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00:00:43was going to
00:01:30Why is that? President Trump on Thursday, when
00:01:34he returned from a short trip to South Carolina, he was asked if he had
00:01:38suspended campaign events over the weekend due to fatigue or health,
00:01:42and he ended up insulting the journalist who asked
00:01:45the question. Welcome to this edition of Clash of Opinions, the last one before
00:01:49the November 3rd midterm elections in the United States, that's the topic for the next
00:01:53hour. I'm going to introduce our guests. For that, here
00:01:56in Washington we are joined by María Teresa Cardona, a Democratic strategist, and
00:02:00Art Stopiñan, a conservative strategist.
00:02:03Also from Virginia, we have Rocío Vélez, and
00:02:08Senate, in joining us from Bogotá, Tatiana Dangón. During
00:02:10these 60 minutes of the program, we will be talking about what
00:02:14is left for the final stretch, what's coming next
00:02:18Tuesday. I'm going to start with Rocío Vélez in Virginia.
00:02:21Rocío, the expectation is that there will be greater participation, the
00:02:25polls continue to favor Democrats and they favor them in contests
00:02:28where, until a few weeks ago, their
00:02:32moment the Republican option was not seen. Some speak of a Democratic
00:02:35society, sweep. How do you see the scenario?
00:02:38Senate, in Well, we have to be a little cautious with this talk of sweeps,
00:02:42because we've heard it before. Polls usually don't
00:02:46tend to reflect how the
00:02:49Republican vote almost always comes out, right, on election
00:02:53day. Uh, yes, I'm
00:02:56a bit, right, in the past few days everyone was talking...
00:03:00about how the atmosphere was and the tense and somewhat
00:03:03nebulous atmosphere, and trying not
00:03:08Senate, in to be optimistic, and I think that in reality there could be any kind of surprise, right, as
00:03:12always in these next days, what's left are several
00:03:16days and that turnout, right, that
00:03:19getting out to vote is very
00:03:21Democratic socialist, important. In part, I think that the Republican vote, which is
00:03:25mostly ages
00:03:27country, left at 9:30 AM from the Angel of Independence. 50+, uh, uh, if they come out that day and as it
00:03:31is more or less reflected in the polls, also the vote of 18
00:03:34to 29-year-olds, right, young people, uh, is, I think,
00:03:38a little bit more inflated, it's reflected as 15% voting
00:03:42are, uh, what early voting, and I think it's more like 5 to 6%. If that
00:03:46holds, in any case,
00:03:48giving it so far what I think there will be some surprises, like the inverse. For
00:03:50example, it could be that Maine and Michigan, everyone projects them
00:03:54one way and they turn out another. Kansas and Iowa. Uh,
00:03:58I also think that the president will still appear in these
00:04:02places, uh, and I have to, I have to point out,
00:04:05everything with everything I can think of about Donald Trump, uh,
00:04:09I have to really highlight that he has been a president who has
00:04:13gone out to get his people, his
00:04:16comes, Lorenzo was followers, uh, and wow, the energy, because being until 1 AM at these rallies and
00:04:19these things, well, we'll see if then on Tuesday, November
00:04:23the most violent, uh, and what 3rd, all that paid off. Uh,
00:04:26Tatiana, something catches my attention. The president has had a very
00:04:30intense tour, he travels, returns to the White House during the day, this
00:04:34Friday, he travels and stays for the weekend in
00:04:37Mar-a-Lago, uh, but he is going to states he won easily in
00:04:41the last election to seek
00:04:44support. What how do you read that strategy at this moment and how do you see the
00:04:47scenario for Tuesday?
00:04:49Of course, Trump is really realizing that these elections are a
00:04:53referendum on his government.
00:04:56Uh, really, what we have here is that
00:05:00it's a government with very low approval,
00:05:03much lower than other US presidents have had
00:05:06before midterm elections.
00:05:10We'll see that the only one who had such low
00:05:14popularity as president before the midterm elections was
00:05:18Harry Truman in 1946.
00:05:21And something very similar could have happened with Bush in the 2006
00:05:25elections. But what we see is that Trump is trying
00:05:28to show himself as a figure who is taking a lot of action within
00:05:32these elections, but that the decisions he has made,
00:05:36even those that sought to favor the Republican party's vote, have had
00:05:40no impact, at least that's what can be seen in the polls.
00:05:43Decisions such as comparing himself to Putin
00:05:47against the very sanctions he signed, or
00:05:49announcements like the one he made at the rally in Texas where he
00:05:53announced that Venezuela
00:05:56give a million barrels to the United
00:05:59States, which is also not true because it's not a gift,
00:06:03but all these announcements have not favored the Republican party because
00:06:07the central axis of this debate is the cost of living, and that
00:06:10cost of living, which is very high right now due to
00:06:14gasoline, due to rents, the market, etc., is
00:06:18being greatly affected by inflation, by tariffs and by other policies
00:06:22that the Trump administration has adopted. Only 29% of
00:06:25Americans approve of the handling of the
00:06:28cost of living under this administration, and I'll close with this: I agree
00:06:32with Rocío that in any case, polls
00:06:36tend not to be favorable for Republicans
00:06:39or for Trump. To underestimate them in a certain way, but the reality
00:06:43is that if you look at the history of polls, when it comes to midterm
00:06:47elections, they are much closer to reality than, for example,
00:06:50polls in presidential elections. So in
00:06:54any case, Democrats cannot be overconfident, Trump is making an
00:06:57effort, but it is an effort that seems not to really favor the results
00:07:01of these elections, and
00:07:04surely there will
00:07:10elections. President Trump has a particularity,
00:07:14which is that he says what he thinks,
00:07:18whether it's true or not. But in one of his speeches
00:07:21he said that his advisors had asked him not to mention it because it
00:07:24wasn't good for him, because people were upset about the cost of living, but that
00:07:28a lot of money was coming in from the sale of oil. This Friday it came out that oil
00:07:31companies have made additional profits of about
00:07:3567 million dollars, and the companies themselves
00:07:38admit it. Uh, people are seeing it and feeling
00:07:42it. How do you see the
00:07:45Party arrives at these elections and how do you see the moment President
00:07:48Trump arrives?
00:07:54historical convention is that the party that
00:07:57is in power in the White House
00:08:01loses a majority in Congress.
00:08:04That has been the historical convention,
00:08:07but this year, uh, one
00:08:10feels here in the United States something different, partly
00:08:13due to the efforts of President Trump,
00:08:16uh, daily we see him, as you well mentioned, with
00:08:20all these rallies around the
00:08:23United States, and we see the motivation of the
00:08:27Republicans in the sense that they do not
00:08:31want to support the
00:08:34communist, Islamist agenda,
00:08:37uh, that is the main concern. If
00:08:40that agenda of the socialist Democrats
00:08:43were not there, well, I think that the Democrats would have
00:08:47easily taken a majority,
00:08:50perhaps they will take a majority in the House of
00:08:53Representatives, a majority of two to
00:08:57five seats, but that
00:09:00new, that new
00:09:03Democratic socialist agenda,
00:09:07uh, particularly, as Rocío said, people of the third
00:09:10age, those of the... from 50 onwards who are
00:09:14voting in much higher numbers than in other midterm
00:09:18elections, will inject a type
00:09:21of energy that has not
00:09:25been seen in the past, so no one really
00:09:28knows, many of the seats in the House of Congress are
00:09:32very close, but I think that that agenda of the
00:09:35Democrats will not favor the Democrats
00:09:39because the American people will reject that
00:09:43socialist agenda of the Democrats.
00:09:52the Democrats arrive at these elections?
00:09:55We arrive, I think,
00:09:58with a quite positive outlook.
00:10:02Now, I also say that we should be cautious because we won't
00:10:05know the result until Tuesday, but if you
00:10:09look at the polls, the polls are...
00:10:12uh, a story of trends. The trends
00:10:15so far are favoring and continue
00:10:18to favor the Democrats.
00:10:21In fact, uh, uh, uh, last week, uh,
00:10:25the Cook Political Report, which measures the
00:10:29seats depending on who
00:10:32is winning, who voters favor
00:10:35at that moment, and they put
00:10:3812 seats favoring Democrats
00:10:42that historically favored Republicans.
00:10:44That has been the trend throughout
00:10:48this year of this election.
00:10:52Democrats have won,
00:10:55Republicans have lost, and I want to say
00:10:59something about President Trump's trips. I don't blame the White House for
00:11:02saying, "Oh, we can't put Trump
00:11:06in the states anymore," because Juan Carlos, every
00:11:09time Trump has visited these states
00:11:13in the last two weeks, the
00:11:16Democrat, the candidate, the Democratic
00:11:20candidate, has expanded
00:11:22his lead. In
00:11:26Michigan, Donald Trump went and Abdul El
00:11:29Sayed, according to our own CNN poll,
00:11:33now has a six-point lead. In
00:11:37Texas, Trump went,
00:11:39Italarico, a five-six-point
00:11:43lead. In South Carolina, who
00:11:47would have thought we were talking about a Senate
00:11:50seat in South Carolina, Trump
00:11:53visited and now they are tied
00:11:56in South Carolina. In Kansas, Trump
00:12:00went, and now the Democrat Adamilton has
00:12:04the advantage, so I hope Trump
00:12:08continues to visit all these states from today until
00:12:11Tuesday, because that has benefited us Democrats,
00:12:15and why? Because he says the same thing my
00:12:19friend Art said, that if the socialists, that if the
00:12:22communists, that's a lie, my people. And
00:12:25voters know it, and furthermore, it hurts the
00:12:29Republicans because they are not talking about solutions
00:12:33living, the war in
00:12:36Iran that no one wants, no one needed, to the
00:12:40tariffs that no one supports, to the
00:12:42cruel and massive deportations that our
00:12:46community hates, and why aren't they talking about that, Juan
00:12:49Carlos? Because they are not capable, because they don't have
00:12:53solutions, and that's why they...
00:13:04in the next block, in the next block we continue because I have to go to the break in this
00:13:08edition of Clash of Opinions prior to the midterm
00:13:11elections.
00:13:15The need to emigrate knows no age, many
00:13:19claim they want to reach Mexico City, but others seek
00:13:22to go further north.
00:13:27The Mexican army's anti-drone battalion consists of
00:13:30these types of elements of inhibitors to bring down drones
00:13:34that have become a threat. Authorities
00:13:37in Chiapas have detected a cattle smuggling
00:13:40point. This is one of the illegal crossing
00:13:44points for cattle going from Central America to
00:13:47Mexico. Thousands of demonstrators, workers of this
00:13:52I am in the municipality of
00:13:55Teuchitlán in the Mexican state of Jalisco, here
00:13:58the discovery was macabre by collectives of people
00:14:02searching for disappeared persons. What
00:14:04made you come here with the suspicion that your son could be on this
00:14:08ranch?
00:14:10To understand the world
00:14:17you need to seek the truth. Let's return to
00:14:20the era when we had to be much more human. That's
00:14:23why we follow the facts wherever they lead us, no
00:14:27matter how far we have to go, from the inside
00:14:30story, there are new statements from President Donald
00:14:34Trump, to an external perspective, we delve into
00:14:37the data, ready for what
00:14:41shot by an immigration agent, we face
00:14:44the world, is it legal for a 3-year-old to appear
00:14:47alone before a judge? Find joy in new perspectives
00:14:51and new horizons. Every day, no matter
00:14:55where life takes you,
00:14:58we follow what matters to you,
00:15:01we forge a path to truth and understanding of the world.
00:15:05I have something I really enjoy about this sport.
00:16:42Rocío highlighted it, Trump's energy, an 80-year-old
00:16:45man to travel across the United States, hold campaign events, do
00:16:49interviews, return to the White House, in the middle
00:16:52of this contest. And I'm going to start this segment with Maria. Maria,
00:16:56I remember that Biden paid the price for the fact
00:17:00that although the economic figures were positive, people didn't
00:17:03feel it, and one of the criticisms that was made to both the White House
00:17:07and the Democrats is that they didn't know how to talk to people. But Trump is now in the
00:17:11same situation, because one sees the economy grew 3.4%,
00:17:15more than anticipated, although inflation is high, the markets are behaving
00:17:19favorably, but people don't feel it and the government hasn't
00:17:22known how to talk to them. Is Trump now experiencing what Biden experienced?
00:17:26Exactly, Juan Carlos, and it seems that my friends
00:17:29in the Republican Party didn't learn from that
00:17:33lesson that happened to Biden, the Democrats did
00:17:36learn. Because what they are doing, the candidates across
00:17:40the country in the House of
00:17:43Representatives, in the the
00:17:47seats for the governorship and in the legislatures
00:17:51are talking exactly about the cost of living,
00:17:55uh, rent, uh,
00:17:58mortgage, the fact that Americans
00:18:01can no longer even if that lesson that happened to
00:18:04Biden, the Democrats did learn.
00:18:07Because what they are doing, the candidates across
00:18:10the country in the House of
00:18:13Representatives, in the the
00:18:17seats for the governorship and in the legislatures
00:18:21are talking exactly about the
00:18:24cost of living, uh, rent, uh,
00:18:28mortgage, the fact that Americans
00:18:31can no longer even if that lesson that happened to
00:18:34Biden, the Democrats did learn. Because what they are
00:18:38doing, the candidates across the country
00:18:41in the House of Representatives, in the
00:18:46the seats for the
00:18:49governorship and in the legislatures are talking
00:18:52exactly about the cost of living,
00:18:55uh, rent, in the
00:18:58mortgage, the fact that Americans
00:19:01can no longer even fill their own gas
00:19:05tanks because it's so expensive to go to work. Our
00:19:08community is talking about criminality and the brutality
00:19:12of ICE that is terrorizing our
00:19:15communities. Uh, Latino businesses
00:19:20is registering in the minds of voters, and that's why they are
00:19:26we see, uh, in the polls and also in the
00:19:29early voting that has been overwhelmingly
00:19:32high and with an advantage for the
00:19:34Democrats, that's why you're seeing it. Because Democrats
00:19:38are talking about those solutions and are
00:19:41highlighting the fact that the president and the
00:19:44Republican Party have betrayed the American
00:19:48people and the Latino voter specifically because they
00:19:51promised to lower the cost of living, lower
00:19:55inflation, uh, deport only criminals and
00:20:01they have done is exactly the opposite
00:20:04and they will pay at the polls. But I saw
00:20:07that you are saying that they are not entering into force, that they want to pass
00:20:11the bill to whoever they see as responsible for what they face when they go to
00:20:14fill up their gas tank, when they go to the market. Of course, here
00:20:18the reality is that there is a responsibility, it's not just a matter
00:20:22of perception about how the economy is doing and one reality is that the cost of
00:20:26living has gone up, it has gone up due to a tariff
00:20:29policy that has increased costs for many people and
00:20:32merchants in the United States, it has also gone up due to a war
00:20:36with Iran in which Americans also
00:20:39do not approve and which has increased the effect on gasoline,
00:20:43diesel, etc., and this is the reality that although
00:20:46the matter seems to be one of perception,
00:20:50they do not approve and it has increased the effect on gasoline, diesel,
00:20:53etc., and this is the reality, that although
00:20:56the matter seems to be one of perception, well, the
00:21:00costs have increased due to a series of policies and
00:21:04regulations of the Trump government. What else
00:21:07is happening is that the Republican discourse
00:21:10that claimed to be against a woke agenda, that claimed to be against
00:21:14a socialist agenda, no longer has as much weight as it did
00:21:18a few years ago.
00:21:28And I believe there are two elections that will be decisive to see how things are, because through
00:21:32these speeches, uh, that
00:21:35focus more on social aspects and even national
00:21:38aspects regarding certain candidates with, of course,
00:21:42liberal stances but who are more focused on
00:21:45responding with political messages to those
00:21:48concerns of citizens.
00:21:50Ah, here the issue is, for example, Atalarico, not only did Vice President
00:21:54Vance question and others have questioned his masculinity as
00:21:57if a gay candidate,
00:22:00even if openly so, could not reach
00:22:03the seat, or question him as a candidate because they made up that he did not
00:22:07eat meat, and that apparently disqualifies someone from being
00:22:11a senator, but don't you see that there is a lack
00:22:14of connection between the message from Republicans and the president and
00:22:18the reality people live, because the president tells people everything is fine and people
00:22:22say, even if they sympathize with him, they see that not everything is fine for
00:22:25them? Look, Juan Carlos, the problem is that the
00:22:28communication of the Republican party on how to
00:22:32improve the economy is the most important thing, the factories
00:22:35that are being built in this country, if you are an electrician, if
00:22:39you are a welder, if you are a plumber, you have
00:22:43a lot of work, you have more work than time,
00:22:46uh, why is that? Because of foreign investments.
00:22:5021 trillion dollars, uh, to create
00:22:53new factories that President Trump and the Republican
00:22:57administration are bringing back to our country
00:23:00and manufacturing from countries like Korea, Japan,
00:23:04uh, other countries, uh, around the
00:23:06world that are investing again, but that
00:23:10takes more than 2 years, that's why President Trump and the
00:23:13Republicans have asked the American people to give them
00:23:17another 2 years so that they can see those
00:23:20improvements in the economy. It takes time
00:23:24because it's not immediate, we also saw in the
00:23:27previous administration of President Biden when he stopped
00:23:31the flow of oil from Canada through the Canada
00:23:34gas pipeline, uh,
00:23:37then the lack of licenses for the
00:23:41oil companies to be able to
00:23:44explore here in the United States, all that takes its time,
00:23:48now President Trump has launched an initiative for
00:23:52more oil refineries here in the United States
00:23:55and all these different economic
00:23:58initiatives to improve the economy take their time.
00:24:02It is also important to communicate to the American
00:24:05people, the reality is that candidates
00:24:08like Talorico in Texas and
00:24:12Muhammad Al-Said in Michigan
00:24:14are people who are not
00:24:17uh have a policy
00:24:21that is different from the constituents of those
00:24:23states. For example, in Michigan, African Americans,
00:24:26African Americans and Jews, he is anti-Jewish, neither
00:24:30Jews nor African Americans are supporting him, Maria, and you know
00:24:33it well, because he is anti-Jewish and
00:24:37in Texas he does not have the
00:24:40sentiment of Texans
00:24:43who are more conservative, Mr.'s
00:24:46stance. That means they won't vote for
00:24:50him. Let's go to the break and we'll be right back.
00:24:53Yes, yes, it's clear,
00:25:02and it's very good that you're back, you've said it at the beginning of the program, saying, well,
00:25:06assuming that this transition
00:25:10happens because there are a series of questions that you've explained very
00:25:13well, so that's to say, well, maybe this isn't
00:25:17as immediate as we think.
00:25:20Secondly, the point of transparency, of maintaining
00:25:23transparency, which, well, Bern
00:25:26got us dancing, he's been tremendously a
00:25:29positive asset and a great asset to the institution, and then
00:25:33fundamentally the structure of
00:25:36a strong Fed
00:25:40with that complexity it currently has
00:25:44of being regional, it's a strength, it's a
00:25:47strength.
00:26:26Every night there is the possibility of a
00:26:29bombing without filters. Our young people
00:26:33should not be treated that way anywhere.
00:26:36Here the question is: is there freedom? I believe in the country, in
00:26:39Spain, it is heard, this type of phenomenon is not
00:26:43that they are the generators of change, they are the expression of a change, and it is
00:26:47debated, its foreign policy will be like this, lukewarm, without
00:26:50taking positions, conclusions with Fernando del Rincón, Monday
00:26:54to Friday on CNN,
00:26:57live, from Mexico
00:26:59City,
00:27:01a story. It can change everything, a look at the
00:27:05reconstruction efforts of a city and the hope of a people
00:27:08determined to rise up, revolution very quickly and we never
00:27:12thought it would become a Category 5 and to understand what
00:27:16is happening, let's go with my colleague Ione Molinares to
00:27:19Washington,
00:27:21the explosion, we can see the dimension it had to take away the entire
00:27:25facade, we listen to the protagonists,
00:27:29they made fun of us as mothers and fathers of the...
00:27:3223 where she lived a bomb fell, we are about to
00:27:36board this Mexican air force plane to
00:27:39Romania to have a complete vision. We are
00:27:42here as migrants to progress and make this country grow. There are
00:27:46great stories to learn and many perspectives to
00:27:49analyze. Perspectives with Mario González,
00:27:53Monday to Friday on
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00:28:58The conversation continues, elections in the United States, the
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