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00:02:10the Arab leaders in tried to follow this Dear viewers, peace, mercy, and blessings of God be upon you, and welcome
00:02:14to a new episode of the "Today's File"
00:02:17program, in which we will follow in its first part
00:02:21the midterm elections in the United States of America
00:02:25and what happened with the
00:02:27to form a government. This does not Democrats taking control of these
00:02:31Lieberman within this elections in Congress, in both
00:02:34any Arab support from
00:02:34within both parties. In its chambers, the Senate and the House of Representatives, as well as
00:02:38the success of representatives
00:02:41in states and cities
00:02:46and we have started to see its impact on that have not seen such a strong presence of Democrats for many years, with this strength
00:02:50that occurred, and this influx and enthusiasm from
00:02:53the Arab members in the American voter in light of
00:02:56what the recent years have witnessed in terms of
00:03:00conditions that greatly affected their lives. We are pleased to
00:03:03host with us from Washington via Zoom Dr.
00:03:07Hanna Hanan, an activist in Palestinian-American
00:03:18Washington, but you came from Michigan. Please
00:03:22tell us, first, about the atmosphere that this
00:03:26about 10 to 15% of state was experiencing and the
00:03:28Congress, and almost 10 of fierce competition led by Abdel Rahman Al-Sayed.
00:03:31The atmosphere was very fierce, and there were very
00:03:35big battles between the candidates, and the atmosphere in the state was
00:03:38an electoral atmosphere par excellence,
00:03:42at least 48 policies to be used in as you could see most of the candidates' rallies, festivals, and campaigns all over the state,
00:03:46and there was a very large popular participation in these
00:03:50elections, as it was one of
00:03:53within both chambers of the highest, and the Palestinian issue was very
00:03:56implications as well in present, especially since the Democratic candidate was one of the candidates considered
00:04:01the change happening with to be supporters of the rights of the Palestinian
00:04:02unions or even with people, so it was clear in
00:04:05laws or decisions that he the election campaign, and the participation of the Arab community, which represents about 4% of
00:04:09the state, was very large. Yes, Dr.
00:04:12Hanna, the language of discourse that was used
00:04:16and addressed the American by
00:04:19Abdel Rahman Al-Sayed focused on his
00:04:23as Biden also did in social life, the money that goes out
00:04:26without benefit to other places for conflicts
00:04:30and wars, and should be for Americans. How much did it contribute
00:04:33to, I mean, this in addition to the policies
00:04:36used by the Trump administration,
00:04:40contributed greatly to his victory in these elections,
00:04:44and there are other factors that contributed to his victory in the
00:04:47elections. His opposing candidate tried to change
00:04:50the way of elections and to move away from
00:04:52for the administration on this
00:04:54elections, what we call the primaries, happened these matters and to focus on his origins, his religion, his principles,
00:04:58and his support for the Palestinian
00:05:00people. These positions were tried to be highlighted
00:05:03in a way that was not good, but it reflected a very
00:05:09God willing, we will start to see more significant development, as in the end they won or won by a very large margin. I mean, it was a historic day
00:05:12par excellence for someone who has been working in American politics for
00:05:1633 years. I never expected that we would reach
00:05:20this stage in the American elections, or where
00:05:25the American elections was, first, a political earthquake in the United
00:05:28States, an earthquake against President Trump and a call for
00:05:32change in his policies.
00:05:35But for us, as defenders of the rights of the Palestinian
00:05:38people, this was a historic day par excellence, and this should be
00:05:42the day that will lead to a major change in American
00:05:45policy. In fact, words cannot express our
00:05:48happiness and joy about what happened, and they do not express
00:05:52the historical meaning of the achievement that happened yesterday, which was not just
00:05:56Aboud alone. There were several other candidates who won
00:05:59the elections, and this will
00:06:02pave the way for the presidential elections in two years, and will
00:06:06pave the way for the Palestinian, Arab, and Islamic communities
00:06:09and defenders of the rights of the Palestinian people
00:06:14the next elections, God willing. I mean, this
00:06:18achievement by the Democrats
00:06:22Congress in both chambers, the Senate and the House of Representatives, what meanings
00:06:25does it carry, Dr.
00:06:27Hanna?
00:06:33I want to focus more, I will not focus on its meaning for the American people, but we can come back
00:06:37to this later. Many
00:06:40Democratic Party leaders used to say that a candidate who supports
00:06:44the Palestinian people will not be able to succeed in states like
00:06:48Michigan, where they used to say that these candidates
00:06:51can succeed in states where Democrats
00:06:54dominate, but swing states cannot
00:06:58elect a person who supports the Palestinian people in this way.
00:07:02But what yesterday's elections proved is that this talk
00:07:05is wrong, and that on the contrary, a person who supports the rights of the Palestinian
00:07:08people can succeed and succeed easily in these
00:07:11states. And yesterday we saw developments that we had not
00:07:15witnessed, I mean, in the history of American politics. For example, President
00:07:18Trump's statement yesterday morning before the elections that he would stop
00:07:22aid to Israel, this is a very historic thing. Usually, they used to
00:07:26compete over who would give more aid. And also,
00:07:29what the Vice President said today, where he said that a large
00:07:33part of Republicans did not vote for the Republican Party, and he
00:07:36put one of the four main reasons
00:07:40as the United States' relations with Israel. So for us,
00:07:43this means a historic day par excellence
00:07:47the past, we used to talk about relations within one party,
00:07:51but what happened yesterday showed that supporting the Palestinian people
00:07:54has become something on the popular base, something big,
00:07:59the American elections. There is one last step, which is
00:08:02that we start to see it in foreign policy,
00:08:05and I believe, after yesterday's leap,
00:08:08it has become very difficult not to reach a change in foreign
00:08:12policy. And let's say most of
00:08:15the candidates who won, whom we were supporting, and their
00:08:18number is about 20 candidates, these support the rights of the Palestinian
00:08:21people completely, completely, and there will be
00:08:25about 40 new members of Congress,
00:08:28and they are better than the existing members to varying
00:08:31degrees, but they are better by several degrees,
00:08:35most of them, and this total is
00:08:40the House, almost 10 to 19% of the Senate. We are talking
00:08:44about a very big development and a historic
00:08:47step. Does it mean that the concept
00:08:50that money
00:08:54and sweet talk no longer work
00:08:57with the American voter? Has the message reached politicians in this
00:09:01way? 100%. I mean, if you remember,
00:09:04in previous meetings months ago, we were talking about the change happening
00:09:08in the popular base, the change happening with students,
00:09:15churches. But we always used to say that there is no
00:09:18change in politicians, all members of Congress are our enemies and so
00:09:22on. But, I mean, today, and I am comfortable, maybe
00:09:26I told you once before that it might take us 10 years to reach a stage where there is
00:09:30a change in Congress. Today, on the contrary, after what happened yesterday,
00:09:33it is clear that we have made several steps forward, and it is clear that the change that
00:09:37exists on the street has started to show its results on, let's
00:09:40say, politicians. Of course, I mean, it will still take
00:09:44time for its results to appear on foreign policy, because President
00:09:47Trump still controls a large group of foreign
00:09:50policies, but there will be an impact in these
00:09:54two years, but more importantly,
00:09:57it has become possible for a candidate to come and say that he supports the Palestinian
00:10:00people and to show that he can win elections,
00:10:04and elections in a swing state.
00:10:07How decisive was the role of youth in these elections, Dr.
00:10:10Hanna? The generation.
00:10:14I mean, young people were the decisive factor in these elections.
00:10:17Young people are the ones who are changing and changing,
00:10:21especially in the Republican Party. I mean, in the Republican Party, and I never
00:10:25expected that I would say that we would see this change happening,
00:10:30Republicans who will not go and vote for the Republican Party because of
00:10:33the President's policy towards Israel, and especially among
00:10:36young people, we are seeing a very big change, even among the Jewish
00:10:40community, we are seeing a change. I mean, they tried
00:10:45the United States, in Michigan, against Abdul
00:10:49and not to elect Abdul because of his foreign policy, but the numbers show that
00:10:54the men...
00:10:57I mean, once I was at a festival they held, a group
00:11:01of them, there were about 200 volunteers coming from other
00:11:04states to help Abdul in his election
00:11:06campaign. The failure of 50 million dollars
00:11:10to bring down Abdel Rahman Al-Sayed, what do these
00:11:13numbers mean? I mean, we are quoting them as published by American
00:11:16media. And most likely it will be more than that,
00:11:20but a lot of it is also money that is not visible. I mean, Abdel Rahman had
00:11:26the elections to get money out of elections, because they are
00:11:30used to being able to change a lot of foreign policies with money,
00:11:33and there was intimidation of members of Congress that if they did not
00:11:37go along with them the way they wanted them to, they would launch large
00:11:40election campaigns against them and they could
00:11:43fund them with large amounts of money. But yesterday's
00:11:46elections in Michigan with Abdel Rahman, in Texas,
00:11:50and in several other states showed that if the
00:11:53voter knows what he is doing, this money did not affect
00:11:57him. I mean, I'll give you an example. I was in Michigan, I turned on the TV
00:12:00on Monday morning, there were maybe four ads in a row,
00:12:04all showing Abdel Rahman Al-Sayed as a terrorist.
00:12:08I mean, frankly, anyone who doesn't know him, just by seeing these ads,
00:12:11will involuntarily start to think that he is a terrorist. So they
00:12:14invested a lot, they tried very
00:12:18hard to silence him. For them, it was a battle of victory because
00:12:21for them, they wanted to prove that a person who supports the rights
00:12:25of the Palestinian people cannot succeed in elections in order
00:12:29to pave the way for the upcoming presidential elections. And the
00:12:32Democratic Party itself
00:12:35approach, and they also followed it not only in Michigan,
00:12:38but also in Florida, and they tried to say that
00:12:41always if the person is not one of what they call the centrists or
00:12:45the establishment, he will not succeed in general elections.
00:12:49But, I mean, Abdel Rahman proved that this talk is wrong.
00:12:52Yesterday he overturned your concepts among the American
00:12:56people, and those who try to buy allegiances with money. I mean, it started
00:13:00to break. So, I mean, Kansas winning
00:13:03a Democrat for the first time since 1932.
00:13:06I mean, how do you see that, Dr. Hanna? There is
00:13:10great anger among the American people against President
00:13:13Trump's policies, and in fact, yesterday's elections were
00:13:17a referendum by the American people on President
00:13:20Trump's policies. The American people are feeling exorbitant
00:13:23prices, very, very high prices. They feel that a large
00:13:27part of this inflation was fabricated, a large
00:13:30part of it, the rise in gasoline prices, which is due to the war on
00:13:33Iran, and remember that President Trump, when he ran his election campaign,
00:13:37he was campaigning as the president who would prevent wars, and many
00:13:41people, especially in Michigan, many people were upset about this issue, and they were
00:13:45saying that he promised us he wouldn't start wars, but he started a war, and we are the ones who are
00:13:48paying the price of this war. At the same time, the tariffs
00:13:51he imposed greatly affected the economic
00:13:55lives of ordinary people, and for them, it was
00:13:58a vote of anger yesterday against these policies that are
00:14:02affecting their lives, that's why the Democrats won in
00:14:05strongholds that, I mean, no one expected them to win like
00:14:09that in Kansas, Texas. I mean, the margin they won by in Texas
00:14:13was something they haven't seen in years, and they didn't just win the Senate, they won the governor,
00:14:16and they won many, I mean, other races. I mean,
00:14:20it was an earthquake in the American political movement.
00:14:22Yes. Dr. Hanna, let me
00:14:25ask you, I mean, in light of, I mean, the moment
00:14:29of optimism and the process of success, have
00:14:31the Democrats understood the message that whoever deviates from the line, and we saw
00:14:35a day before the elections, the appearance of one of
00:14:38the, I mean, candidates who showed her betrayal
00:14:41of the party and went in another direction, have they understood
00:14:45the message that whoever deviates from the line,
00:14:48the war on Gaza, have they truly understood
00:14:51that whoever deviates from the will of the peoples
00:14:55loses? God willing, I mean, this
00:14:59is based on your observations and your knowledge of the street, but let me
00:15:03complete it. Because, as we saw when Harris lost
00:15:06the presidential elections last time, they did not admit that the main
00:15:10reason for their loss, or one of the main reasons, was the genocide that happened in
00:15:13Gaza. When the midterm primary
00:15:19at the beginning, they tried to say that some candidates who support
00:15:23the rights of the Palestinian people might win,
00:15:26but they would not be able to succeed in swing states. And let me
00:15:30clarify here that there are about 10 to 15 members who will be
00:15:34in the American Congress whose election campaign was mainly
00:15:37built, and the difference between them and the other candidate was
00:15:41the directions of their policies towards the genocide that happened in the Gaza
00:15:44Strip. So for these, almost every
00:15:48candidate and every difference in the election program was the difference in terms
00:15:52of their policy towards Palestine, and there will be 15 of them who
00:15:56won whose election program was this, and we are talking about a very
00:15:59big change, and yesterday's elections proved
00:16:02that several candidates will succeed in swing states if
00:16:06they are on the right path and if they support the right
00:16:10principles. So for the establishment or for the party leadership, there are no
00:16:13longer any reasons to, let's say, try to confront
00:16:17the voter. The voter proved yesterday that
00:16:21the policy of supporting Palestine is a very important issue, even
00:16:25when the Vice President comes out and says that a very large group of
00:16:28Republicans did not vote for Republicans, they voted
00:16:31for Democrats because of their relationship with Israel. I mean,
00:16:34more than that proof, I don't know how they want it. So I
00:16:38am sure that there will be a very big change in the Democratic
00:16:41Party's policy, and more importantly, we will start to see presidential
00:16:45candidates now. I mean, in a little while, we will start hearing about presidential
00:16:49candidates for the 2028
00:16:51elections, and we will see that the votes will be in the Democratic
00:16:54Party and that there will be bidding in the Democratic Party
00:16:58on who will support the Palestinian people more, not the other way around this time.
00:17:02Uh-huh. Okay. Dr., the Palestinian
00:17:05and Arab communities and other
00:17:08communities, how much of an influential role did they play in these
00:17:11midterm elections, as we saw them, and this
00:17:15reflection that happened
00:17:17in them? I mean, let's say this year's
00:17:21elections motivated the community incredibly. So we are seeing the
00:17:25participation that exists, a participation that is
00:17:28unprecedented. We are seeing a group
00:17:30of people who were volunteers and went to work on Abdel Rahman's
00:17:34campaign from several states, they left their jobs, a very large group,
00:17:38especially young people, and they went and volunteered for the last two or three weeks in this
00:17:41campaign. The numbers that the community is putting in money for this
00:17:45election campaign are unprecedented numbers, and we are talking,
00:17:49I mean, about there being a very, very big activity to a degree
00:17:52that we never, I mean, as an activist like me, I have always dreamed of reaching
00:17:56this stage, but I never expected to reach it, but the degree we
00:17:59have reached is very, very high, and today with the success that happened,
00:18:03this should be an even greater incentive to continue with this
00:18:06matter. And in my opinion, for the community or
00:18:10for the supporters of the Palestinian people here, let me reiterate that
00:18:14the number of supporters is much larger than the members of the community, and they are playing a very
00:18:17big role, I mean, together as one team,
00:18:21that, I mean, let's say today's
00:18:24historic and excellent day that happened yesterday must be the beginning
00:18:28of the presidential elections, which will lead to a fundamental
00:18:31change in foreign policy. Doctor, through
00:18:34your political work and you mentioned more than 30 years,
00:18:38how will the results of these elections affect the foreign policy
00:18:41of the Trump administration related to the Middle
00:18:44East? We will definitely see some
00:18:48change, it might not be very fundamental, but we will definitely see some
00:18:51change. I mean, also, today, the Vice President issued
00:18:55a statement almost distancing himself from President Trump's policies,
00:18:59and almost said that these things, I mean, regarding the war, regarding the relationship
00:19:03with Israel, regarding the inflation that happened, which caused the party
00:19:06to lose. Of course, for the Vice President and for
00:19:10other Republicans, they started looking at the 2028
00:19:13elections, so for them, it became about how they can change these
00:19:18the next elections. They will put a lot of pressure on President
00:19:22Trump, so we might see changes, I won't say very
00:19:25fundamental, but we will definitely see some changes. The work
00:19:30Congress, how will it have
00:19:34the relationship with the administration and its reflection on its foreign policy?
00:19:37Because Trump said I will veto if there are no, I mean,
00:19:42doesn't like. I mean,
00:19:46but at the same time, now it's like, he has to, as you say, reach
00:19:49a compromise with them, he won't be able to get everything he wants
00:19:53through, especially when it comes to matters like budget matters, like
00:19:56the budget. Before the budget is finalized, they will have to reach
00:19:59a compromise, especially since the Democrats now have,
00:20:03I mean, the Senate and the House of Representatives,
00:20:06so there will be many things that will change. At the same time,
00:20:10today, the committees in both chambers will go to the Democrats,
00:20:13so members of both chambers will be able to hold ministers
00:20:17accountable, hold policies accountable, and ask questions that they couldn't
00:20:20ask before, which will greatly affect what, I mean,
00:20:24principles we are adopting. So, for example, regarding settlements, if there is
00:20:27a hearing or accountability
00:20:30issue, there will be a lot of debate and discussion,
00:20:34and it will affect, in one way or another, the President's policy on this issue.
00:20:37And several other matters, so there will be pressure, there will be a
00:20:41council, I mean, it will certainly put pressure on him. At the same time,
00:20:46Republicans who will be encouraged and will speak out. And this
00:20:50issue, in more matters, I expect we will start to see a change regarding
00:20:53Republican representatives, because
00:20:57issue is an electoral
00:21:00the Zionist lobby alone is no longer
00:21:03enough, because there are people who are being held accountable and they have started to understand that this game
00:21:07exists. I understand from your words, Dr. Hanna,
00:21:09that the issue of a military adventure in partnership with
00:21:13Israel might be somewhat avoided at this stage, in
00:21:17light of attempts to pressure for it.
00:21:20Saving Netanyahu
00:21:23matter. I mean, if we were to talk, let's say,
00:21:27logically, or in the understandable talk that
00:21:30usually happens, you are 100% right. It is clear
00:21:34today that the people have sent a very strong message that this adventure
00:21:37is rejected. It is clear that major leaders in the Republican Party
00:21:41are distancing themselves from this issue and are raising this issue.
00:21:45But with President Trump, we expected, I mean, all
00:21:48of his, let's say, all of his activities and all
00:21:52of his initiatives are surprising, and many of them are not necessarily
00:21:55logical, they could be a
00:21:57counter-reaction.
00:22:00So, although I don't expect it to happen that way, with President Trump,
00:22:03it is very difficult to predict what the next step he will take will be.
00:22:32viewers, we will move to our guest,
00:22:35Professor As'ad Ghanem, Professor of Political Science at
00:22:38Haifa University, who
00:22:41joins us via Zoom from
00:22:44Haifa to talk about the process and
00:22:48what is happening in the process of assigning and the consultations
00:22:51that are taking place and the demands for investigation
00:22:55with
00:23:00the two lists, the Joint
00:23:11and our dear viewers, and then we will return to
00:23:15the discussion in light of a complex
00:23:18political scene in
00:23:21Israel. Official consultations began with Israeli President
00:23:24Isaac Herzog in preparation for assigning one of the Knesset
00:23:28members to form the next Israeli government,
00:23:31provided that the consultations continue for
00:23:34two days, and Herzog listens to
00:23:38the recommendations of the parliamentary blocs according to an order
00:23:41that starts with the smallest parties in representation, up to
00:23:44the largest parties in an attempt to determine
00:23:48the candidate who received a number of recommendations to form
00:23:52the government. These consultations come in light
00:23:55of a complex parliamentary map in which
00:23:58neither of the two competing camps
00:24:01was able to achieve the required majority to form
00:24:05the government, which makes the recommendations a
00:24:08preliminary test of the political power balance.
00:24:11Israeli political estimates
00:24:14indicate that the leader of the Yesh Atid party,
00:24:18Gadi Eisenkot, is the candidate to receive the first mandate,
00:24:21after four parties from the anti-Netanyahu
00:24:24camp announced their intention
00:24:28to recommend him, which guarantees him
00:24:32recommendations compared to 46
00:24:36expected recommendations for Prime Minister Benjamin
00:24:39Netanyahu from the Likud, Shas,
00:24:42Religious Zionism, and Otzma
00:24:45Yehudit parties. However, attention is turning specifically
00:24:48to three parties that have not yet
00:24:52decided their position: United Torah Judaism,
00:24:55the Joint List, and the United Arab List. While
00:24:59Netanyahu is exerting intense pressure on United Torah
00:25:02Judaism to get its recommendation, expectations are
00:25:06leaning towards the possibility of the two Arab parties
00:25:09recommending Eisenkot, which could give him a clear advantage
00:25:13over Netanyahu. Despite Eisenkot's advantage in
00:25:17the recommendation battle, to forming
00:25:20the government is still fraught with obstacles due to
00:25:24the political contradictions within the anti-Netanyahu
00:25:28camp and the refusal of some of its components,
00:25:31foremost among them Avigdor Lieberman, to form
00:25:34a government that relies on the support of Arab parties. In
00:25:38contrast, Netanyahu faces a crisis no less
00:25:41complex, as his camp, which holds
00:25:4553 seats, cannot
00:25:48guarantee the required
00:25:50parliamentary majority without attracting partners from outside
00:25:53his camp. In the face of this equation, the
00:25:57possibilities of forming a minority government, a broad unity
00:26:00government, or the continuation of the political crisis
00:26:05the table. Thus,
00:26:08this round of consultations may determine the identity of the candidate
00:26:12who will receive the first mandate, but it will not necessarily
00:26:15determine the identity of the next Israeli
00:26:19prime minister. Salam Mashreqi, Palestine TV, Tel
00:26:23Aviv. Thank you to our colleague Salam Mashreqi.
00:26:26I return to Professor As'ad Ghanem, I mean,
00:26:29the reality in light of the complications
00:26:33in the Israeli scene, how do you read it in
00:26:36terms of consultations and the mandate process?
00:26:40I mean, in reality, as
00:26:43our viewers know, there was a decisive
00:26:47process against Benjamin Netanyahu, despite
00:26:50the fact that Benjamin Netanyahu's bloc received
00:26:53a number of votes or seats
00:26:56more than was expected for it six
00:27:00months ago, or even before the start of the election campaign
00:27:03by days. But nevertheless,
00:27:07there is a clear decisiveness against Benjamin Netanyahu and his government, and that
00:27:11is due to internal and external reasons.
00:27:14In terms of the Israeli discussion,
00:27:18the fundamental problem that arises or
00:27:21contributes to the inability to form an alternative government
00:27:25to Benjamin Netanyahu and the insistence of the Israeli opposition
00:27:28on, I mean, not cooperating with the Arab parties,
00:27:32which could enable the opposition parties, led by
00:27:36Eisenkot, to form a government, and that is, of course, despite
00:27:39the fact that the Arab parties have initially announced
00:27:42that they will, of course, intend or intend
00:27:45to, I mean, or give the President
00:27:48a recommendation on. Eisenkot, but this
00:27:52of course will certainly contribute to facilitating the task
00:27:55of the head of state by giving the recommendation to form a government
00:27:58for Eisenkot. This of course does not mean at all that the government
00:28:02was formed. We were in such scenarios in
00:28:052011, 2021,
00:28:082022, and this crisis
00:28:11continued for, for several
00:28:14elections, until the matter was settled in
00:28:17the November 2022 elections.
00:28:21Therefore, what I mean is
00:28:24that perhaps a recommendation will be given to Eisenkot
00:28:30mean, in the presence of opposition from
00:28:34coalition or this bloc,
00:28:36outside that your government
00:28:40will be formed. My belief is that all
00:28:43possibilities are still open, even though
00:28:46logic and sound reason say that Eisenkot must
00:28:50go all the way in forming a government and that
00:28:53he should rely on the two parties
00:28:57and the two lists will not work to