Affairs, there are many colleagues, so a huge number of colleagues who support
00:15:24these new changes and expect all these people to be
00:15:27removed from the MUP, to be dismissed and for finally
00:15:31some healthy leadership to take over the MUP, yes, but we all have to help them
00:15:35in that, and while that game lasts, do you have any knowledge that at this
00:15:39moment in the MUP there might
00:15:42be panic and who actually controls the key databases, secret files?
00:15:46Panic, panic and fear are
00:15:49enormous, I personally could hear and see that,
00:15:52uh, but of the leaders, so as for the
00:15:56perpetrators, my colleagues, our colleagues, so they are more than
00:15:59happy that this happened and that and especially they hope that it
00:16:03will happen in the future, and as for the data...
00:16:07and there was some
00:16:10destruction, however, a lot has been
00:16:13preserved, I have information from my friends that the
00:16:17Security Information Agency, i.e. its members, managed to
00:16:20save almost the entire documentation, so
00:16:23this, you saw the case of
00:16:26wiretapping judges, so yes, prosecutors, the prosecutor's office for
00:16:30organized crime including Mladen Nenadić, not to, not to
00:16:34quote, those are radar findings, so yes, in that context. So
00:16:37we know that some data about
00:16:41those who criticized the government, so
00:16:45private matters were released to
00:16:48compromise critics of the government, that the Security
00:16:51and Information Agency, as our guests often say,
00:16:54was misused for such needs
00:16:58instead of doing its job, uh, so
00:17:02collecting intelligence data in the interest of the state
00:17:05and this society. How do you see that the reform
00:17:09of the Security Information Agency, which is constantly
00:17:12talked about as one of the
00:17:15biggest problems when those structures are
00:17:19concerned, should come about? Security, I saw what
00:17:22Appellate Court Judge Milimir Lukić said and I completely agree,
00:17:26I've been talking about that for seven or eight years since your colleagues first
00:17:29called me, so the Security Information Agency must be
00:17:33completely demolished and we should create some new agency, some
00:17:37new service, whatever someone has already called it, so I am not
00:17:41skilled enough, there are many people who deal with that who
00:17:45also want that, but simply this can no longer
00:17:48exist, so that service doesn't know what
00:17:51it's for, it really doesn't know, this, if you, if
00:17:54you, uh, if you come to some service that should
00:17:58be an elite service and you allow yourself
00:18:01that someone can order you and you agree to listen to
00:18:05judges, prosecutors, well... colleagues, police officers, journalists and what
00:18:09not, well, then you know nothing, you learned nothing, you
00:18:13have to leave there, there are those models, so
00:18:16there are various models, dismissals, uh,
00:18:20commissions, re-employment and so on, but simply that service must
00:18:24cease to exist, uh, because that legacy, so
00:18:28the RDB, UDBA, that never fell apart, so they
00:18:31just took over and changed the name in 2002 when they
00:18:34were formed under that name or 2003, they took over the same
00:18:38building, the same facilities, all that must collapse, just as I say, so I
00:18:42will, I will constantly, as much as I can, criticize the new government if it doesn't do what
00:18:45it should in the MUP, so people can no longer stay, so we cannot
00:18:49forget what those people did, look, now these
00:18:53new authorities are being flattered by people like that Grebić, Vladimir, who
00:18:57signed some appeal, the man is, our colleagues,
00:19:00that is, my colleagues, can testify what he did, so
00:19:04our colleagues on the road stop some person who they immediately... call for
00:19:07him, calls and he says let him go, now that man signs in 2017, again we are talking
00:19:11about OZO, about that department, now that man signs an appeal, what kind of
00:19:15appeal are you signing? Well, that time, where to talk about the appeal
00:19:18that members of security services signed before
00:19:21the elections, to act according to the law, his photograph
00:19:25in the same, this, in the same, uh,
00:19:28pardon, uh, at the Partizan stadium, in the lodge with
00:19:32Belivuk and the crew, and that man signs an appeal, or Nikola
00:19:36Popović or someone like that. Now these people are trying to get through again, but they won't
00:19:39succeed. And you are now mentioning 2017, let's go back two more years,
00:19:432015, Milan Trbović, you went through
00:19:47years of persecution because of the
00:19:50Potočari case, uh, today in new social circumstances, uh, is
00:19:53it time for institutional rehabilitation of
00:19:56police officers, inspectors, whistleblowers like Katarina Petrović and
00:20:00Aleksandar Obradović who is not in the security system, but they suffered
00:20:03because they defended the law, how can the state...
00:20:07extend, I think that question, it's good that you
00:20:11ask it, but it's not for me, and as for these colleagues you mentioned, so
00:20:15Katarina Petrović, absolutely, the woman
00:20:18is still working, so I also supported
00:20:21publicly where I could that request
00:20:25of students and the student list in Valjevo for her to be immediately reinstated,
00:20:29so and so the system has in her
00:20:32case very easily, so an extraordinary promotion for her to really
00:20:36get something because she showed, she showed that we need such police officers,
00:20:39so Serbia should have such police officers, that is, the MUP, not, not some
00:20:43others. As for Mladen Trbović and me, I can tell you
00:20:47on behalf of both of us, so our satisfaction will only come when... when
00:20:50we see that these people who are criminals within
00:20:53the MUP are held accountable, that is our, that is our satisfaction, and just
00:20:57briefly, there are great expectations that after the change of power
00:21:01justice will come to all structures, especially in security ones, you
00:21:05mentioned some who you say cannot boast of
00:21:08professionalism, do you think
00:21:11it is possible to completely cleanse that
00:21:15system and only those who are in accordance with the law and do we have the capacity
00:21:19to completely exclude those who have
00:21:22suddenly, so to speak, changed sides? We
00:21:25have the capacity, but we need, so the public to be
00:21:29fully involved, so that we first open it to the public,
00:21:32that uh, even if the pressure is like these days
00:21:36to continue, so because this fight cannot last three months,
00:21:40six months, a year or five years, this must last constantly until
00:21:44we don't renew that system so that our students
00:21:47at the military, at the police, pardon, academy, uh, learn
00:21:51how this must never happen again. Thank you very much for
00:21:55this conversation, this was our topic of the morning and guest
00:21:58Milan Dumanović, retired inspector.
00:22:21In Nova newspaper on Monday, read: Vučić has been overthrown,
00:22:24but a harder task follows, changing the system. The governor and
00:22:28the National Bank of Serbia bear responsibility for the collapse and bankruptcy of Alta
00:22:31Bank. The arrest of Marko Kričak as a continuation of a small dispute among
00:22:34loyalists. Buy, photograph, share, and support
00:22:38Nova Newspaper. Don't let them
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00:22:42I'm Tanja Veselinović, watch
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00:22:48Watch Dan U. Live today from 4:30 PM.
00:30:19Good afternoon, this is N1 news at 4 PM, I am Ivana
00:30:22Terzić, here's an overview of the most important events
00:30:24of the day.
00:30:29Davor Macura was ordered to be detained by the prosecutor's office.
00:30:32for organized crime Tok announced that three people were arrested in
00:30:36connection with the removal of money, previously the search
00:30:39of Alta Bank lasted from Saturday and bankruptcy was
00:30:42declared.
00:30:45Hearings continue in connection with the Senjak case and the arrest
00:30:48of the head of the Criminal Police Department, Marko
00:30:50Kričak.
00:30:53The list of Usame Zukurlić, the Movement for Unification, managed
00:30:57to enter parliament and will have one post.