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00:00:00on a level, and a special platform
00:00:02that can result from such
00:00:02An ambassador, I mean, along these lines, but he is not for business meetings. Visit the exhibition from November 2nd to 5th
00:00:06in Damascus, Exhibition City, from 2 PM to 9 PM.
00:00:13difference. A peace ambassador does not
00:00:15points of view here in
00:00:17nominations begin from
00:00:22Ukrainian President Zelensky, he ultimately work in
00:00:28it to the crisis in found that this
00:00:32correct to bridge the rift in
00:00:55of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the sixties of
00:00:57There is a progression in this
00:01:03and making this after having served in the they have more experience and perhaps
00:01:06and this also applies to Foreign Minister Assad Al-Shaibani issued a decision appointing
00:01:09Muzna Al-Atrash as an advisor for peace affairs in
00:01:12But, but this does not the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Al-Atrash,
00:01:14mean that we attack this who hails from Suwayda Governorate, holds a certificate
00:01:18and also had relations with from the Higher Institute of Dramatic Arts
00:01:22the current ruling authority in diplomacy cannot know. and a degree in media. She also held the position of a member of the Syrian
00:01:26they have relations with Women's Advisory Council affiliated with the United Nations, and Muzna
00:01:30Al-Atrash was one of the figures who attended a session
00:01:34dedicated by the Security Council to hear
00:01:37testimonies regarding the events of the coast
00:01:40and Suwayda last
00:01:42year.
00:01:52of what this appointment For discussion, with me is Dr. Ahmed Tuma, politician and academic from Damascus, welcome to you. And with me
00:01:56is Bassam Al-Emadi, the former
00:01:59the south? Syrian Ambassador to Sweden, live from
00:02:02Rome. Welcome, Ambassador Bassam, and I'll start with Dr. Ahmed. So,
00:02:05the appointment of an advisor to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
00:02:09for peace affairs. What does this
00:02:11position mean at first? What is its nature, Dr.
00:02:16of building bridges with the community in Her qualifications are a diploma in Ahmed?
00:02:18the state I mean, it is certain that we are in dire need of peace. Um,
00:02:23and influence in and every step that brings us closer to peace in
00:02:27Jordan, with the Kurdistan Region, or Syria, and this appointment was made for a lady and especially if there was a problem in
00:02:31to work abroad or in Suwayda, then that reinforces this idea. We
00:02:35want a country and a
00:02:38civil state for all
00:02:41and experience and ability in its citizens, where all components and colors
00:02:48Don't accuse me of anything. That's issue. There are many players in that, hundreds her that depth in and from different segments meet. And if there was in the past
00:02:50That's right, but there are many a kind of
00:02:53authority or the competent administration difference of opinion that resulted in a major
00:02:56escalation of positions, then if
00:03:03between us and our brothers in deep diplomatic there is a possibility to cool these positions through the appointment of a peace ambassador,
00:03:09Does he have sufficient experience to work in this extensive experience in ah, from the children of
00:03:14led. Therefore, it is not that applies the Druze Monotheists here we are discussing ideas, I mean, we are not fortune-tellers on. Therefore, I don't know, community, then this will certainly be a positive thing, especially if this
00:03:16personality, I mean, as
00:03:19there are many advisors, I mean, in you kindly mentioned in the definition, that
00:03:24of Interior or European affairs, in she was from the Women's Council, from the United Nations team. Ah. This gives her an
00:03:27experience, but I didn't find that this additional status, despite the fact that she was historically
00:03:30known to have positions, ah, meaning
00:03:34perhaps not commensurate with the magnitude of the event. We will come, we will come to
00:03:38these positions, but you indicate that Syria is in dire need of peace
00:03:41and linked the matter to the Suwayda issue, but do you think
00:03:45that the name or the description, do you think it is indicative
00:03:49of the position you referred to? I mean, she is an advisor to the Foreign
00:03:51Minister for peace affairs. That's how, I mean, generally,
00:03:57he worked for a long time in if it was as you say, the description should have been an advisor. Let me
00:04:03of Foreign Affairs, since its establishment in
00:04:07say that the issue is a broader one, and it
00:04:10excuse me, I mean, this takes a large part from the moral
00:04:12aspect, as it is likely
00:04:17related to loyalty, here there is no that this appointment will reflect positively on the issue
00:04:20of Suwayda. And as long as
00:04:26My guest Dr. Ahmed says there is no shouldn't the matter is linked to peace, and certainly, in my estimation, the sister will undertake external
00:04:28roles. In the story of peace, and this is what
00:04:32the title refers to, in addition to the fact that she can
00:04:36be a link or
00:04:38a bridge between our brothers in Suwayda
00:04:41and the authority in Damascus,
00:04:44especially since she is from Al-Atrash, and this also reinforces
00:04:50everyone in the importance of dialogue and meeting between the parties. I,
00:04:53I look at this appointment positively,
00:04:56and we hope that something better will result from it.
00:05:01And if this is reinforced by
00:05:03other additions, other appointments,
00:05:07other understandings, then we in Syria are in dire need of
00:05:10each other. Well, can in any way
00:05:14the state of coolness, the state of push and pull,
00:05:17continue indefinitely? We want a solution, and we believe
00:05:20that the time has come to start with such solutions.
00:05:24Uh, Professor Bassam, from theater
00:05:27and media and the Higher Institute of Dramatic Arts to
00:05:30the Syrian Foreign Ministry. What do you think of this
00:05:33appointment, as my guest Dr. Ahmed also pointed
00:05:36out regarding the issue of Suwayda and linking
00:05:41Suwayda?
00:05:44Good evening, my dear sister, to you, to the honorable guest, and to the distinguished
00:05:47viewers. First, I will give you my professional
00:05:50opinion, I mean, I do not want to give a personal opinion or a personal judgment. No, I am asking for
00:05:54your professional opinion.
00:05:57I will give it to you after the professional discussion.
00:06:00Usually, the advisor in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
00:06:04traditionally, since the establishment
00:06:08the last century, is appointed
00:06:13ministry as an ambassador in multiple missions
00:06:17and has a specific specialization, I mean, let's say, for example, the socialist
00:06:20countries previously or the Western countries
00:06:23or the United States or the United Nations or international
00:06:27organizations. When he returns from his missions
00:06:30and is retired
00:06:32and has a good reputation
00:06:35and a good reputation regarding professionalism,
00:06:39he is appointed as an advisor in the Advisory Council of the Ministry.
00:06:43This is what was followed until the fall of the regime. The matter
00:06:47did not change, I mean, even when the Ba'ath came and Bashar
00:06:50came and others came, the matter remained as it was professionally.
00:06:53Now, in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, there
00:06:56are two levels. The first level is the political
00:06:59level. Usually, the minister is responsible
00:07:03for it. The second level is the technical
00:07:06or let's say
00:07:09technocratic level, and the directors of the administration are responsible for it.
00:07:13And the minister's assistants are between them and the minister.
00:07:17Now, the issue, I mean, we do
00:07:19not know what are the qualifications of the lady
00:07:23you mentioned, or the lady I.
00:07:28cinematic sciences, a university degree in media from Al-Hayat
00:07:31Al-Jadeeda. She also has experience, I mean, with the United
00:07:35Nations through the Syrian Women's Advisory Council. I mean, this is what
00:07:38the information in her resume says.
00:07:42Yes. So, I don't know the other
00:07:45capabilities, because these capabilities do not qualify
00:07:48her to be an advisor, even if she was in the Women's Council.
00:07:51I mean, this, and it seems that her age does not give
00:07:57the subject she will work on. In any case,
00:08:00the advisor should give the minister or the competent
00:08:05in the subject experiences they do not
00:08:09have. I mean, it is true that Al-Shaibani does not have
00:08:13experience, but nevertheless,
00:08:16the advisor should have the work
00:08:20he will be consulted
00:08:24don't you think that this criterion was not followed in the appointment of other
00:08:27advisors in the Foreign Ministry? Because
00:08:33American affairs, perhaps Jihad Makdissi is a special case
00:08:36due to his previous
00:08:39criterion that you refer to,
00:08:43Professor Bassam, I mean, especially regarding the issue of the advisor being
00:08:46formerly an ambassador and then becoming
00:08:50an advisor. This was not adopted in other
00:08:52cases. Why is it adopted now? This is
00:08:56also a question. Unfortunately, your words are
00:08:59100% correct, and your question is also 100% correct. However,
00:09:03it seems that Minister Al-Shaibani has a special way of
00:09:06dealing with the Ministry of Interior, I mean, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and ambassadors
00:09:10and embassies, and he follows a special approach that is completely different from
00:09:14what other foreign ministries follow, whether in appointing directors
00:09:18of departments or in appointing ambassadors. And as you mentioned, Jihad Makdissi
00:09:21is perhaps the only exception among
00:09:25advisors. However, it may also be heard from those who
00:09:28listen to us now, Syrians, who said that the criterion that the regime followed
00:09:32previously is the criterion that should be, I mean, why
00:09:35the new
00:09:38state create its own criteria?
00:09:40Do you want us to reinvent
00:09:44the wheel? I mean, the wheel exists
00:09:47and all countries follow it. I mean, the matter is a purely
00:09:50technocratic and professional matter. Why
00:09:54does a doctor work as a doctor and an engineer
00:09:57work as a doctor and their work does not overlap?
00:10:00I mean, everyone has their specialty. Why in diplomatic
00:10:03work does a person come from an absolutely
00:10:07unknown background in diplomatic work and is called
00:10:10an ambassador or chargé d'affaires or director of administration? I mean, this
00:10:14work will lead to utter failure, utter
00:10:17failure. I mean, clear failure. The work
00:10:20requires professionalism. No one can be brought in and told
00:10:24to work as a doctor or an engineer or a diplomat.
00:10:27I mean, diplomatic work may be difficult
00:10:31to uncover until a long time later, after "Khurbat al-Basra" as they say.
00:10:35I mean, Professor Bassam, I mean, I try to present all
00:10:40the discussion, but for example, we also have exceptions even in Western
00:10:43models. I mean, when we talk, for example, about
00:10:47came from art and from cinema and became president
00:10:51of a country.
00:10:53That's a good question. Also, to you. The reason is that in other
00:10:56countries, there is an institution that runs
00:11:00itself, I mean, without anything, but the minister comes to give
00:11:03the final political decision, while the technical
00:11:06matter is carried out by the ministry, as I said,
00:11:10the minister's assistants, the directors of departments, and others. Then the minister
00:11:14comes and gives his political opinion and political guidance. In Ukraine,
00:11:17it is true that the president is there, but he has
00:11:21enough advisors and institutions to manage
00:11:25the state. I mean, he does not manage the state alone, certainly.
00:11:28He has a staff,
00:11:31embassies. Embassies usually have a diplomatic
00:11:35staff that handles affairs. The ambassador has
00:11:38only political guidance. There are administrative and technical matters that
00:11:42the new ambassador who has not worked in
00:11:45And also the minister, the minister previously, I mean, we had
00:11:49ministers recently who were professionals, or
00:11:53the ministers who were not professionals
00:11:55had what was called the Secretary-General of the Ministry, and then there were
00:11:59assistants to him who carried out the professional
00:12:02technical work. As for now, the minister himself does not
00:12:05have diplomatic experience, and the assistants
00:12:09and directors do not have experience. Bassam,
00:12:12excuse me, if we limit the discussion to the possibility
00:12:17can achieve regarding peace in Suwayda, don't you think
00:12:21that it is a choice that holds some validity, especially
00:12:25since she is from Suwayda? Muzna Al-Atrash
00:12:28is from the Al-Atrash family, a well-established family that has significant
00:12:32popularity within Suwayda, this family I mean. Therefore, can't
00:12:36this constitute a contribution to the possibility
00:12:41Suwayda? You mentioned two points.
00:12:44The first point regarding validity
00:12:48Suwayda, this is true, but this
00:12:51is not for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, because the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is required
00:12:56missions or in diplomatic work, and here the matter
00:12:59is different. It does not require validity, and it does not require
00:13:03professionalism
00:13:06dealing. It has become a regional issue, I mean, it is no longer just an internal
00:13:11the issue. We are talking about Jordan, we are talking about Israel.
00:13:15players. We are talking about Jordan, we are talking about the United States,
00:13:19we are talking about Israel. I mean, this is what the roadmap also says,
00:13:22which was approved in Amman. Yes, but
00:13:25regarding Syria,
00:13:28Suwayda is part of civil peace,
00:13:31not peace in the sense
00:13:35to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, external peace with other countries. As for the issue
00:13:39of Suwayda, it is internal civil peace, and it has no relation
00:13:43to an advisor in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. It should have been an advisor in, for example,
00:13:45the Ministry
00:13:49any other ministry. However, in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, this work is related
00:13:52to international work, not civil peace. Dr. Ahmed, what
00:13:56do you think of what Professor Bassam mentioned? I mean, he mentioned
00:13:59his opinion from a professional standpoint, especially since he was a former Syrian ambassador
00:14:03to Sweden. Please, Dr.
00:14:05Ahmed. I mean, let me say that some of what our brother
00:14:09Professor Bassam said is true, but
00:14:13not absolutely. The title of advisor or the position
00:14:17of advisor is given to a person who has progressed in this
00:14:20matter from a small employee to a large
00:14:23employee, never. So what about when
00:14:26he is an advisor for peace? A peace
00:14:30advisor has specific tasks, including bridging
00:14:33the rift, including creating
00:14:36positive relations with
00:14:39the international community and with the local community. And I have seen that
00:14:43many famous football players have become
00:14:47peace ambassadors in their countries and for major
00:14:51international organizations. Then the saying that it must be.
00:15:03from the context we are talking about, no, absolutely not.
00:15:07No, no, absolutely not. I do not agree with this criticism.
00:15:10I say specifically that a peace advisor
00:15:13has certain characteristics aimed at bridging
00:15:16the rift, aimed at uniting hearts. And he may
00:15:20be a personality
00:15:23who is not directly related to politics, but he is related
00:15:26to peace, he is related to civil peace,
00:15:29he is related
00:15:32to bringing views closer, excuse me, I mean, he is called an ambassador, for example,
00:15:35a UN ambassador for childhood.
00:15:39appointed as an advisor
00:15:42in, I mean, in
00:15:44the Ministry
00:15:46of Foreign Affairs. Excuse me, excuse me, please. No, I mean, I don't
00:15:50at all. The advisor, the advisor is not
00:15:54exclusive to personalities who move to this position
00:15:58in their hierarchy, especially the advisor, because whoever
00:16:01has a sound mind in a certain matter,
00:16:05then he is, by the Arabic linguistic definition, he is
00:16:08an advisor and can be consulted. So what about
00:16:11considering that Ms. Muzna, and not in her defense,
00:16:15belongs to
00:16:18Suwayda and comes from a respected and esteemed family among
00:16:22its people? And this appointment may lead
00:16:25to positive results in
00:16:28resolving the issue in Suwayda itself.
00:16:31We say that if the results of this appointment
00:16:35will lead to improving conditions and
00:16:37bringing views closer,
00:16:40appointment a white point through
00:16:43which we reach the people of Suwayda, we want to solve it in Suwayda, but my guest
00:16:47is worried that she was appointed as an advisor in the Ministry of Interior.
00:16:51Excuse me, I mean, we are talking about an advisor in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. No, no,
00:16:54never.
00:16:56You know that the issue of Suwayda, the honorable minister
00:17:00directly supervised it, and the agreement that
00:17:03took place in Amman a few months ago,
00:17:08which concerned Suwayda, made it part of the powers of the Ministry
00:17:11of Foreign Affairs. Therefore, saying that making her part of the Ministry
00:17:15of Interior, and it is not embarrassing to appoint
00:17:18other advisors in other
00:17:21ministries, but regarding this appointment, I personally do not
00:17:25find it embarrassing. Then I want to say even
00:17:29regarding the previous positions
00:17:32of Ms. Muzna Al-Atrash, you referred to them at the beginning of the discussion,
00:17:36and I do not want to forget
00:18:07this woman with her history,
00:18:11the following points. However, if the designation of this situation
00:18:15is for a higher interest, for the benefit of the state, from here you take this
00:18:18angle. But let me return to an idea I wanted
00:18:22to discuss at length, the idea that the only
00:18:25condition to reach an advisor is that he be
00:18:28hierarchical, as the Syrian regime used to do. The Syrian regime
00:18:32previously restricted all
00:18:34these
00:18:36groups of employees from his own group
00:18:39and promoted them until they reached
00:18:42the rank of advisor
00:18:45within one path
00:18:48that he permissible
00:18:52to cite in
00:18:54a point
00:18:56like this point by saying that we should
00:19:00follow the previous approach. And then, who said
00:19:03that ambassadors and
00:19:06officials of international
00:19:10missions all came through foreign ministries? This is Tom
00:19:13Baraka. He has no relation whatsoever to the
00:19:17hierarchy in the
00:19:20Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Rather, he is
00:19:23a working man whom the president directly chose to
00:19:25handle problematic files. If we want to cite the experience
00:19:29of Dr. Ahmed and also Temprat incidentally, he worked, I mean,
00:19:34the electoral matter. No, no,
00:19:37he has, I mean, he is not related in one way or another, but he also has,
00:19:41I mean, experience in electoral campaigns
00:19:44and so on. But Dr. Ahmed,
00:19:47appointment specifically seems to have caused controversy among Syrians.
00:19:51I mean, we were talking about some appointments
00:19:54loyalty, excuse me, listen to me, Dr. Ahmed, I mean, on the contrary,
00:19:58there is a history, perhaps close to the regime in one way or another.
00:20:03competence. This raises a question about the criterion that
00:20:07was adopted here. What is it? For
00:20:11Suwayda, okay, but what is the criterion?
00:20:12Well,
00:20:16well, saying that she is not competent is clear through
00:20:20her work within her specialty. It is clear that she is
00:20:23competent in her specialty. And by the way, she is
00:20:2640 years old, so saying that she has no experience and is
00:20:30not wise. 87.
00:20:3087.
00:20:35Okay, okay, I mean, 40 years old or what she
00:20:45says is her age, this is not a place to move on. What I want to get to
00:20:48are the benefits.
00:20:52an appointment,
00:20:54without denying that appointments should be
00:20:58more astute, more
00:21:01mature, and that each matter should be studied separately,
00:21:04so that
00:21:07nominations, leading to appointments.
00:21:10But if the nominations
00:21:13and appointments are from experts, all of whom
00:21:18path is
00:21:22the country, to find a point
00:21:25between us and our Druze brothers, and perhaps
00:21:28this appointment will have a positive effect at the international
00:21:31level, so that it is said that there has been inclusion
00:21:34of the Syrian society with its various components. And then,
00:21:38how can a personality
00:21:41that was
00:21:45a personality, I mean, there are, Dr. Ahmed, personalities from Suwayda who want a solution
00:21:49for Suwayda, perhaps
00:21:52they don't have this history that we are talking
00:21:54about.
00:21:57Okay, and we want such people.
00:22:04appointment merely
00:22:08because she has been
00:22:11appointed in this capacity. I reiterate
00:22:14that we want appointments to be disciplined,
00:22:17for personalities with high practice,
00:22:21for personalities who possess excellent intellectual
00:22:24qualities. All of this is required, and this is what the Syrian
00:22:27state as a whole should follow. But to say that a certain
00:22:31incident makes it a basis for all
00:22:35appointments, despite, incidentally, I repeat, I agree with
00:22:38my brother Dr. Bassam in some of what he presented,
00:22:42and he is right in what he said. So we do not want to
00:22:46degrade and undermine his right to
00:22:50express his point of view and benefit from the proposals
00:22:54that he
00:22:56can make if there is
00:22:59a correction to this path that we want to be
00:23:03ideal. Uh.
00:23:07Well, Professor Bassam, do you have a comment
00:23:10and in your opinion, to what extent can
00:23:14this appointment truly build on that?
00:23:18Why are you laughing? Please, Professor
00:23:21Bassam. My dear sister, I know the backgrounds regarding
00:23:24our brother Dr. Ahmed. Now he is following his course to be one
00:23:28of the chargés d'affaires and fears that we accuse him of lacking
00:23:31experience. No, Dr. Ahmed has political experience. That's not
00:23:35true, Professor Bassam.
00:23:38not true. I don't link this
00:23:42course to the position. I
00:23:46found in the choice of Ms. Muzna
00:23:50a benefit in bringing views closer
00:23:53Suwayda, and we want to solve the problem of Suwayda.
00:23:57It was
00:24:03and we do not read people's minds. Excuse me, Professor Bassam, I mean, he
00:24:07expressed his opinion and point of view, and he has the right to do so.
00:24:10And you also have the right to express your point of view without, I mean, these
00:24:14hints you referred to. No, no, I'm not
00:24:17hinting. I mean, he might
00:24:20fear that we accuse him, even though he is far
00:24:24from such a thing, because he is a well-known politician. The idea, please, Professor Bassam, please,
00:24:27sir. Yes, and he was a prime minister and
00:24:31everything, but now I'm not speaking personally.
00:24:34I'm speaking professionally.
00:24:37Dr. Ahmed, of course, has the freedom to express his opinion,
00:24:41but I mean, he mentioned some things that are not
00:24:45absolutely true. I didn't talk about the regime's situation
00:24:48or what the regime was doing. I said the Ministry
00:24:53the sixties, even after Bashar and his father
00:24:57before him took over, the ministry remained in this
00:25:00international, global pattern followed by all
00:25:04foreign ministries. So if the regime
00:25:07followed it, it doesn't mean that we should turn against it just
00:25:10because it was during the regime's time. This is one. Two, not
00:25:14all employees or ambassadors were
00:25:17loyal to the regime. Therefore, I personally
00:25:21two years before the revolution and separated from the ministry
00:25:24and resigned from the ministry. I mean, not
00:25:27everyone was as you mentioned, Dr. Ahmed. Rather, it was, and you
00:25:31know me in the coalition, I mean, we all worked in the coalition
00:25:35and worked in the revolution. Therefore, not
00:25:40the Ministry of Foreign Affairs was from the regime's
00:25:42group. There is a completely different matter. There are
00:25:46rules for work, rules for work that were followed and are followed by
00:25:49everyone. This is what I want to say now, that
00:25:53the rules regarding advisors are not only hierarchical,
00:25:56but the basic point is that they should have the professionalism
00:26:00and sufficient experience to provide advice.
00:26:04Secondly or thirdly, football
00:26:07players and others are called peace
00:26:10ambassadors, not peace advisors, and there is a big
00:26:15work in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and carries out non-protocol
00:26:19work that has no meaning regarding
00:26:23the state. As for the advisor, he has
00:26:26an office and provides consultations and gives consultations
00:26:29to the ministry, and this requires experience and professionalism. Therefore,
00:26:33some also raise distinctions between an advisor
00:26:36for peace affairs and an advisor for civil peace affairs. Can you
00:26:40clarify the issue for us, Professor Bassam?
00:26:43Yes, regarding peace, especially in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
00:26:47it is a matter that concerns relations with other
00:26:50countries, especially those with whom we have
00:26:53problems or a disruption in diplomatic
00:26:57work or hostility, etc.
00:27:00matter. As for the issue of civil peace, this relates to
00:27:03internal affairs, I mean, and I do not think that the appointment of a personality
00:27:07like this lady will make a big difference. I mean, there
00:27:11were personalities from from
00:27:14from Suwayda Governorate who had significant
00:27:17weight in the opposition
00:27:21Al-Hijri and with
00:27:24Suwayda, regardless of it being illegitimate. However,
00:27:29the state and they have relations there, and it was possible to benefit from
00:27:32their appointment. I mean, I do not want to give a personal opinion about Ms. Maraina
00:27:36because I do not know other things related
00:27:40to her diplomatic ability or what she wants to give
00:27:43or what she has to give in terms of advice. I only know
00:27:46that she does not have long or even
00:27:50short experience in the field. I mean, the step, the step itself, I mean,
00:27:53the creation of this position in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, does it not reflect an awareness
00:27:57and understanding of the seriousness of the situation in
00:28:01I mean, specifically after the repetition and continuation
00:28:05of daily Israeli violations, after what also happened
00:28:07with Jordan. Today, there is talk
00:28:11that there is a real Israeli threat to the Syrian
00:28:15south. There is talk about maps, and therefore, does this not reflect
00:28:18an awareness from
00:28:21of the seriousness of the situation, and therefore this position was created,
00:28:26who also appears to have good relations with
00:28:29so her resume says. My
00:28:33dear sister, the situation regarding Israel
00:28:37and its plans requires much more work than
00:28:40just appointing a peace advisor. I mean,
00:28:43there is much more work than
00:28:48of times. I mean, this appointment, as Dr. Ahmed said,
00:28:52may be for the sake of appeasement or so on, but for it to have
00:28:55a significant professional impact, I doubt that. I don't want to
00:28:59give a personal opinion about this work, but I doubt
00:29:03that. Because when a matter like this is presented to
00:29:06me, I look into the background of who was appointed as an advisor.
00:29:12field or not? Sufficient experience, of course, I don't mean
00:29:15hierarchy. I don't mean that he must be an ambassador. I talked about what
00:29:19was. You are insistent on your opinion that she has no experience. Well,
00:29:23in conclusion, I want to allow for a final
00:29:26comment from Dr. Ahmed. Please, Dr.
00:29:29Ahmed,
00:29:32our dear sister,
00:29:34Mr. Bassam's proposal, and I don't deny his merit
00:29:37and his role in the Syrian revolution and his
00:29:40good history, is a different
00:29:44matter. I want to say, well, if we brought a consultant from
00:29:48Al-Hijri group and from outside
00:29:50the ministry, wouldn't this
00:29:54contradict what he was proposing that the consultant
00:29:57should be hierarchical and should
00:30:00progress in the ministry until
00:30:11you keep repeating the word "hierarchical." I didn't say it. I only said
00:30:14that
00:30:17I meant the progression of an employee, a progressive
00:30:20employee from the beginning of his entry into the ministry
00:30:22until this proposal that you
00:30:26adopt. Please, Dr. Ahmed, wait
00:30:29a moment. What I want to reach is that the word
00:30:33"consultant" doesn't necessarily mean
00:30:36an administrative position or a purely advisory position
00:30:39in the absolute sense, but rather it is a position
00:30:43that combines between
00:30:45kinship ties and
00:30:49affection among the components of the Syrian
00:30:53people, also in terms of resolving
00:30:56difficult existing problems.