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00:00:01At this point, excuse
00:00:13Joining the Mecca Alliance.
00:00:16We will return to elaborate more on this This is a pivotal issue for the security of
00:00:20Syria and the security of the region in general.
00:00:23There is no doubt that a new
00:00:26regional scene is forming in this
00:00:29region. It also seems that
00:00:32Syria is trying to reserve a seat
00:00:37is that we will benefit between all member states for itself in its arrangements. Foreign Minister Asaad
00:00:41military responsibilities? This Al-Shaibani says that there are ongoing discussions
00:00:44to evaluate Syria's entry into the Mecca Alliance.
00:00:47This is an important
00:00:49a major statement made by the minister that made
00:00:52many stop at it
00:00:58territory. We are able of Syrian News. In and ask and wonder what if Damascus became a partner in protecting this
00:01:01region? What if the geography that for decades
00:01:05made it an arena for conflicting interests
00:01:09and conflicts turned into a position of strength in
00:01:12shaping future alliances?
00:01:15In addition to this statement, Minister
00:01:19from regional Al-Shaibani also made striking statements,
00:01:22My guests for the discussion on even more than striking, in
00:01:24the context of what he said. What did
00:01:26join this alliance, he say? He said that
00:01:27we will be worthy of Damascus will not stand
00:01:30by watching any aggression targeting
00:01:33the Arab Gulf states,
00:01:35welcomes Syria's accession to this and that the security of
00:01:36Obligations. Can we the Gulf is an integral
00:01:38Welcome to this discussion part of Syria's security. There is
00:01:41in particular, has a scene, it seems, a dual scene of
00:01:44aggressions in the region. On the one hand,
00:01:47Jawad. Welcome to the there are continuous and repeated Israeli
00:01:51us from aggressions against Syria. On the other hand, there are Iranian aggressions against the Gulf
00:01:57in this regard? states. Where will Syria and what are the Turkish doubts be in the heart of this battle?
00:02:00Political, military, and security. One might say
00:02:03that Syria has a peculiarity unlike other
00:02:07countries. In the Syrian south, events are always
00:02:10at the heart of any discussion or arrangements.
00:02:14Despite all the capabilities Syria possesses,
00:02:20else, whether at home or of this can it really be or can Syria
00:02:23guests. This join the Mecca Alliance? What is the importance of the location for Syria to be an influential
00:02:26number in the equation of joint defense? What does it offer
00:02:30and what can it gain? What is the position of
00:02:33the active countries, led by the United States, on this
00:02:37approach? Does the Mecca Alliance provide a security
00:02:41military means? This umbrella for Damascus, or does it place it before new regional
00:02:43commitments and calculations?
00:02:45and is supposed to be one of How can
00:02:49that quickly joins this at the heart of this this partnership be reflected in confronting Israeli
00:02:52Omar, what is your opinion aggressions and in the future of
00:02:53a significant economic and security cooperation in the region? This is our discussion today
00:02:59statement that reliance on on the table. Welcome to you.
00:03:07Dahham. Mr. Dahham, what is your opinion on 55 years of East. Is Syria one of
00:03:10will create
00:03:16So, the Minister of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates, Asaad Al-Shaibani, said
00:03:20that there are ongoing discussions to evaluate Syria's entry into the
00:03:24Mecca Defense Alliance, and that Damascus stands with
00:03:27the countries and peoples of the Gulf to confront
00:03:31Syria's entry into cross-border militias. He added, in his speech about
00:03:34the Gulf countries, that their security
00:03:37the main partners and stability are an inseparable part of Syria's security, because Syria has become a reliable
00:03:41partner within a regional system
00:03:45are forming, Syria should not for achieving security and stability. Let's watch the report and then return to open the discussion on
00:03:49the table.
00:03:54What does it mean for Damascus to move from internal conflicts to
00:03:57participating in regional security arrangements? And what are the implications
00:04:00of discussing the possibility of joining the Mecca Alliance, and where does
00:04:04Syria stand in the Middle
00:04:07which is very important and strategic East equation and the alliances that are redrawing new maps of interests
00:04:12and I will start from Istanbul with and power balances? Here,
00:04:16acceptable. What is the goal of one thing, but we are talking in our discussion, we may go beyond geographical boundaries to security
00:04:17great benefits in this and influence calculations in a region where threats
00:04:20Defense Alliance is are intertwined and there is something strategic and a very conflicts are escalating, and we may also go beyond
00:04:24what we were talking about a year ago regarding the possibility
00:04:27of Syria asserting its new status,
00:04:30to moving from the position of being affected
00:04:33by regional equations to the position
00:04:36of participating in their formulation.
00:04:40Are we ready industry. And Pakistan, Minister Al-Shaibani spoke from Manama about ongoing discussions
00:04:42to evaluate Syria's entry into the
00:04:45Mecca Agreement, which includes
00:04:47alliance? What are the practical in the Gulf. suffer from weakness in this Saudi Arabia, Turkey, we able to be and Pakistan.
00:04:50Statements carried significant political and security
00:04:54obligations resulting signals and opened the door will achieve for Syrians? All to a new phase of
00:04:57defensive and security cooperation
00:05:01Syria also needs to join this between Damascus and those influential
00:05:03diversified from various sources. This countries in the region. However, the discussion is not
00:05:07just about joining a new alliance.
00:05:10especially since we need this The Mecca Agreement for Joint Defense stipulates
00:05:13that any armed attack on one of the three countries
00:05:17is an attack on all of them, in addition to enhancing military
00:05:20and intelligence cooperation and defensive coordination in light
00:05:24of continuous Israeli aggressions against the Syrian
00:05:27south, which makes Syria's accession
00:05:30contingent on commitments that may
00:05:33go beyond the scope of political
00:05:35coordination.
00:05:39Speaking of the Israeli aggressions, which Al-Shaibani
00:05:43placed at the heart of the discussion, revealing
00:05:46more than a thousand aggressions in less than
00:05:49two years, the equation of mutual interests
00:05:52emerges. Syria represents an important geographical location for the region's security
00:05:56and trade and energy routes,
00:06:00while the Gulf, Turkish, and Pakistani
00:06:02partnership can open new horizons for defensive
00:06:06cooperation and economic investment
00:06:10and rebuilding capabilities.
00:06:12However, the real test does not lie in declaring the desire
00:06:15to join, but in the nature of the commitments
00:06:18that will result from it, without being drawn into
00:06:22conflicts that do not serve the stability of Damascus
00:06:26or the stability of the region as a
00:06:29whole.
00:06:34the table in this episode are with us here in the studio, Brigadier General
00:06:38Munir Al-Hariri, security expert. Welcome to the table, Brigadier General.
00:06:42Also with us from Doha, writer and political
00:06:45researcher Dr. Omar Bin Tahia. Welcome, Dr. Omar.
00:06:51on the table. And also with us
00:06:53from Istanbul, Mr. Jawad Gok, Turkish
00:06:57political analyst. Welcome, Mr.
00:07:00table. Welcome, Mr. Jawad. Also with
00:07:04the
00:07:06Also with us from Riyadh, Mr. Dahham Al-Enezi, Saudi journalist.
00:07:10Welcome, Mr. Dahham, to the
00:07:17Now, Mr. Al-Shaibani, Minister of Foreign Affairs, says there are
00:07:20ongoing discussions to evaluate Syria's accession
00:07:24to the Mecca Alliance. What do you make
00:07:29statement? Good evening to you, dear
00:07:32viewers, and to your esteemed
00:07:35is what the Minister of Foreign Affairs announced.
00:07:38It is good that there is an alliance.
00:07:42It happened recently and was agreed upon by three great
00:07:46brotherly countries with immense
00:07:50material, military, tactical,
00:07:53and strategic capabilities. And this
00:07:56ambition to be
00:08:00alliance is very good. It
00:08:03will have
00:08:06impact on Syria, a large umbrella
00:08:09that shades this newly emerging and recently
00:08:13liberated country, after
00:08:16security apparatuses and the former defunct Assad
00:08:19regime. This
00:08:23a deterrent balance
00:08:26and a strategic balance.
00:08:29Brigadier General, sorry for the interruption, but before talking about
00:08:33what will happen if this step is taken,
00:08:36as the Minister of Foreign Affairs said, there are discussions and evaluations. Now, how will
00:08:40these discussions take shape? How long will
00:08:43they continue? Are there specific criteria to be considered? How
00:08:47will it be managed? Okay, now there is an alliance,
00:08:50not a coalition. Yes, the difference between them is
00:08:54huge. An alliance is
00:08:57something with a major strategic long-term dimension,
00:09:01especially when it is between countries with harmony
00:09:03and coordination. A coalition is
00:09:07usually for a specific goal, such
00:09:09as a coalition to fight drug
00:09:14trafficking, or a coalition to fight ISIS. This is the coalition
00:09:17that Syria joined and was its 90th member in this coalition. Yes.
00:09:21So, a coalition is
00:09:25about an alliance. This alliance has a major strategic
00:09:29dimension, a national dimension,
00:09:31a religious dimension, a patriotic dimension, all strategic dimensions complete,
00:09:35especially since a country possesses
00:09:38immense capabilities. For example, the Turkish power is number
00:09:41two in the NATO alliance, or perhaps the second global power in
00:09:44terms of numbers and equipment, in addition to
00:09:47its advanced military
00:09:51which has two important things:
00:09:54it has nuclear weapons and it has very strong
00:09:58intelligence agencies that can monitor and assess
00:10:01many real events, in addition to the Kingdom of Saudi
00:10:04Arabia with its power, its area,
00:10:07its complete economy, its dynamic
00:10:11movement, its advanced weapons that have become
00:10:16gives a great momentum to this alliance for
00:10:19there to be a strong alliance,
00:10:23alliance in the region, and all
00:10:25countries have been in alliances since the Baghdad Pact in
00:10:281955. Today there are alliances, and we have seen the Warsaw Pact
00:10:32and we have seen the Atlantic
00:10:35alliance, NATO, the Atlantic alliance or NATO. Good.
00:10:41discussion, Dr. Omar. Now,
00:10:44it is important perhaps to talk about the discussions and evaluations
00:10:48that Mr. Minister of Foreign Affairs Asaad
00:10:52Al-Shaibani referred to when he said that there are ongoing discussions
00:10:55to evaluate Syria's entry into the Mecca Alliance. But before we delve into
00:10:58these details and the expected outcomes
00:11:02during the coming period, what is the message or the most important
00:11:05Syrian messages behind this
00:11:08statement by the Minister of Foreign Affairs?
00:11:12الخارجيه
00:11:15Good evening, Mr. Mohammed, to you, your guests, and the viewers
00:11:20fact, the statement was made twice
00:11:23in two separate periods regarding
00:11:27Syria's desire or possibility
00:11:30of joining the Mecca Defense Alliance. The last
00:11:33statement by the Syrian Foreign Minister Asaad
00:11:37Al-Shaibani, as you mentioned, certainly carries
00:11:40political messages and implications
00:11:43internally and externally,
00:11:46of course. And let's start with the main messages
00:11:49to external parties.
00:11:52Syria, through
00:11:56the Manama Dialogue Forum, in its 22nd
00:11:59session, which discussed the foundations
00:12:03of national security in the region
00:12:06indeed presented
00:12:09this message. This session primarily
00:12:13focuses on re-shaping the security defense umbrella
00:12:17for the region's countries, moving away from the old traditional
00:12:20forms that relied directly on the United States. It is now
00:12:24moving towards cooperation among Arab parties
00:12:27and countries concerned with their
00:12:29national security, especially after being exposed
00:12:33to attacks from several parties, particularly Iranian attacks
00:12:36during the Iranian-Israeli war on Iran.
00:12:39In fact, these messages indicate that the Syrian
00:12:43state is ready to be a trusted strategic
00:12:47partner for countries suffering from crises regarding
00:12:50their national stability and security stability,
00:12:54and can play a role in this regard, which enhances
00:12:57the presence of the Syrian state and re-affirms
00:13:00its geopolitical positioning after
00:13:04it completely exited the Iranian axis
00:13:07and became closer, in every sense of the word,
00:13:11to the Arab identity, Arab interests,
00:13:14and Arab efforts to ensure its collective security.
00:13:18The Minister of Foreign Affairs indicated yesterday in a clear
00:13:24individual security for countries is
00:13:27no longer productive or beneficial. And it is
00:13:30natural, given the circumstances and conditions the region
00:13:33is generally facing, that working to establish
00:13:36a collective security system is the best
00:13:39and closest approach regarding alliances
00:13:43that can be worked through during this period. This is the Mecca
00:13:46Defense Alliance, which includes two direct
00:13:49allies of the new Syrian state, namely Turkey
00:13:53and Saudi Arabia.
00:13:56this alliance, if an agreement is reached
00:13:59internally and with
00:14:02in this alliance, means that the Syrian state
00:14:06confirms this effective presence as a regional actor,
00:14:09unlike what it suffered during the past 15 years,
00:14:12as it was only present as a crisis file on the table of these
00:14:16main countries in the region. This statement from
00:14:19Minister Al-Shaibani also prompts us to question
00:14:23the position of the parties to the Mecca
00:14:26Alliance, Saudi Arabia, the Kingdom of Saudi
00:14:29Arabia, on one side, and Turkey on
00:14:33the other. How do they assess or how do they view,
00:14:37Mr. Jawad Gok. Mr. Jawad,
00:14:41how does the Turkish side view the possibility or
00:14:44the study or, in other words, the discussions
00:14:48that the Minister of Foreign Affairs talked about to evaluate
00:14:51Syria's accession to the Mecca Alliance? How do the Turks assess it? And to our guests
00:14:55and our dear viewers. Of course,
00:14:58you know, ultimately, Syria
00:15:01has a sensitive geographical
00:15:04location at a very high
00:15:08level, especially after the recent developments
00:15:12We have seen that Syria's geographical
00:15:16and strategic position
00:15:19is needed by everyone, frankly.
00:15:22As for Syria, Turkey is very
00:15:26interested in the decisions taken by the government. But
00:15:29the question now is, does the current Mecca Alliance in its current form need Syria? Yes, yes,
00:15:33yes, yes. Yes, the
00:15:37Mecca Agreement needs Syria and Egypt,
00:15:39frankly, currently, because
00:15:42they are two very important countries for Turkish
00:15:45national security. Also, Syria ultimately, there
00:15:49are positives, that Syria
00:15:53takes responsibility for Syrian national security
00:15:57and also for neighboring countries. However,
00:16:00there are strategic responsibilities for Syria.
00:16:04Is it capable of bearing them, first and second?
00:16:07That is, there is a joint defense
00:16:13of this alliance. Is Syria capable of bearing direct
00:16:19discussion exists within the Turkish arena, but
00:16:22in general, all countries trust
00:16:26Syria, the Syrian government, and the Syrian people. Why?
00:16:29Because they have proven that they are capable of
00:16:32facing problems internally and even
00:16:35externally. Now, after what happened in the Strait
00:16:39of Hormuz, now pipelines through
00:16:42Iraq to Syria, then the Taniyah
00:16:45road will pass from Iraq to Syria to Turkey.
00:16:49We expect now
00:16:52regional agreements
00:16:56countries without the Americans.
00:17:00And this is what we expected after what happened between Iran and America. Now
00:17:03the countries of the region need an alliance
00:17:06and an agreement. But you mentioned, Mr. Jawad, you mentioned
00:17:10that, I mean, regarding the Turkish side or
00:17:13the Turkish way of thinking regarding the possibility of Syria
00:17:17joining the Mecca Alliance, it is a question that Turkey raises about whether
00:17:20there are military responsibilities, as you mentioned. Can
00:17:24Syria bear them? I mean, let's clarify this point
00:17:28further, Mr. Jawad. What responsibilities are we talking about here,
00:17:34There are no doubts about
00:17:37the good intentions of the Syrian people and the Syrian government,
00:17:40but there are military responsibilities. For example,
00:17:44when Israel attacks,
00:17:47we want there to be a security
00:17:51umbrella
00:17:53for Syria. Also, Syria is now trying to unite
00:17:57its ranks and secure itself
00:18:01internally. I mean, they have overcome
00:18:04many internal problems, but there are still
00:18:12many challenges and Israeli interventions. Is the Syrian government capable of confronting the Israeli problem through
00:18:15diplomatic means and through
00:18:19discussion is currently taking place, but in general,
00:18:22Syria's participation will be very strong
00:18:26for the Mecca Alliance. For example, the position of the Kingdom
00:18:30of Saudi Arabia is excellent in the Arab
00:18:33and Islamic world. Also, Syria can be
00:18:39this is very clear. Okay, good. Let's head to Saudi Arabia with Mr.
00:18:45the matter? Mr. Jawad says that the Mecca
00:18:48Alliance needs Syria. What is
00:18:50the Saudi perspective on the whole
00:18:54issue? First of all, good evening to you, and good evening
00:18:58to your guests present with you and your viewers through your esteemed
00:19:01channel. I believe that, I mean,
00:19:05let's first look at what we are talking about. I mean,
00:19:08the Mecca Alliance or the Mecca Pact. Of course, there is no
00:19:12big difference. Some, I mean, my friend earlier,
00:19:16my colleague, indicated that there is a difference between
00:19:20an alliance and a pact. Ultimately, it is a group of countries seeking
00:19:24a specific interest. Regarding the Mecca Defense Pact, and perhaps
00:19:27the Brigadier General meant that a pact might
00:19:31be limited to a specific goal or temporary or serving
00:19:34a specific angle, while an alliance is broader and more comprehensive, is it not
00:19:38so? Exactly. The Mecca Alliance, from
00:19:42its name, is the Mecca Defense Alliance. Good. Secondly,
00:19:45the countries of the Mecca Defense Alliance and the Mecca Defense Pact
00:19:48have all clarified that the entry of new countries into the alliance is
00:19:54this alliance or this pact? The Mecca
00:19:58to achieve more stability
00:20:01and deterrence, more stability in the Middle East. Now, the countries of the Middle East
00:20:04seem to have decided, independently of the United States, whether it leaves
00:20:07the region or not. There are regional
00:20:11powers forming. Syria is a pivotal
00:20:15country, a crucial country, an important country, and its accession
00:20:18to this defense pact is very
00:20:22important for several reasons. First, Syria's geographical
00:20:26location is important. Secondly, the Syrian military
00:20:29experience is also important. We do not
00:20:31underestimate, let's say, the military expertise of the Syrians or
00:20:35the courage of the Syrians. Thirdly,
00:20:39alliance, as the brother pointed out, to send a message
00:20:42to Israel that if Israel attacks Syria,
00:20:46these countries may intervene. We know the strength of the Mecca Defense Pact.
00:20:51my interruption, but Mr. Jawad, as I understood him,
00:20:55believes that the problem of Israeli aggressions against Syria
00:20:59should be addressed first before considering
00:21:02joining the Mecca Alliance. How do you see the matter?
00:21:06First, my dear brother, the problem of security issues is simple and can be contained
00:21:10within Syria and can be resolved. Syria has almost
00:21:13completely recovered from security problems. The problem remains
00:21:16with Israel. Israel is a neighboring country to Syria.
00:21:20And it is possible to sign a peace treaty, as Jordan
00:21:23or Egypt and all neighboring countries to Israel have done, and the problem
00:21:27will end, and the problem of the Druze, in which
00:21:31Israel intervenes, will be resolved. The Syrian- Israeli
00:21:35problem is a minor detail that is not
00:21:39part of this major change in the Middle East, which is currently
00:21:43seeking new alliances and, I mean, creating new
00:21:46powers. The important thing is, my dear brother, the Mecca
00:21:50Defense Alliance aims to deter any
00:21:53aggression, meaning that any country that is attacked,
00:21:57these countries will collectively ally
00:22:00and attack whoever attacks the country. Syria now
00:22:04needs to join this because when there are
00:22:07major changes in the Middle East, Syria should not be absent,
00:22:11as it is a crucial and important country. It should not be absent from these
00:22:14international alliances that are currently
00:22:18forming. As for Saudi Arabia,
00:22:20Arabia's perspective. I believe I do not have information, but
00:22:22I strongly believe that it
00:22:25alliance from Saudi
00:22:28Mr. Dahham, does Saudi Arabia
00:22:31believe that Syria is now ready
00:22:35to join the Mecca Alliance? And what
00:22:39does Syria lack, my dear brother, and what does Syria lack to join the Mecca
00:22:42Alliance? This alliance is what I am asking you about
00:22:45this point, I mean, commenting on Mr. Jawad's words, our guest from Istanbul, that there are discussions.
00:22:50Now, the Turkish side has questions, it has
00:22:53perhaps discussions on this matter, that is, is everything ready
00:22:56now, or should we perhaps
00:22:59wait and see? No, there is no need
00:23:03to wait and see. Syria should join
00:23:06the Mecca Alliance. There are Israeli-Turkish
00:23:09sensitivities, perhaps this is what
00:23:12the brother means. And these Syrian-Turkish
00:23:15Israeli sensitivities have been settled, I mean,
00:23:19an agreement to postpone between Israel and Turkey for a long time, and also
00:23:22there are already relations, I mean,
00:23:25there is an Israeli ambassador and a Turkish ambassador.
00:23:29And the story that there are sensitivities about Syria joining
00:23:32is not true at all. Syria must
00:23:35the countries
00:23:39alliance because there is a forming power in the Middle East.
00:23:42Syria's position is very important now, my dear brother.
00:23:45For example, if the goal of the Mecca
00:23:49Alliance is to establish peace in the Middle
00:23:54the important countries in establishing the peace process? Yes. Does Syria
00:23:58now have obstacles to joining
00:24:01this alliance? No, it has no obstacles
00:24:04from Saudi Arabia at all. Does Saudi Arabia want it to join?
00:24:08I believe that Saudi Arabia has stated before, along with all
00:24:12the countries of the defense alliance, that it welcomes
00:24:15any country that wants peace in the Middle East and wants to
00:24:19join this alliance. I do not believe that anyone does not welcome
00:24:23Syria, and Syria specifically needs to be included at this stage
00:24:26because Syria, I mean, when the fate of the Middle East
00:24:30for the next hundred years is currently being determined, and when these new alliances
00:24:35be absent from the scene. It must be at the heart of the scene. Go ahead, yes.
00:24:39Brigadier General, are there obstacles or not regarding Syria's accession
00:24:43now to the Mecca Alliance?
00:24:46God willing, there are no obstacles, but any new accession to any new
00:24:50alliance requires
00:24:53certain requirements, whether from the alliance
00:24:56or from the country itself. Mr. Dahham tells you there is no difference
00:25:00between an alliance and a pact. Yes.
00:25:03There is a big difference. In an alliance,
00:25:08grand vision that will be achieved in the foreseeable future or in the
00:25:11long term. Yes, a pact is a temporary
00:25:15situation that is achieved with a specific idea and ends
00:25:17when that idea is achieved. Therefore, this is the difference
00:25:21between them. Regarding Syria, there are logistical
00:25:24obstacles, perhaps, that we specifically need to consider.
00:25:30to be in this alliance? Are
00:25:34influential in this
00:25:37benefits that this alliance
00:25:41these matters are considered from a security perspective,
00:25:44from a military perspective, from the perspective of the direct
00:25:47enmity between us and Syria, and that we are on a single
00:25:50line of contact with Israel, Israel, yes.
00:25:54I meant Syria now, Syria and Israel.
00:25:57So there are many facts that must
00:26:00be considered. What does that mean? Can we
00:26:04elaborate more, Brigadier General? First of all, we
00:26:08certainly, everything, any new accession
00:26:10to any alliance is in everyone's interest,
00:26:14naturally. And we are in favor
00:26:17of joining this alliance, but we need to study our situation.
00:26:21Does it warrant joining? It warrants it because
00:26:24this alliance will form a large regional umbrella for us
00:26:28at the regional level, especially
00:26:32from sisterly countries and leading countries that can
00:26:35influence global decisions. The second point
00:26:39from this alliance
00:26:43at the political level, that we
00:26:46are part of an alliance, even though we are a country that has been liberated
00:26:49for less than two years. We are able
00:26:53to build our army, we are able to control our borders,
00:26:57and we are able to control our entire
00:27:00to deal with many issues that concern the region,
00:27:04such as mobile criminal gangs and drug trafficking. All these matters,
00:27:07so there are successes. Mr. Jawad, when he spoke
00:27:11about some perhaps inquiries or questions, he said
00:27:15that from the Turkish side, there are discussions and questions
00:27:18about whether the ground is ready for Syria to join
00:27:22the alliance. Do you agree with this statement? Yes, I agree
00:27:26with the following: when we
00:27:30this alliance. This alliance
00:27:33will have commitments to us and commitments from us.
00:27:38achieve them? That is why this is our measure. We are,
00:27:42of course, emerging from a state of war. We are emerging
00:27:45from a revolution. Currently, we are in the process of building
00:27:48an army and security and currently recovering full control over all
00:27:52our territories. All these factors are taken into account,
00:27:56but there are procedural matters
00:27:59to consider. What are these matters?
00:28:16Perhaps media coverage, all these matters benefit
00:28:19us in our struggle against anything
00:28:23abroad. As for other data, the state
00:28:26of readiness of the army, perhaps
00:28:29we need all of this because we have an army that is accustomed
00:28:32to guerrilla warfare, to urban warfare, to defensive warfare, to offensive
00:28:36warfare, a very large stage. What happened in Syria
00:28:39over 14 years is studied in major universities because
00:28:43there are many bright pages in the history of Syrians
00:28:46in combat operations. All of this will be beneficial. The situation
00:28:50will benefit from it all the countries included in the beautiful alliance. Dr.
00:28:54on this issue regarding whether there are obstacles? Does
00:28:57the Mecca alliance really
00:29:00need Syria to join quickly? Is
00:29:04the ground ready? Are there
00:29:08commitments, meaning military, security, and political
00:29:11ones, that are likely or already existing
00:29:15for joining? What will the discussions now be like
00:29:18regarding this matter?
00:29:22It is useful just to remind you, my brother
00:29:25Muhammad, that the alliance so far has not yet completed
00:29:29its legal establishment procedures.
00:29:35Exactly, exactly. And in fact, even
00:29:39its operational establishment procedures are still
00:29:42in their early stages, and Syria has not been invited,
00:29:46nor has it been asked, and
00:29:49it has not submitted an official request itself. The matter
00:29:52is still under discussion and evaluation, and it is a complex
00:29:55process, in fact, as it involves comparing
00:29:59the defensive and economic obligations
00:30:02that will result for the Syrian state if it joins
00:30:06this alliance,
00:30:10in fact at this stage. And
00:30:12I tend to believe that the Syrian state
00:30:16truly finds
00:30:19joining, first, and also the ability to add
00:30:23something positive to this alliance because there are two main
00:30:26allies of the Syrian state, namely Saudi Arabia
00:30:29and Turkey. It is in Syria's interest to enhance their
00:30:33ability to manage the region's
00:30:37a good way that
00:30:40guarantees the protection of most of the countries for which
00:30:43this alliance can provide deterrent cover. And Syria is at
00:30:47the forefront of these countries that
00:30:50regard. But these military,
00:30:52political, and economic
00:30:57for the Syrian state in case of joining are not...